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1. crazytaxi
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Can we get some clarification on versions here? The repository contains both "pixo-point menu" and "multi-level navigation" plugins. I'm using the latter, and my admin panel shows version 2.3.3. I'm not even sure where I downloaded that, I think it was some subpage of author's site. Plugin repository shows latest version 2.1.9, updated 7-22-09. The other plug-in file is still linked from author/plugin homepage, and is still at some 0.6 version. What is the latest version, how does it differ from 2.3.3, and can we get the repository/plug-in pages updated? If I go to the forums, it appears that current work is on the "pixo-point menu" plugin rather than the "multi-level navigation" plugin. Author site also contains warnings about "titanic" bugs in some previous version.... I'm massively confused. Which is the latest plugin and version?

   http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/multi-level-navigation-plugin/

2. Álvaro Degives-Más
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   The difference is that one is practically frozen, while the other is in full development. Don't believe me - read it for yourself.

   The Multi-Level Navigation plugin is, for purposes of using it on a WP install that is kept up-to-date, to be considered increasingly derelict. Anecdotally, and if you're into WordPress plugin paleontology, MLN was a successor to the now defunct Suckerfish WordPress Plugin.

   Keep track of the PixoPoint Menu plugin, which is the plugin that is current, and evolving (with tons on the horizon to the point of being almost entirely rewritten).

   Which brings me to a final point: make a habit of checking out the plugin author's site for information on plugin currency, as not every plugin author necessarily tracks development via the WordPress support forums.

3. ryanhellyer
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Thanks nv1962 :)

   I'll be clearing up this confusion eventually. In fact the reason I stumbled across this topic (I rarely look in here) is because I'm about to write the converter from the Multi-level Navigation plugin to the PixoPoint menu plugin.

   The "titanic bugs" were a reference I made in a forum topic I think in relation to a highly unstable beta version. I wouldn't have said that about any of the stable versions or else they wouldn't be in the repository.

4. ryanhellyer
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Oh, I forgot to add that both versions are the current plugin. They're both being supported at the same time until I can make sure that the PixoPoint Menu plugin doesn't break on some existing Multi-level navigation plugin installations. The PixoPoint menu plugin uses a lot of jQuery in the admin side of things, plus has an editor which tends to break when used with some existing setups. I've been pounding away for the past day trying to work out fixes to prevent these glitches.

   In general the PixoPoint menu plugin is what you should use, but if that causes problems then move back to the Multi-level Navigation plugin.

   Once I have a totally smooth upgrade path working a notice will appear when you upgrade the Multi-level navigation plugin suggesting that you transition to the PixoPoint menu plugin and explaining how to do it (which will be ridiculously easy, just deactivate one and reactivate the other and BAM all of your settings will be transferred).

5. ryanhellyer
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Some more thoughts ...

   There was only supposed to be an overlap of about one month, but it turned out that a lot of users have seriously borked WordPress setups and couldn't handle the way the PixoPoint menu plugin works hence the other one hasn't been discontinued yet.

   The reason for the dual plugins is that the original name of the Multi-level Navigation plugin had become redundant since the PixoPoint menu plugin can easily be used for single-level menus.

6. Meginoz
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   I've tried both of these plugins and am having trouble with both.

   1. The Multi-Level Navigation Plugin worked fine locally, but when I put it on the live site, none of the jQuery effects worked. The files were all in place, and the paths to them appear to be right, but they just don't work.

   2. In searching for an answer I found this thread and thought I should try the Menu Plugin if the other is about to be discontinued. But I have loaded that one up locally and the jQuery effects won't even work locally on this one. From what I can see when I view source, it doesn't seem to be putting the paths to the files into my header

   3. There are inconsistent instructions for installing the Menu Plugin - on the WordPress site plugin page, it says to add "<?php wp_page_menu(); ?>" where you want the menu, but in the Help section on the plugin's admin page in the WP admin area, it says to add "<?php if (function_exists('pixopoint_menu')) {pixopoint_menu();}; ?>"
   Which is it?

   Clarification and/or advice appreciated. I can't believe how difficult I am finding it to put a dropdown menu on my site.

7. Álvaro Degives-Más
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   If you use the PixoPoint Menu plugin, use:
   <?php if (function_exists('pixopoint_menu')) {pixopoint_menu();}; ?>
   It's a good idea to wrap that in a div of its own, e.g.:
   

   <div id="menubar">
           <?php if (function_exists('pixopoint_menu')) {pixopoint_menu();}; ?>
       </div>

   That way you can more easily address additional things about the menu's styling and position.

   Also, given the enormous ecosystem of plugins out there, many different plugin authors have different support methods; in the case of PixoPoint (by Ryan Heller) you'd want to check the forum.

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