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Opera and W3 Total Cache (19 posts)

  1. egonomik
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Please check it:

    Before empty cache:
    http://www.egonomik.com/demo/before-empty-cache.jpg

    After empty cache:
    http://www.egonomik.com/demo/after-empty-cache.jpg

    This problem is with Opera, can you fix this?
    Thank you.

  2. thigle
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I have no problem with Opera (v 10.10 + 10.50 alpha).

  3. egonomik
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Users have this problem too.
    (Opera v10.10 Build 1893)

  4. Gravitydk
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    That's odd. I haven't had problems with Opera either.

  5. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    There's not nearly enough information to identify a problem. What compression setting are you using on the page cache settings tab?

  6. egonomik
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Yes fredericktownes you right, there is page cache settings:

    Maximum lifetime of cache objects: 1800 secs
    Garbage collection interval: 1800 secs
    HTTP compression: gzip and deflate (best)

    Don't cache pages for logged in users (checked)
    Cache the home page (checked)
    Cache RSS / Atom feeds (site, post, post comments) (checked)
    Cache URIs with query string variables (blank)

    Rejected user agents:
    bot
    ia_archive
    slurp
    crawl
    spider

    Rejected Cookies:
    (blank)

    Never cache the following pages:
    wp-.*\.php
    index\.php

    Caching exception list:
    wp-comments-popup.php
    wp-links-opml.php
    wp-locations.php

    Specify page headers: (blank)

    Mobile user agents:
    2.0 MMP
    240x320
    ASUS
    AU-MIC
    Alcatel
    Amoi
    Android
    Audiovox
    AvantGo
    BenQ
    Bird
    BlackBerry
    Blazer
    CDM
    Cellphone
    DDIPOCKET
    Danger
    DoCoMo
    Elaine/3.0
    Ericsson
    EudoraWeb
    Fly
    HP.iPAQ
    Haier
    Huawei
    IEMobile
    J-PHONE
    KDDI
    KONKA
    KWC
    KYOCERA/WX310K
    LG
    LG/U990
    Lenovo
    MIDP-2.0
    MMEF20
    MOT-V
    MobilePhone
    Motorola
    NEWGEN
    NetFront
    Newt
    Nintendo Wii
    Nitro
    Nokia
    Novarra
    O2
    Opera Mini
    Opera.Mobi
    PANTECH
    PDXGW
    PG
    PPC
    PT
    Palm
    Panasonic
    Philips
    Playstation Portable
    ProxiNet
    Proxinet
    Qtek
    SCH
    SEC
    SGH
    SHARP-TQ-GX10
    SIE
    SPH
    Sagem
    Samsung
    Sanyo
    Sendo
    Sharp
    Small
    Smartphone
    SoftBank
    SonyEricsson
    Symbian
    Symbian OS
    SymbianOS
    TS21i-10
    Toshiba
    Treo
    UP.Browser
    UP.Link
    UTS
    Vertu
    WILLCOME
    WinWAP
    Windows CE
    Windows.CE
    Xda
    ZTE
    dopod
    hiptop
    htc
    i-mobile
    iPhone
    iPod
    nokia
    portalmmm
    vodafone

    Redirect mobile users to: (blank)

    There is "General Settings"

    Page Caching: Enable/Disk (enchanced)
    Minify Caching: Enable/Disk
    Database Caching: Enable/Disk
    CDN/Type: Enable/Origin Pull (Mirror)

    Is this information enough?
    Thank you.

  7. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Change "HTTP compression" to gzip only and empty cache.

  8. egonomik
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Now i moved my site to another server and problem is solved by itself.
    "only gzip" method is still required?

  9. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Yes, that is recommended. Is it still possible to test the site against the old server? Is it still online? It's important to know if it's a Opera issue or plugin issue or WordPress issue (with deflate handling).

  10. egonomik
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Thank you Frederick, i will do it.

    I want to help you but i'm sorry, old company has terminated my account
    (http://88.255.156.120/~egonomik/)

    Old server spesifications:
    Linux Centos / VPS
    PHP 5.2.10
    2 GB Personal Ram
    2.8 CPU
    cPanel

    New server:
    Linux Shared hosting (no detail)
    PHP 5.2.11
    Ultra320 SCSI, 16GB ECC R. Ram
    Plesk panel

    and no more useful information, details:
    http://www.turhost.com/linux-portal100-hosting.htm

    i hope this information is helpful for you.

  11. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Unfortunately it's not enough information, I'd really have to do some quick tests to see how different flavors of PHP behave. Thanks anyway.

  12. redux_splintered
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi Frederick,

    I've recently come across this issue on a 3rd party site as well and was wondering if it may be related to the very mild browser-sniffing you're doing in lib\W3\PgCache.php and lib\Minify\HTTP\Encoder.php where you seem to lump Opera in with the old IEs? Not had time to test this on a site I control directly, but may be worth a look.

    (full disclosure: I work for Opera as Web Evangelist)

  13. johndavies108
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I, too, have seen this on other sites. All of the affected sites I've seen are running WordPress 2.9.2 with W3 Total Cache/0.8.5.2 on Apache 2.0 or 2.2 (not sure whether it's version-specific). I am using Opera 10.51 on Windows 7. I'd like to know if redux_splintered's idea reveals anything. I don't use WordPress anymore so I don't have the ability to do any testing.

  14. Ryan Aslett
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Just switched bikeportland.org over to using the w3 total cache this weekend. Getting some email from users as well with the same problem:

    Technical Specs from one user:
    Windows XP SP3
    Opera 10.51, Build 3315

    I fired up my opera on my mac, and everything looked kosher. I then installed the latest opera on my vmware xp, and sure enough, its getting deflated content but not deflating it.

    So Im not sure where the issue lies:
    A. opera says it can handle both Gzip and deflate content, but its getting deflate.(shouldnt it get gzip?)
    B. Opera *should* deflate it, but doesnt. Stranger still is when I use opera's built in dev tool (dragonfly) and load the page in 'debug mode' it does deflate it.

    Anyhow, switching to gzip only for http compression fixed this issue for us. Basically anybody on a windows box with the latest version of opera is not going to see your site if you select "gzip and deflate - best". Perhaps it shouldnt say "best" until this is fixed?

    Here is the Raw request headers as reported by opera's dragonfly tool.

    Raw request

    GET / HTTP/1.1
    User-Agent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Presto/2.5.22 Version/10.51
    Host: bikeportland.org
    Accept: text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1
    Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.9
    Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1, utf-8, utf-16, *;q=0.1
    Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip, x-gzip, identity, *;q=0
    Cookie: __utmz=196354239.1271718114.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none); __utma=196354239.472036295.1271718101.1271718101.1271718101.1; __utmc=196354239; __utmb=196354239.1.10.1271718101
    Cookie2: $Version=1
    Cache-Control: no-cache
    Connection: Keep-Alive, TE
    TE: deflate, gzip, chunked, identity, trailers

    Raw response

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:45 GMT
    Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.11
    Last-Modified: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:07:16 GMT
    ETag: "54800d-a3ab-4849f05a1d100"
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Content-Length: 41899
    Cache-Control: max-age=3570, public, must-revalidate, proxy-revalidate
    Expires: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:07:16 GMT
    X-Pingback: http://bikeportland.org/xmlrpc.php
    X-Powered-By: W3 Total Cache/0.8.5.2
    Vary: Accept-Encoding,Cookie
    Pragma: public
    Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
    Connection: Keep-Alive
    Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
    Content-Encoding: deflate
  15. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    The default setting for W3TC is actually gzip and because of this opera anomaly I'm removing deflate from the next release entirely to reduce support inquiries.

  16. johndavies108
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Frederick, thank you for your understanding. Any idea on when the next release will be?

  17. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Not sure.

  18. KadnMedya
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hello fredericktownes;
    I need help. I installed W3TC and I'using default settings. But my site logo does not appear on some pages. What should I do. And Can you check my settings please.

    GENERAL SETTINGS
    Page Caching:enable
    Page Caching Method:Disc(basic)
    Minify:enable
    Minify Caching Method:disc

    Database Caching:enable
    Database Caching Method:disc

    CDN: blank
    Debug: all blank

    Page Cache Settings

    General

    Checked all boxes
    HTTP compression:gzip(good)

    Advanced

    Maximum lifetime of cache objects:3600 seconds
    Garbage collection interval:3600 seconds
    Rejected User Agents:
    bot
    ia_archive
    slurp
    crawl
    spider

    Rejected Cookies: blank
    Never cache the following pages:
    wp-.*\.php
    index\.php

    Caching exception list:
    wp-comments-popup.php
    wp-links-opml.php
    wp-locations.php

    Specify page headers:
    Last-Modified
    Content-Type
    X-Pingback

    Mobile user agents:
    2.0 MMP
    240x320
    ASUS
    AU-MIC
    Alcatel
    Amoi
    Android
    Audiovox
    AvantGo
    BenQ
    Bird
    BlackBerry
    Blazer
    CDM
    Cellphone
    DDIPOCKET
    Danger
    DoCoMo
    Elaine/3.0
    Ericsson
    EudoraWeb
    Fly
    HP.iPAQ
    Haier
    Huawei
    IEMobile
    J-PHONE
    KDDI
    KONKA
    KWC
    KYOCERA/WX310K
    LG
    LG/U990
    Lenovo
    MIDP-2.0
    MMEF20
    MOT-V
    MobilePhone
    Motorola
    NEWGEN
    NetFront
    Newt
    Nintendo Wii
    Nitro
    Nokia
    Novarra
    O2
    Opera Mini
    Opera.Mobi
    PANTECH
    PDXGW
    PG
    PPC
    PT
    Palm
    Panasonic
    Philips
    Playstation Portable
    ProxiNet
    Proxinet
    Qtek
    SCH
    SEC
    SGH
    SHARP-TQ-GX10
    SPH
    Sagem
    Samsung
    Sanyo
    Sendo
    Sharp
    Small
    Smartphone
    SoftBank
    SonyEricsson
    Symbian
    Symbian OS
    SymbianOS
    TS21i-10
    Toshiba
    Treo
    UP.Browser
    UP.Link
    UTS
    Vertu
    WILLCOME
    WinWAP
    Windows CE
    Windows.CE
    Xda
    ZTE
    dopod
    hiptop
    htc
    i-mobile
    iPhone
    iPod
    nokia
    portalmmm
    vodafone

    Minify Settings

    2 boxes checked
    HTTP compression:gzip(good)

    HTML
    boxes blank

    JavaScript

    just enable and default

    Cascading Style Sheets
    just enable and default

    Advanced

    Maximum lifetime of cache objects:86400 sec
    Update external files every:86400 sec
    Garbage collection interval:86400 sec
    Rejected user agents: Blank

    Database Caching Settings
    Advanced

    Maximum lifetime of cache objects:180 sec
    Garbage collection interval:3600sec
    Ignored query stems:gdsr_

    CDN is disabled

    Thank you

  19. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    That isn't helpful. Please submit a bug submission form from the support tab of the plugin.

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