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[resolved] [Plugin: SexyBookmarks] New version says: Get Shareaholic for Firefox (30 posts)

  1. dikkevandale
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    How do I delete the line that says: Get Shareaholic for Firefox below the bookmarks?

    This was not in the previous version... Don't like it.

  2. Dobida
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Same here..

  3. dikkevandale
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I just downgraded to my old version from my backup :)

    Until it's fixed or until I fix it myself I won't update.

  4. Dobida
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Can you upload it for me? :)

  5. zechmann
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    yea, me too... they really should make this an option, even if the default is set on.

  6. michaelhart
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    If this is not set as an option in the next update, it will be removed and replaced on my handful of blogs currently using it.

    This shouldn't have been snuck in to begin with, and lowers my trust for the authors significantly.

    Fyi, previous version can be obtained here:
    http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/sexybookmarks.3.2.8.zip

  7. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    If you switch to "beta" mode, it will go away for now.

    We spend hours and hours working hard developing this plugin for you guys trying to make it perfect and work flawlessly. We even spend hours helping some of you fix your "broken" themes to make plugins work properly. We do all this (at no charge) because we want to help you.

    We've measured sharing activity go up significantly for users using the Firefox, Chrome, etc extensions. This means more of your content gets shared as a result, and more traffic gets driven back to you at no cost. Therefore, we thought adding a link to the browser tools fit very well with our promise to increase sharing activity on your site, and at the end of the day benefits you.

    Is there a middle ground we can reach? Maybe a different way to show that link? We're very open to suggestion. And we actually act on it, and those following us for a while can attest to this!

  8. zechmann
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    In the next update, have the ad switched on by default, but also make it an option to switch it off. I'm sure many would keep it on (due to laziness or not being that concerned by it)

    I wouldn't mind having it on if it was integrated a little better. I'd have to think about how it could be, though.

    And thank you shareaholic, you are all so sexy ;)

  9. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Would love to hear how it could be better integrated! What if we forced it to be grey in color, so it's more in the background.

  10. michaelhart
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    sharaholic, I get that you want to promote your service and that you guys work really hard on this sexy extension. However, this was a move just like Facebook Places... It benefits mainly you (often times distracting our users away from out content; I have looked into the Analytics of this on 3 websites, and your site quickly rose as one of the top exit links, even though it does open in a new window. people have short term memory, best not to distract them.), was very rogue, and didn't (initially) didn't give users a way to opt-out.

    Your reputation is down the drain with me right now, just like Facebook's was (and still is) for all of the poor choices they made.

    This change was NOT documented in the changelog. This change is currently not able to be disabled (without doing what is nothing more than a hack, switching to beta, and I imagine will be fixed eventually anyway). This change was very rogue, and didn't put the users first. It was a strategy move meant only to help you, and sneak it in to unsuspecting web masters who would likely never notice.

    In addition to all of those problems I have with it, the fact that it slides down even when there's only 1 row of icons really frustrates me. I pick a select handful of icons so that it doesn't slide down... That's completely pointless now, thanks to that link... With no other icons coming in (most of which, that I don't want displayed regardless of the sliding), it only serves to draw attention to the Sharaholic link moreso than the sharing icons.

    If you want the PR, put it in the footer, that's fine. If you want the users to install your toolbar or whatever, add a button for it and add it to the "Popular" configuration (or enabled by default). But don't add a distracting link that breaks the overall intended functionality (at least for me) of the content presentation.

    And really, make it an option. You'll still get lots of linkbacks, but the people who you'd otherwise drive off will continue to use it because you gave them the option. The power of choice is a very powerful thing.

    As I said, I don't mind linking to your site or promoting your toolbar, and I have even written about Sharaholic's toolbar and WordPress plugin in the past on my blog. But the distracting nature of the sliding (when the only thing that appears is the link) and the sequence of events that it was added, again, in a very rogue manner, are both not what I expected, and really lowers my respect and trust for you guys (now I'll be doing file comparisons of your updates, undoing anything I disapprove of).

    I do hope you will consider what I have said. I don't know what your goals are, but there has to be a better way than the way you guys actually did it. Remember, put the users first, and NEVER make a change that isn't listed in the changelog, especially like that. It will only drive people crazy when it breaks something, and when they figure out your plugin was the cause after hours of elimination and testing, they'll uninstall the plugin and not think twice about it ever again. User trust is all too important on the Internet; you guys should know that.

  11. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi michaelhart, thanks so much for caring.

    As I mentioned earlier, more users using the browser extension only stand to benefit you -- the publisher. We've seen sharing activity go up significantly for users using the Firefox, Chrome, etc extensions. This means more of *your* content gets shared as a result, and more traffic gets driven back to your site. We viewed this as a net a positive for you guys, and did not have any ulterior motives...

    Regardless, I agree, we should have included something in the changelog, and made it optional. btw, the reason why we did the slide down, was we did not want users to get distracted by a persistent link that is always visible (yuch), and only wanted to show the link if the user actually interacted with SB (showed an interest in sharing). But I see your point about the sliding. It can be better.

    You may have noticed that we've been catching up and making lots of much needed updates/bug fixes to SB recently. We're reacting to feedback and iterating quickly. Expect more releases that incorporate your suggestions very soon.

  12. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    In the next release we plan to add a "no thanks" link alongside the "get shareaholic" text. Clicking the "no thanks" option will make the link 100% disappear completely for the user from then on always. So next time, and every time they come to your blog next, they won't see the "get shareaholic" text at all. This puts the user in total control, and it is their choice.

    What do you think of this guys? Acceptable?

  13. Hatsikidee
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm sorry... but the link will still show. I was so surprised when i saw the link and checked the change logs first. Then i checked whether it was an option, so i could change it's location and when i found out that i could not.... I just deactivated the plugin.

    I recommended this plugin to so many friends persuaded some of them to use it instead of other plugins but the way you just forced this link on us, will make me use the same amount of energy to have them not use it anymore.

    I do see why you try to get more users to use your plugin's but the way you tried to do it will not have that effect. You went about it the wrong way, i'm sorry to say! The suggestion you made is not meeting us half way... not middle road for me. Do things with your end - users in mind, and they will love and SHARE you! Do things just for your own benefit (and don't say otherwise) and they will leave you. And trust me... sometimes bad publicity is just what it is..... bad publicity.

  14. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hatsikidee, we have already said above that we are going to make the entire txt optional like you and other users have suggested. Until we can get that release out, please either use the beta or an earlier version of the plugin (linked above) or just keep it deactivated until a fix is out that meets your approval. It is of course your choice. We are human too. I hope you recognize at some level the effort we put in, and our willingness to actually listen AND react to your feedback.

  15. Hatsikidee
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    In the next release we plan to add a "no thanks" link alongside the "get shareaholic" text. Clicking the "no thanks" option will make the link 100% disappear completely for the user from then on always.

    What we suggest is that in the SB options you can turn it off or leave it on, what ever the user wants. And not for it to be there the first time for the visitor (so he/she may leave yoursite) and it would take an action from that visitor not see it again!
    What you are suggesting is an confrontation and then an opt-out for the visitor, what we are suggesting is an opt-in for the site/blog owners to decide what there visitors are being served!
    There is a small difference here ;) And if you make it an on/off option which is initially "on" i can understand that. That will not be a problem for the majority, i think. But let us decide what we show our visitors. Why not put on top of the SB settings page an small piece of text explaining that people can show their gratitude towards all of your hard work by linking to your page and/or showing the link. It is more user friendly and will be more effective in the long run i suspect.

    I hope you recognize at some level the effort we put in, and our willingness to actually listen AND react to your feedback.

    I do and will wait for the solution you decide on.

  16. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Hatsikidee

    Too many threads... this probably got lost:

    Regardless, I agree, we should have included something in the changelog, and made it optional.

    So it's both :) As a Shareaholic browser plugin user already myself, it is somewhat annoying to see that text over again, and I would personally like to "mute" it anyways even if the publisher didn't turn it off.

    ---

    Totally separately, we're also mulling a Pro version of SB for a small fee that would give you guys a lot more customization and some exclusive features like Share Counts and analytics for whoever wants it and support time. Users that we've asked feedback for so far have been quite receptive to this idea. Not sure if it is worth the trouble or not, but it would certainly help fund some of the development. Would love to get your thoughts on this.

  17. Hatsikidee
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Hatsikidee

    Too many threads... this probably got lost:

    Regardless, I agree, we should have included something in the changelog, and made it optional.

    So it's both :)

    My apology; did miss that. Both would work for me ;)

    I , for one, would be very interested in click counts and extra features like that and would be willing to pay a small fee/contribution.
    Keep us posted.

  18. michaelhart
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    "What do you think of this guys? Acceptable?"

    Entirely acceptable and much preferred, I will be certain to leave it enabled for a few of my blogs. I also am planning to write another post about the Sharaholic toolbar, which might actually get more attention than the link ;)

    Thanks for listening ;) and Thanks for making such a sexy and useful plugin. Hope you guys are having a rockin' 2011 thus far.

  19. michaelhart
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oh, another suggestion...

    Create a widget similar to the "Upgrade the Web" campaign from Spread Firefox. http://www.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/utw

    Except, preferably, when the users already have sharaholic, hide the widget completely. I would be willing to place this on some of my blogs as well. Or let that image be a screenshot mini-tutorial on how to share. This could also be made more dynamic by allowing users to close (with an X button, similar to WP Greet Box http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-greet-box/screenshots/ setting a cookie to keep it out of their way). For tracking and global-opt out, this could all be loaded using javascript from sharaholic's domain, so the close button works on any blog with the widget (since the cookie would be on your domain, not any particular blog).

    Could get really fancy, with screenshots of the social functions of the plugin in every browser.

    Anyway, just an idea ;)

  20. Shyzer
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I've reverted to a previous version until there's the option for me to completely disable the line about getting Shareaholic, be it through purchasing the plugin or having the option in the admin panel. I think the option to let readers disable the notification is fine on tiny site, but horrendous when you try to scale it to a larger site like mine. With tens of thousands of readers, that's easily a few hundred emails I'll get (as I have already) asking what the link is and how do I remove it and yada yada.

    I'm not angry (seriously, get that paid version out and I'll buy it pronto!) but I think the option to leave the readers in charge is horrible and wanted to voice my two cents.

  21. infinityphoto
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    This is Very EASY, follow these steps to remove it:
    1- open your FTP software and connecte to your site.
    2- Go to : wp-content/plugins/sexybookmarks/includes
    3- Open: public.php
    4- Search for: ?src=pub
    5- it should look like this :
    $socials.= '';

    You are Done =)
    Infinity Photo

  22. adaptistration
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    The pro version idea is best and then sell it somewhere like Envato, but at the very least make it a one click buy and make a multisite license for no more than $25. Beyond that, a higher fee would be acceptable for a complete white label version.

  23. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    We're going to likely include this in a "Pro" version in the near future, but for now v.3.2.10 is immediately available for download and it includes a toggle for the promo link!

    We also re-touched the formatting, so now even if you have one row of icons, there will be no animation. This was highly requested. In addition, we also built in a brand new feature! This is exclusive for the Beta - you can now include Facebook and Twitter share count overlays on top of the icons!

    If you haven't already, please try the beta. We plan to switch completely over to it soon.

  24. zechmann
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Love the Twitter/Facebook count addon - though, the look could use a little fine tuning (possibly over the top?)

    As for the promo fiasco, have you ever thought about adding a shareaholic icon into Sexy? Then when the person clicks to share it on shareaholic, it goes to the site and there you could put in a recommendation to install the addon for their browser. Not quite sure if that would work, but the promo link takes away from the cleanly/sleek look that I loved about Sexy Bookmarks and what initially attracted me to it.

  25. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    @zechmann, can you possibly provide us with maybe a mockup of what you're thinking with the counts? support at shareaholic dot com

  26. kimstella
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Link spam, no thanks. Plugin is now removed from all blogs due to the new author's link spam and constant updating.

    One of the updates created a big headache for me and my clients because this so-called "promo link" is on by default.
    It's not nofollow either so it's hurting PageRank and SEO. There are other plugins that offer the same or better functionality without the spam.

    I don't appreciate the bait & switch. This shady new author made SexyBookmarks a bad plugin.

  27. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    @kimstella:

    The "Get..." link can be toggled off now in v.3.2.10. This was released within a few days of v3.2.9 rolling out based on community feedback. You'll find that we actually *listen* and *act* based on what the community wants.

    We will continue to roll out releases as we continue to improve the plugin, fix bugs, and build-in new features like share counters. We see no point in waiting to release bug fixes. It is up to you to determine when to pull updates. We do not expect everyone to upgrade immediately, but do recommend it as all releases generally contain big updates.

    We pride ourselves in actively spending *time* and *effort* on the plugin vs. not supporting our users.

    Of course, the choice is yours!

  28. kimstella
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Your promo link spam is not a feature. Obviously nobody here wants it and you should've gotten rid of it in your last update, but you left it on by default. If you want bloggers to help install your software you should have it as option like good plugins do instead of taking the liberty of installing a link to your commercial software on our blogs.

  29. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    @kimstella the consensus on these forums and via direct email was that folks were OK to leaving it on by default, as long as there is an option to turn off. So that is what we did in 3.2.10.

    Other things were:

    * All changes should be mentioned in the changelog so that you can avoid big headaches like you faced, and we recognize that, and apologize for the inconvenience. Let us know if we can make it up to you somehow!

    * The browser tools are not commercial software. No money is made from them. The browser tools infact help your users share more of your content leading to higher pagerank, traffic, etc for YOU. We've measured sharing activity go up dramatically for those who do download the browser tools.

    But aesthetically, we agree that that link is not for everyone, hence the new option to toggle the link. In hindsight, the toggle should have been there from day 1. But we did correct the situation quickly, at least in our opinion. btw, there was an immediate way to remove the link in 3.2.9 - just switching to "beta" mode. Next time please contact us, we're here to help, and can often suggest very quick fixes or modifications.

    btw, this is free software, and we don't get much out of it other than the satisfaction that others are finding our work useful too. You have no idea how much time we spend fixing broken themes for others just so that the plugin works for our users.

    We will release a "Pro" version soon with special features dedicated to users who want to support the development and special support time. It's really up to you whether you want to use the software. We sure hope you do!

  30. Shareaholic
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Guys, unrelated feature question:

    http://www.shareaholic.com/top/users/

    If we were to create something like this just for your site and made it available in widget form so you could maybe embed it, etc, (a) would you use it? (b) would you be open to paying a small fee for the info to cover our costs?

    It would be a way for you to recognize and put a face on users that are sharing your content. You would also be also see what other content they are sharing on other sites (if the user choses to make that public).

    Let us know!

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