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OMG I feel like the guy in The Hurt Locker trying to pick out a cereal! (27 posts)

  1. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I just migrated from blogger.com and set up a new account with Bluehost. They had the newest version of WordPress that was stable installed online. I now have the site up with dorky basic theme.
    I am trying to pick out a basic minima stretch type of theme that I could change the background color and colors of the fonts and font type. Nothing fancy. This is just going to be a blog. Want it simple and be able to put in some widgets on the right side.
    I go look at the themes and they are so busy and when I type in minima stretch into search it only pulls up one that doesn't look like minima stretch. I am a bit overwhelmed and just want something simple I can make few changes to.
    I feel like the guy who walks into the grocery store in the movie The Hurt Locker and so many choices, it is hard to make a choice. He just wants a simple cereal and I just want a simple stretch minima type theme. Where do I find such a theme easily without having to look througfh 14K themes?

  2. esmi
    Theme Diva & Forum Moderator
    Posted 4 years ago #

    What's a "minima stretch" theme? Try filtering on the number of columns you want for a start.

  3. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Here is what we started at blogger now we are at http://www.secondgradereading.org at bluehost.

    http://secondgradereadingblog.blogspot.com/

  4. jrav001
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    This can easily be manipulated to look like your current theme:
    http://themeclubhouse.digwp.com/

  5. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Is this a free theme? I went to the link but not sure how to go about using it.

  6. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I went to the link but not sure how to go about using it.

    The easiest way to install a theme, (from the WordPress site) is directly from your dashboard. Go to Appearance > Add New Themes > Search for the theme that you want and install from there. OR -

    You'll need to load a theme onto your hard drive, leave it zipped. Use your ftp service (your host should have sent you an email to provide you with the info on how to access your site files through an ftp - files transfer protocol).

    Then you would install the theme through the ftp, and be sure you install it in the correct theme directory:

    wp-content/themes/yourthemehere

    Also, keep in mind that you want to be cautious when choosing a theme to ensure it does not contain malicious codes. Take a look at this thread:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/384389?replies=3
    The sticky thread at the top of this forum section.

  7. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Yes I have been slowly going through the themes and figured it out while waiting for a response. I did try to limit my search but still have many pages to go. I also figure out that I would have to buy a book at themeclubhouse and make all the changes myself no set theme to download from what I can tell. I am just surprised that wp doesn't have your basic stretch minima which is one of the common templetes you can choose from at blogger since so many folks migrate from blogger. I only migrated so I could get a shorter domain name and use bluehost to place ads if I want. With blogger I was up and running that day figuring out all sort of changes. What is great about minima is how it allowed you to do so many changed with it and you didn't really have to figure out the code so much just track it down and past it in the area you wanted it.

  8. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Did you search the theme directory?
    http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/
    Just make sure you select a theme that is suitable for your version of WP

  9. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Forgot to add:

    What is great about minima is how it allowed you to do so many changed with it and you didn't really have to figure out the code so much just track it down and past it in the area you wanted it.

    I'm familiar with what you're saying because I have several Blogger blogs on my own domains, using the minima template customized to my liking. However, you have to keep in mind that Blogger and WordPress are two different animals all-together. Using a Blogger template, you're only having to mess with html, but with WordPress it's php so you will have to apply a different strategy when you want to customize things.

  10. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    When I do look into making changes to the default theme I noticed there is html numbers to change the header color. I also notice there is an editor that appears to be html where changes can be made. I know nothing of php. I just learned how to paste html to make changes at blogger. So is there a good editor that would be the interface like blogger does for changes to the basic theme? I down loaded Gimp yesterday and have PSE 5.0 along with MS office 2007 with Win7 64 bit. Would like to do this simply with minimal expense.

  11. esmi
    Theme Diva & Forum Moderator
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I've never used Blogger, so what kind of customisations are available with this minima template? Perhaps we could narrow down a search of the theme directory.

  12. jrav001
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Working with wordpress isn't going to be the same as blogger, but wordpress does have a built in editor. Go to Appearance - Editor.

    Or, use a simple text editor and ftp your changed files to your server.

    Just remember to keep backups in case you get an unintended result. :-)

    btw - the theme link I posted earlier is indeed free of charge and spam-free - just click the download button.

  13. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Here's the basic minima template he's referring to (but only it's not the 'stretch version'. There's also a 'minima lefty stretch' version of this:

    http://preview-minima-blue.blogspot.com/?hl=en

    This link shows the newest customizations available for their templates:
    http://bloggerindraft.blogspot.com/2010/03/blogger-template-designer.html

  14. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Well first you choose the templete and stretch minima allows the header to be very wide on top. It also allows two columns. Basically you just go into dashboard, layout, colors and fonts and then click for example background color, then click on of the few they offer or you can type on html color code and voila your page is now a different color, of course you save the setting or try another color and it will automatically change it so you can see it before saving. You can do this color and font changes with various parts of the page. Very easy.
    There is the top header where you can just put in picture or also include text. All you do is at layout you select page elements and then select the header area and then you can upload picture or just put in Title. Under that is another long wide area where you can upload picture or paste in html for another function or put in text. Then you have a widget area on the right hand side and you can add as many as you like by finding widget html code on web and paste it in. You can move the widgets by dragging them around to change the order they they line up on the right hand side. Also a widget area on the bottom of the page where you can paste in html. Also you have a choice of things you can do in widget areas like create lists, and a bunch of other things. For list you click it and then a menu pops up and you fill in the title of the list and add something to the list. Or you can select links and add a link. You should try it and open one up for free.

  15. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    secondgradereading,

    Did you search from either your dashboard, or from here?

    http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/tag-filter/

    You can select the boxes in that search that will provide the features you're looking for such as, 'custom header' '2 column', '3 column' etc.

  16. esmi
    Theme Diva & Forum Moderator
    Posted 4 years ago #

  17. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I checked again and no download button.

    I saw the editor but there is no way to click on the certain widget area and then copy and paste what you want there. It looks like you have to figure out the area on the page in the html in order to change it. When you say simple text editor, it may be simple to you but never had to use one before. So I would have to know how to structure the change and type it in to the editor in just the right place to get a simple widget?

    Very good links you provided about the minima. I like the stretch version.

  18. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I checked again and no download button.

    The download button for the template is found here, from your WP dashboard:
    Appearance > Add New Themes > Upload >

    Or, before you select upload, locate the theme you want at 'Add New Themes'

    I saw the editor but there is no way to click on the certain widget area and then copy and paste what you want there.

    If you want to use the widgets similar to how you use them with Blogger, go to this in your WP Dashboard:
    Appearance > Widgets > then select from the widgets from the 'Available Widgets' area. For example, select, 'Text' and then move it to the sidebar area, footer area etc. Then add what you want into the widget. Is that what you're asking?

  19. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    The shadow box looks like the simpliest looking. I guess I could try installing it and playing around with it. I think blogger really faked me out since I thought if I can figure this out in a day or two how hard can wp be? Wrong. I will attempt this but instead of spending so much time making busy templates how about making some basic ones that can be easily customized like blogger? If it turns out to be like reinventing the wheel I think maybe I should go back to blogger. My main concern was that with blogger your domain name is longer and less likely to get anywhere in the rankings. But the more I read I think that if you have a good name and good content, link with like sites, get your self on some sort of directories and update content at least weekly if not daily then you will maybe be the same as having the site hosted by bluehost??? I do think to make this worthwhile it has to be user friendly and not take up too much time just trying to get it going and updating it. Blogger made it fun in a way. I was looking for other things to add to it. But with wp I would be kind of cringing at the thought of having to dig deep to find the answers to how to add something. I am sure it is keeping lots of folks employed making templetes and helping folks out of website nightmare.

  20. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Ok inspired you have inspired me here goes.

  21. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    My main concern was that with blogger your domain name is longer and less likely to get anywhere in the rankings.

    You have two choices, secondgradereading:

    If you stay with Blogger, you can convert your existing blogspot blog into a custom domain, using blogger. Blogger will do a permanent redirect from your existing blogspot url to your own domain. If you decide to do that, I can provide you some info to walk you through.

    However, even with your own domain using the Blogger platform, you do not have the infinite possibilities with Blogger as you will with WordPress. WordPress is by far more difficult than Blogger because you also have to maintain a cpanel, database, use an ftp etc., but learning those things again gives you greater flexibility. The old saying applies, "Good things take time." when you're learning a new platform. :o

  22. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Well I found Shadowbox and installed it. The color choices are like a handful of color sets. I found Shadow Box options and I just don't see any picture options for the widgets in either the default theme or shadowbox. There must be it just wants you to dig more for it I guess. I know I have read the possibilities are infinate with wp but I am not seeing them in the theme options.

    I am not sure if redirecting folks from blogger account to my own domain would help me in rankings at all. Wouldn't there really be a disconnect with the search engines as far as rankings? Unless you already had a following that would follow but my blogger account is only one week old and not set up completely yet. I think the search engines look at the domain name and they look at content and links you have for ranking. What site would they rank?

    I don't think this will not be a big commercial site but I would like to attract folks to it. Maybe it could be? So having folks be able to find the site is important. Can I do that with blogger? Will the rankings be harder to affect with blogger than with wp/bluehost? If they are equal as far as setting it up to attract visitors the same number of folks then blogger wins hands down for me. Is the shorter domain name and the utilities like SEO or linking with others the same or better with wp?

    2) Also like the idea where I can make it feel more personal and that is why I like the minima so that folks will feel like it is more of a personal connection with personal blog like surroundings. The content should stand out, not all the designs. I use color and fonts and layout to make it easy to find things. Not too busy.

    I know infinate possibilities is a good thing but I think sometimes it is overwhelming that is why I titled my post about the soldier who gets back and has so many choices of cereal he can't make a decision. I want such a basic thing and I don't even see it at wp and that has me confused if they are not even addressing that they what else are they avoiding? Here their biggest competitor uses a very popular template and they aren't even providing one like it.

    I am willing to learn up to a point and at this point I have no idea where that point is with this. Will this be another linux nightmare or will it be just learning a bit more to get desired results?

    I have geek leanings but not super geek by any means. I do all the clean installs, replacing hardware, flashed the bios way back when even my instructors hadn't. I can tear down the box and put it back before most. With blogger I could find so many places for an answer on something but here I am not so sure. Finding a basic template was not that successful.

    Is there a good site that I should check out?

    As far as the link to themeclubhouse there was no install at that link. I did search for it online through wp but the theme plastiques didn't pull up. That is why I think they want me to buy the pdf for 27.00 to create it on my own.

  23. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I see where there are wp theme generators. Does anyone know of a good one? Maybe I could set up a basic page with generator and then ad plug ins that would allow me to add more things to the site.

  24. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I know I have read the possibilities are infinate with wp but I am not seeing them in the theme options.

    That depends on the theme you choose. You can experiment with many themes from your dashboard. Esmi suggested the theme, "Atahualpa", which may give you more of the options you're looking for.
    http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/atahualpa

    my blogger account is only one week old

    Don't worry about doing any redirects from that blog because a blog only one week old isn't going to benefit you for a redirect, mainly because it's on a subdomain of Bloggers. You could simply write a new post on it and include a link to your new blog, going to your own domain with your new blog.

    Will the rankings be harder to affect with blogger than with wp/bluehost? If they are equal as far as setting it up to attract visitors the same number of folks then blogger wins hands down for me. Is the shorter domain name and the utilities like SEO or linking with others the same or better with wp?

    With WP on your own domain you will have far more control for seo than with Blogger. With Blogger you would have to do quite a few hacks with your template for better seo, but even then you still can't control other things that impact seo with Blogger because you can't access everything as you can with WP.

    Here their biggest competitor uses a very popular template and they aren't even providing one like it.

    Template possibilities with WordPress are far greater, and with little effort, if you select the right template that is easiest for you to work with. Again, try something like Atahualpa. But, it's not the only one that provides ways to tweak it.

    Is there a good site that I should check out?

    If you really want to learn WordPress, search through the various support articles etc. for starters.
    http://codex.wordpress.org/Main_Page

  25. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Your a gem I will see what I can learn by tomorrow.

  26. secondgradereading
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Inspired to write I think I will take you up on any help you can give me on my blogger accounts. I spent more hours trying to get wordpress configured right but it only got worse. I spent time googling for answers but I found so many posts that were not answered. I also found links on wp that the code writers are not maintaining. So all in all I think wordpress reminds me of linux. Lots of free code for the taking but not much support on many levels. If google owns blogger.com then my guess is they will be continually adding more functions and maybe a way for better ranking since they are a search site. I see you have a blogger site about blogger.com that I shall check out closer. Thanks again. Goodbye WordPress and Bluehost.

  27. Inspired2Write
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi Secondgradereading,

    It's good that you at least took the time to experiment with WordPress! See you around in the blogosphere!

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