• I have crashed my site two time within the last month. They happened while uninstalling Plugins. My site is up now, again!
    I need someone to answer a few questions for me so I can get out of this plugin-phobia. I can’t think of WordPress without Plugins.

    1-Is there a safety standard for plugins?
    2-Can Plugins be rogue, tricky on purpose?
    3-Is there any other way to measure a plugin’s goodness other than from star reviews?
    4-what is the general advice for a user like me?

    Thanks.

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  • 1) Only use plugins by trusted developers. (you can tell this by the plugin ratings + how many downloads, usually)

    2) most certainly, BE CAREFUL

    3) downloads, ratings, and what people are saying in the forums

    4) just be careful. look at a developers site, does it look spammy? do they have other plugins? are they a contributor to the WordPress core? Mark Jaquith, for example, is a superb developer and core developer, he’s a trusted developer in my books.

    All of @jonathan Dingman’s advice is spot on.

    One thing to consider is that regardless of testing standards, etc. Sometimes a plugin will crash your site.

    The reason being is that with so many themes, plugins, and hosting environemnts around – there is no possible way to test every possible combination of the three.

    Good coding from reputable developers will definitely keep this to a minimum, but every now and then, something may still crash. A plugin may conflict with another plugin, or a theme. Or, especially with shared hosting, your host just might do something goofy which makes a plugin cry.

    Moderator Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)

    (@ipstenu)

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    And if you find a plugin that is doing evil things and it’s from the repository here, please email plugins AT wordpress.org so it can be reviewed πŸ™‚

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    I think there should be other ways of evaluating plugins. Merely going by the number of stars doesn’t seem sufficient.
    If a plugin’s use is not for average users, this should be mentioned clearly and a “warning” must be specified. “Risks” if any, must be specified.
    The two crashes mentioned in my first post occurred when I was dealing with cache related plugins. In the 2nd case all I did, I tried to uninstall it, the way it mentioned within the plugin.

    Now as another poster said earlier, since we use a lot of plugins, incompatibilities can be cause.

    Unfortunately, unless I take a course or two, I wouldn’t learn everything that I need to know. So, I will have a slow site for a while. http://www.bemache.com

    esmi

    (@esmi)

    if a plugin’s use is not for average users

    Define “average user”…

    Moderator Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)

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    πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ Advisor and Activist

    Define “risk.”

    It’s not as easy as you’d think. With all plugins, themes and whatnot, there’s a risk that something unforseen will happen. What you’re really asking is “how likely is it that this will happen?” And that depends on a lot of variables.

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    Average may not be the right term! To me average user is one who doesn’t know exactly all the terms mean. In the cache plugin example, there are a lot of variables to consider and there are a lot of choices to make. An average user of WordPress, doesn’t know the meaning of all of the terms. All he/she may know is that the plugin potentially enhances the site load.
    I consider myself an average user.

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    By “risk” I just had my own predicament in mind, namely, my site crashing.

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    I have to mention one thing, so there wouldn’t be a confusion. I am very thankful that such a platform as WordPress exists. I tried another CMS, Joomla; I couldn’t figure it out as easily. The fact that I have a site is a miracle! Thanks to WordPress! πŸ™‚

    esmi

    (@esmi)

    to me average user is one who doesn’t know exactly all the terms mean.

    What terms? And at what point does the user progress from being average? “Average user” is a highly subjective term that can never be precisely defined to the satisfaction of everyone.

    I consider myself an average user.

    Exactly. For every user, the definition will be different. So it’s simply not possible to come up with a system that would be suitable for such a variable audience – beyond what has already been tried on wordpress.org with “rating” and “does/doesn’t work” functionality (both of which are likely to be heavily skewed towards negative experiences).

    The very best thing you can do is learn how to recover from the problems caused by a bad plugin – namely resetting the plugins folder by FTP or phpMyAdmin. That way, you can be up & running again within minutes 99.9% of the time.

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    esmi: thanks for being ever so available and helpful. I have something to work on. I will look into learning about resetting the plugins folder just in case I have a problem.

    esmi

    (@esmi)

    No problem. And remember that, if you get really stuck, there should always be someone around here that can point you in the right direction. πŸ™‚

    Thread Starter gondishapur

    (@gondishapur)

    I will esmi! and I can’t thank YOU enough. A great part of this for me has been, believe it or not, getting applause from friends and family for having this “great” site. LOL

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