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Related post feature missing...why? (32 posts)

  1. france1972
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hello and a big greeting to the author of this plugin.
    I have been using the plugin for some year now and one of my most favorite features is the "related post" one.

    Might I ask you the author why he decided to remove it in the new version and if there is any hope to convice him to keep it?

    thanks.

  2. José Luís
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Same here! As far as I can see the feature I'll miss the most is "related post".

    Why will it be removed?

    Is there any hope it won't?

    What plugin do you know that offers these feature pack or at leas this feature?

  3. wp-fan
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Same with me. I would really the "related posts" feature. This is one of the main reasons why I use it, really.

    Please keep this feature in future versions!

    Yours

    Thomas

  4. shirley2011
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I think it was a huge mistake to remove the features. It is what made this a great plug in...NOw I must find another one. I really wish the developer had left it as it was.

  5. kndy71
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Have you guys tried this?

    http://fairyfish.net/2007/09/12/wordpress-23-related-posts-plugin/

    It works for me for "related Posts".

  6. kndy71
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oops..just realized it's in Chinese but it does work... do a search for WordPress Related Posts version 1.2

  7. shirley2011
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @kindy71 ..Thanks for the heads up...will check it out

  8. france1972
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yes, let's hope to convice the author of this excellent plugin to keep the "Related posts" feature. Why should we use a Related Posts plugin (which will also burden the database, by the way) when everything could be easily handed within Simple tags? By the way, I have also sent an email to his address, I will let you know when and if I will get a reply. In the meanwhile you should also send him an email to let him know about your feeling.
    Cheers! :)

  9. alternateroute
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I will add my voice to the many requesting that related posts stays in the plugin. I use WordPress to house details on projects and I use the related posts feature to link people to the details of similar projects. I think it is a wonderful feature. Please don't remove it.

  10. daburna
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Please keep the "Related posts" feature!!! Otherwise I will not update.

  11. José Luís
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I decided to test this new version and started using Similar Posts plugin. It really works very nice and overcomes this feature removal...

    On the other hand, I'm missing Click Tags and Manage Tags features. AFAIK, WP default tag edition does not support multiple renaming...

  12. gregma
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    ...another one missing the "related posts"!

  13. slobizman
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    The removal of the various features on an automatic update was very unprofessional. I didn't even have time to find a replacement for the features, just realized they are missing.

    You should know I choose using Simple Tags' related tags feature over the other related posts plugins because it is the least of a performance hog by far. The "Related Posts" plugin really is problematic in the number of database queries it does. If I remember correctly, it added about 500 MySQL queries per page display.

    You should have just created a new plugin and kept this as it was.

    Anyone know how I can get the previous version back on?

  14. daburna
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

  15. Amaury Balmer
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    I react with the changes on the plugin.

    1. I think it's not at all professional to update a plugin without check the changelog. It's written to multiple times as features are deleted.

    2. If features are removed, is that they are more efficient and responsive. When Simple Tags has been created in 2007/2008, there was no valid alternative to related posts.

    3. I think that wanting to include too much functionality into a plugin is a bad thing. This complicates the development generates more bugs and slows the rythmn of releases.

    I do think I have kept the template functions to reduce errors template, however there is the function function_exists() to call functions in the community plugins.

    I will work to restore the page "Manage tags", but I'm not going to restore the related posts or related tags.
    I'll just add empty functions to avoid error messages.

    There are plugins that do very well what you do: Similar Posts, YARP
    And there are also manual solutions with query_posts().

    I recall that this plugin is written in my spare time, since the introduction of the extend/plugins, I received no donation on this plugin. Made donations, and I will devote more time to restore, develop and evolve the plugin.

  16. pippocl
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yes Amaury, you're right.

    But tag page doesn't work and the tags doesn't appear in my theme..

    In future do you want correct this bugs?

  17. daburna
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Amaury:

    1. You are right.
    2. I got used to this functions at your great plugin. So I miss it.
    3. I like your work. And as a plugin developer I know that nobody will donate money for our work. What do you think about using Flattr to get donations? I think that is a comfortable way to get donations.

  18. thebuckmaker
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    This update is a bad, bad joke. it broke my blog for the whole weekend, as i didn't notice at first what was happening as I use caching. all pages printed an error and loading broke at 50% of page load. this cost me a lot of money and may even harm my search ranking. now that I've read your answers here, I'll deinstall your plugin. Really, really bad.

  19. wp-fan
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Amaury,

    I would like to thank you for creating this free open source software. It must be time consuming, I believe. I think wordpress is so attractive as it is because of enthusiasts like you. So again, thank you very much.

    I was one of the people above in this thread wishing the related posts feature back. I have found a very good and even more configurable alternative in YARP. YARP does not show related posts on pages by default, but it is possible to tweak the code (exchange one word, very easy to do, even without any knowledge of programming). Description is here: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-yet-another-related-posts-plugin-yarpp-display-on-pages-is_single-and-is_singular?replies=4

    yours, Thomas.

  20. arvincastro
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    A bad decision indeed. You should have opted to create a Simple Tag Lite version instead of ruining the experience for all the users of your plugin.

    1. Release notes are not included in the update page for WP plugins. Features normally are not deleted right away, there's the term deprecation. I know you know how many users have downloaded this plugin, right?

    And c'mon, we are end-users. You know what end-users do.

    2. Simple Tags Lite. With a Related Post drop-in plugin/extension.

    3. Please consider the community.

    For others using this plugin, stick with version 1.8 then edit the plugin file to indicate version 999 so that autoupdate will ignore it.

  21. slobizman
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Where can I get 1.8 so I can downgrade?

    To all, if you run an active site with lots of posts and tags, DO NOT use YARP. It will crash your system. Don't believe it? Run a plugin that displays the database queries on each page and you will see. I went from around 500 avg queries per page to around 50 when I switched to Simple Tags related posts feature.

  22. wendyvee
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I downgraded to 1.8 and experienced even MORE problems.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for alternative plug-ins for tagging?

  23. Amaury Balmer
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Given the large demand of people wanting to continue using the related posts and the advanced manage tags, i restored the 2 features.

    The reintegration of these 2 features and bug fixes have taken me more than a day's work and of course a Saturday.

    Thank you in advance to those who make a donation by clicking the donate buton on the page of extend or in the settings page.

    For bugs and evolutions thank you for passing via the redmine.

  24. wendyvee
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    THANK YOU, Amaury!!!
    You don't know how happy you have made me :) !!

    I'm waiting for a deposit to my PayPal account from an Ebay sale and then a donation will be on its way to you.

  25. alternateroute
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thanks Amaury, I appreciate you restoring the related posts feature. Over time I will probably migrate to another related tags plugin, as you suggest but this makes it easy in the short term. I just donated to the plugin.

  26. pippocl
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Amaury really good man, thank youfor your work (i don't use this 2 features but i use simple tags)

  27. france1972
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Amaury: a big, big thanks to the developer of this plugin. I would also like to apologize if I started this thread that causes some "irriverent" and unpolite comments to you and your work. Like you, I spend a lot of time helping people with my blog (that is 5 years old) and I know only too well how few people, if any, are willing to make a donation. I will make a donation during the next couple of hours.

    Thanks again

  28. france1972
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I just made my donation. My ID paypal donation numer is: 3N758447YJ576315Y

    Thanks again

  29. Amaury Balmer
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thank you for you donation ;)

    A next beta will be release with 2 changes :

    • An option for autocompletion, input or textarea
    • Compabitibility with "Use Google Librairies" plugin
  30. shirley2011
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Amaury

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

    I will be making a donation today!

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