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[Plugin: Extreme SEO] Spam (10 posts)

  1. KentUser
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Spam started to appear as 'related posts' at the end of the post...a list of sites, all blatant advertising and unrelated to anything I post about.
    This is unrelated to the Yet Another Related Posts Plugin I use (and which works properly).
    I uninstalled Extreme SEO and this spam disappeared.
    I am therefore forced to conclude that the plugin is designed to produce spam.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/extreme-seo/

  2. dirtybird3g
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    You obviously didn't take the time to read what this plugin does for you. It provides links from other sites within the network on similar subject to your post. The same is being done for your site, your site was getting links on other sites pointing back to your site.

    Yes, we are working on refining the content matching algorithm to make it better and make the links more relevant.

    No, this is not anything like Yet Another Related Posts Plugin. YARP only shows links to your own posts and doesn't build links for you on other sites, and doesn't improve your Google Rank, and doesn't get you more natural traffic.

    I'm glad you felt the need to publicly bash something that you have absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about. Please delete the plugin if you don't want to gain more traffic, gain Google page rank, or give your readers more valuable content.

  3. cartmod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    We have just updated our post matching algorithm to provide exceptional results. All links are VERY pertinent to the subject matter of your post content. Give the plugin a try and see for yourself. The links will show up on your individual post pages under your post content.

  4. erikvlie
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    If the links are that pertinent, then why am I getting a link to a site that lists a Chevy ad print from 1985 on a page that discusses Web-to-Print?

    Or a link to a spammy blog that has a so-called story on Photoshop plugins from a page containing an article on colour management software?

    Or more hilarious: a link to "how to read a music sheet" on a page that has a lengthy story on... InDesign preflighting?

    The answer: NONE FO THESE LINKS ARE PERTINENT, and certainly NOT VERY !!!

  5. popwireless
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Within 15 minutes or so of activation I had links to mostly irrelevant sites, one porn site, and one site that was almost close. The links were all not yet ranked by Google (except 2) with Alexa rankings in the millions. One link was a strange blog about DUI lawyer videos.

    Deactivated. Might try down the road. I don't want my readers forwarded to porn or gambling or to sites that are not relevant to content.

  6. cartmod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    If the links are that pertinent, then why am I getting a link to a site that lists a Chevy ad print from 1985 on a page that discusses Web-to-Print?

    If you take the time to look at the post that you are linking to, you will see that the words most repeated in YOUR posts are also the words most repeated in THEIR post.

    Or a link to a spammy blog that has a so-called story on Photoshop plugins from a page containing an article on colour management software?

    You can't see how color management software is directly related to Photoshop? This is an excellent match as they are both VERY related.

    Or more hilarious: a link to "how to read a music sheet" on a page that has a lengthy story on... InDesign preflighting?

    Does the word "design" occur repeatedly in both posts? I bet it does. This is called a CONTENT match and I bet if you look at both posts, it is a very good content match. It is not a CONTEXT match as context is MUCH harder to match on and you aren't going to get it from anyone, much less for free.

    The answer: NONE FO THESE LINKS ARE PERTINENT, and certainly NOT VERY !!!

    The answer. It is always the least informed that speak the loudest.

    There are many sites that are very happy with the results. If you want someone to build you your own personal Google grade system for free then best of luck with that. We are happy not to have you as a member.

    Within 15 minutes or so of activation I had links to mostly irrelevant sites, one porn site, and one site that was almost close. The links were all not yet ranked by Google (except 2) with Alexa rankings in the millions. One link was a strange blog about DUI lawyer videos.

    Please have a look at the most commonly occurring words in your post (besides words like is, to, him, her, etc.) and then look at the most commonly occurring words in the linked post. You will see the CONTENT match. If you want better matches then you need to write posts that will match well. If your post is about epson printers then make sure the word epson and printers are used repeatedly in your title and content (as they should normally if the article is well written about the subject) and you will only match on posts that rank highly for the terms epson and printers AND contain both words. The algorithm is written well to match the content provided. If the match is bad, analyze your article first before scrutinizing the matching system. This is not meant to come off as offensive, just helpful advise for better matching.

    Deactivated. Might try down the road. I don't want my readers forwarded to porn or gambling or to sites that are not relevant to content.

    We are always refining the filters for unwanted posts like porn and common spam and their occurrences are very low given the number of posts in the index. Be careful not to write your articles with prevalent words that may match porn.

    We use your most commonly used words from your title and content combined with your posts tags if there are posts tags to define your words to match on, this is so that posts about fishing will not match posts about golf. If your fishing posts does link to a post about golf then have a look at both posts and there will be a common denominator that is obvious in both posts and will explain how the match occurred.

  7. MildlyMystified
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I am disabling this plugin after using it for a month. There have been a spate of porn related visits, the links that are established *and visible to me* lead to sites with no PR or post relevance and sometimes they lead to dashboard logins because they reference wp-admin/options.

    Another thing that I dislike is the fact that I have no control over where these supposed links are placed. In my humble opinion, they should not appear ABOVE related posts from my own site. In addition, there is no option to declare the target reference so, coupled with the placement, traffic is being lured away.

    I suppose it is a good idea and I have little doubt that the plugin authors are SEO gurus but I, for one, am going back to good old fashioned link building strategies over which I have control.

  8. cartmod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I am disabling this plugin after using it for a month. There have been a spate of porn related visits

    Porn related visits? What does that mean?

    The links that are established *and visible to me* lead to sites with no PR

    What is the PR of your site?
    The point of the network is that you will link to sites that need your links and you will also get links that you need. If you only link to sites with a PR 5 and only get links from PR 5 sites then there wont be much linking going on and that does not help anybody.

    or post relevance and sometimes they lead to dashboard logins because they reference wp-admin/options.

    Please provide an example? If there is a problem there, we will debug it. As for relevance, we have addressed this many times before, we match based on the content of your post. If the match is bad then you should look at how your post is written. Is it concise about a specific topic? Do the main words of the subject get repeated in the post copy. There are MANY sites using the plugin that get very accurate matches so the algorithm works, please look at the content you are sending us to explain the match quality.

    Another thing that I dislike is the fact that I have no control over where these supposed links are placed.

    Supposed links? What is a supposed link?

    As far as the placement. If we allow the webmaster to control the placement of the links then people will try to hide them using CSS with hidden divs and negative margins or just not display them at all and then they will be getting links but not giving any out. This would not be fair and would allow the plugin to be abused.

    In my humble opinion, they should not appear ABOVE related posts from my own site.

    Then perhaps it would be a solution to have your other related posts plugin provide you with control over the placement of their links.

    In addition, there is no option to declare the target reference so, coupled with the placement, traffic is being lured away.

    Target reference? Are you talking about the link href or the link anchor text? The links are generated with the target='new' attribute so that if a reader of your blog does click a network link, the page is opened in a new browser window and you do not lose your reader.

    I suppose it is a good idea and I have little doubt that the plugin authors are SEO gurus but I, for one, am going back to good old fashioned link building strategies over which I have control.

    While the manual link building method does give you complete control, it is tedious and costly but good luck to you and thanks for trying our plugin.

  9. MildlyMystified
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Porn related visits? What does that mean?

    I noticed referral visits from viagara sites and Spanish sex sites. Not the sort of content that I want MY posts linked to...

    What is the PR of your site?
    The point of the network is that you will link to sites that need your links and you will also get links that you need. If you only link to sites with a PR 5 and only get links from PR 5 sites then there wont be much linking going on and that does not help anybody.

    My site is PR3. NONE of the links I received had PR. I'm glad to help out but I need to know that higher PR links will be linking back, not lower. I also need to know that the links are relative to the overall blog intention, which is not selling viagara or sexy ladies.

    Since the links from your plugin never showed up in my dashboard, I used another statistic tool to review them. I do not have an example of the wp-admin links but I'm sure you know what a wordpress login screen looks like. That was all I could see.

    I'm not of a mind that I should have to re-write my posts to make your plugin work. Maybe you could add an option where the user can seed the plugin with keywords they want to have it use for matches, similar to the way that All in One SEO works.

    The YARRP plugin places related posts right where they should be, which is immediately below my post. The whole idea is to keep them at MY site longer. Your plugin, since posts are related but not at my site, should present content below that.

    Look. You did something I couldn't do and I appreciate that. Your plugin appears to have too many bugs right now. I'll give it a try when more people are saying that it works.

  10. cartmod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I noticed referral visits from viagara sites and Spanish sex sites. Not the sort of content that I want MY posts linked to...

    (1) a referral is is where a visitor came from, why are you saying anything about who you link to based on a referral?
    (2) Why do you think that the visitors that came from a viagara/sex related referrer came from the plugin?

    My site is PR3. NONE of the links I received had PR. I'm glad to help out but I need to know that higher PR links will be linking back, not lower.

    We are going to be offering a plugin extension soon that will allow you to control the PR of inbound/outbound links. The extensions will be modularized so you don't have to buy a "Pro version" of the plugin but rather you buy only the specific plugin extensions that appeal to you since every site is different.

    I also need to know that the links are relative to the overall blog intention, which is not selling viagara or sexy ladies.

    We have filters in place to limit those types of sites in the network and we are always improving on the general network filtering.

    We do not link to/from your posts based on your overall blog theme. Links are delivered on a post page level and they are relative to the post itself, not the overall blog theme.

    There will be available extensions for sale that will allow tighter control over linking restrictions.

    Since the links from your plugin never showed up in my dashboard, I used another statistic tool to review them. I do not have an example of the wp-admin links but I'm sure you know what a wordpress login screen looks like. That was all I could see.

    If you can provide an example of a problem, we will fix it but with such a generic statement, there is little that we can do. Send a screen capture to our support email address.

    I'm not of a mind that I should have to re-write my posts to make your plugin work. Maybe you could add an option where the user can seed the plugin with keywords they want to have it use for matches, similar to the way that All in One SEO works.

    This is a terrible idea (no offense) because it opens the door to people writing about one thing, say viagra, and then seeding the post for a different topic altogther. This is similar to the way the web worked back when search engines used meta keyword tags for matching.

    If we used keywords to define post matching and people were lying to game the system, as they surely would, then a post about iphones would be linking to a post about viagra because the viagra post was seeded for the term iphone.

    This is why the our plugin works the same way that Google does. It analyzes your post content, extracts the main topic from the content, and then matches based on that. This is the best way to keep posts about iphones matching other posts about iphones.

    This model works perfectly on well written blog posts about a specific topic.

    The all-in-one seo plugin allows you to tell it what your posts are about using keywords because you can be trusted not to lie since you are only linking to yourself. Since we provide cross site linking, we do not have the luxury of trusting keywords as spammers would exploit that trust.

    The YARRP plugin places related posts right where they should be, which is immediately below my post. The whole idea is to keep them at MY site longer. Your plugin, since posts are related but not at my site, should present content below that.

    We are going to offer an extension option that allows you to place our output wherever you want so you can place it under YARPP if you want. or anywhere in your layout. This feature is not going to be part of the basic plugin. You will have the option to buy the extension.

    Look. You did something I couldn't do and I appreciate that. Your plugin appears to have too many bugs right now. I'll give it a try when more people are saying that it works.

    Matching on content vs. keywords is not a bug.
    Not having advanced PR filters for free is not a bug.
    Placing network links under the post content vs. under YARPP, for those that have YARPP, is not a bug.

    The plugin does a great deal of SEO for your site for free and you will have the option to buy the extensions if you want more advanced features. We have many happy network members. Perhaps you will be one in the future. If not, no worries and thanks for the suggestions.

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