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comments populated then dissappeared, and like count not populatin (9 posts)

  1. tlrein
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I set up the plugin and things partially worked. The blog post published to facebook and facebook comments were visible on the WordPress website, but then mysteriously disappeared and then reappeared. However, the facebook 'like' count never populated.

    Questions

    1. Are the comments from facebook persistent (meaning, if I disable the plugin do they stay in wordpress)?
    2. Are the comments stored permanetly in the wordpress database?
    3. Is there a way to integrate the facebook comments directly into the wordpress comments table?

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/simple-facebook-connect/

  2. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    No, no, and not with the current code.

    Facebook's privacy and developer policies prohibit persistently storing other people's data (comments) like that. It's do-able, but I'm trying to adhere to their rules.

    If the comments disappeared, then the server at some point couldn't connect to Facebook to get the comments. This may be improved in future versions.

  3. tlrein
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I just read through the facebook developer policy and didn't see any reference to NOT storing other people's data. It states, "You will delete all data you receive from us concerning a user if the user asks you to do so...".

    It basically states not to sell peoples data.

    Storing facebook comments in wordpress would be a great addition to this plug-in. There's a couple different wordpress plugins that already do this, but SFC seems to be more readily maintained compared to the others.

  4. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    "You may cache data you receive through use of the Facebook API in order to improve your application’s user experience, but you should try to keep the data up to date. This permission does not give you any rights to such data."

    This is essentially what the plugin does. It stores the comments in a transient, not as real comments. The transient is thus refreshed periodically.

    Storing them as "real" comments is much more complicated and weird. If a user deletes their comment on Facebook, then you must somehow notice that and delete the comment locally as well.

  5. tlrein
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    "you should try to keep the data up to date."

    doesn't mean that you have to keep it up to date...

    I still think providing the option to have the comments from facebook into wordpress should be considered...after-all, the facebook users are commenting on the auto published blog post, which is not on facebook...these comments should be considered "real" wordpress comments as the facebook post would not exist without wordpress.

    unfortunately,
    i had to uninstall the plugin as I have a multi user blog and it published the other user's blog post to my facebook wall as if it came from me. Any chance of implementing multi-user blog functionality?

  6. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    after-all, the facebook users are commenting on the auto published blog post, which is not on facebook

    Actually, no, you're wrong there. The auto-published post is a Facebook post. It contains a link to your post on the blog, but it is a separate entity. It is not the same thing as your post on your own site. Likes are not shared across the two, for example (nor is it possible to do so).

    Also, it already does have multi-user blog functionality. But automatic means *automatic*. If you set it to publish to your Profile, then it will publish to your profile, hell or high-water.

    Most people that run multi-user blogs have it publish to some Facebook Page instead of their personal profiles.

  7. tlrein
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    first, let me state that the plugin is nice and works well. It's probably the cleanest and best WP/facebook plugin available on wordpress.org.

    Unfortunately, it doesn't meet my needs as discussed above, and we don't see 'eye to eye' on potential added/additional features.

    It would be beneficial for each wordpress user to be able to post to their own facebook wall (like Wordbooker), and for comments to be part of the WordPress database (like SEO Facebook Comment).

    Adding these features would make simple facebook connect the complete WP/facebook plugin.

  8. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Each author can make posts to their own personal profile, just not automatically as yet. The Publish plugin adds a meta box on the Edit Post screen, where the user can click a button after publishing to publish the post to their Profile.

    Multi-user automatic publishing is technically tricky, since each user would have to opt into it and grant permissions and such. I might make it such that if you have both the Login and Publish modules enabled, this would be possible.

    Fully integrating comments is something that I've considered before, but it raises strange questions. If comments on FB become real comments in WP, then replies to them won't be read properly by the original owners, since they won't know their comments have been pulled and displayed elsewhere. Deleted comments on FB require a sync process, and this might leave orphaned replies (people who write comments on FB actually own them and you technically don't have the right to republish them elsewhere). Things of that nature. It's tricky, in other words.

  9. somtam
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi guys,
    I have a question: how the comments become part of the "content" if nothing go inside the Wp database? does this mean that the comment will have no effects on SEO?
    thanks in advanced.

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