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[Notice] AdSense Manager Banned by Google (24 posts)

  1. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Adsense Manager was a new WordPress plugin to help manage Adsense ads on your blog. While other plugins required you to copy and paste code from the Google Adsense site, Adsense Manager generated the code automatically.

    Unfortunately, AdSense Manager has been banned by Google for being in violation of unspecified T&Cs, and my account has been suspended. Without any information to correct the problem I have no choice but to remove AdSense Manager from distribution.

    More information is available in this post. A series of FAQs are available on the WordPress Extend site.

    You can of course show your support for AdSense Manager by sending a short comment to Google.

    Thanks are due to the thousands of users who've supported AdSense Manager during the development of the plugin. It's been good... up to now!

    All the best & best of luck with your blogs.

  2. moshu
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Don't use relative path!
    href="/projects/wordpress/adsense-manager/banned

  3. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    You got banned because your plugin, by default, puts your adsense code onto other people's sites a certain percentage of the time. Google does not allow you to do that sort of thing. This is why they require approval of any site to join adsense. You'd get banned if you put adsense on other sites that you made without getting a new domain approved by them as well.

    Relevant T&C stuff:
    "You acknowledge and agree that Ads and/or Links: (i) shall only be displayed in connection with the Site(s), each of which is subject to review and approval by Google in its discretion at any time..."

    "A site or third party cannot display our ads, search box, search results, or referral buttons as a result of the actions of any software application such as a toolbar."

    "You may not... (vi) directly or indirectly access, launch, and/or activate Ads, Links, Search Results, or Referral Buttons through or from, or otherwise incorporate the Ads, Links, Search Results, or Referral Buttons in, any software application, Web site, or other means other than Your Site(s), and then only to the extent expressly permitted by this Agreement"

    In short, if your plugin didn’t try to take revenue from displaying your ads on other sites, you wouldn’t have gotten banned. Other sites are *not* allowed to display your ads. If you want funding for writing your plugin, get it by donations or something.

  4. drmike
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Just to clarify, we're talking about 'other sites' as in something like the adverts for teh account abc.tld showing up on the site of xyz.com, right? I'm thinking of all those wpmu sites that show adsense banners when the site admin's banners show say 20% of the time.

  5. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Otto42: That's not true. Google specifically say that once you have approved your original domain you can place your ads on any other domains as you see fit. They do not require you to re-approve every single site your ads are used on. It may be that these have to be your own sites (if that is what "Your Site(s)" refers to) but I wouldn't read that as explicit.

    It's in the T&Cs too (I checked before adding the feature to the plugin) but I am banned from reading them now.

    The toolbar issue should not be relevant as it relates to displaying ads on a non-content site. If it is against the rules to generate the ads themselves (AdSense Manager created the code on the fly) then the whole plugin is in violation.

    Since Google have refused to clarify in what way I was in violation, I assumed the worst and removed the whole plugin. It simply doesn't make any sense to continue distributing something which could result in people losing their AdSense accounts.

    If someone else wants to take up development of the plugin minus the donations feature, it's still in the SVN.

    moshu: Thanks, links are plugin and post. If you can change them it would be appreciated.

  6. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    @drmike: Right. That's against their TOS.

    When Google approves you, they ask for your site address. And if you watch closely, they actually visit your site and check it out before approving you. A brand new WordPress blog will often get rejected, for example. You have to show that you have real content for them to approve you.

    Putting your adsense ads on other sites, especially ones that you don't "own", is a big no-no and will get you banned real, real fast.

    The special case of WordPress MU sites might be a bit simpler.. The site owner is showing his own ads on his own site. His members are showing their ads on their sites. So there's nothing to flag this automatically in Google's system. Whereas abc.com's ad's on xyz.com's site will get automatically flagged for review. This is only my educated guess, mind you, but it makes sense to me.

  7. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Otto42: That's not true. Google specifically say that once you have approved your original domain you can place your ads on any other domains as you see fit. They do not require you to re-approve every single site your ads are used on. It may be that these have to be your own sites (if that is what "Your Site(s)" refers to) but I wouldn't read that as explicit.

    Their TOS seems to disagree with that, to me, but let's just say you are correct for sake of argument.

    You realize that if any site showing your ad violates the TOS in some other way, you'd get banned as well, right?

    Like say some site posts some porn or something. Or uses a popup. Or whatever... Your ad shows up as having been on that site, you get banned too. Still seems like a really bad idea to put ads on sites that you have no control over, ya think?

  8. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Otto42: Once you have added your first site you can then show your Ads using your same Google Id on other sites. Check the TOS, they specifically say you do not have to re-apply for each site.

    I suspect too that certain people who were using the plugin were showing ads on sites which either contained invalid content or were against the Google TOS themselves. Unfortunately, as I've said, because Google refuse to state the reason for the ban this may be wrong.

    It's worth noting that in my appeal I specifically asked to be notified if the plugin itself was in violation. I also asked whether removing the donation would solve the violation problem being aware that this alone might be the cause.

    If I knew that the ban was purely against income generated in this manner and not the plugin I would happily continue to distribute it (albeit without being able to develop it further).

    However, given Google don't discuss the results of an appeal I don't see a way to establish this. I could of course take your word for it, but it would be a risk at other peoples expense.

  9. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    mutube: I really have no idea where you're seeing this in their terms, but I did find this little gem in there:

    "In addition, You agree that while You may display more than one (1) Ad Unit on each Site Web page, You shall not display any Ad Unit on a page that contains Ads associated with another Google AdSense customer (e.g., Your Web hosting company), unless authorized to do so by Google."

    https://www.google.com/adsense/static/en_US/Terms.html

    Given the way the plugin generates ads, this seems like a definite violation of their terms, because it's almost certain to display more than one accounts adsense ad on a page at some point.

    As far as the plugin goes, if it's generating code identical to Google's code (which is frankly not difficult to do), then there's no way they could detect the use of a plugin in the first place. Heck, I use some code to generate the adsense javascript instead of having it copied/pasted from their generator. But the code is the same as if I had done so, so how are they going to know? Short of reading this post, of course... ;)

    The fact of the plugin is not the issue, the method the plugin used most likely is.

  10. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Otto42: I made sure that didn't happen! When it displayed my Ads on the site it displayed only my Ads. Of course it then depends on what your definition of ads "being on the same page" is.

    The code generated should be identical although I can't be certain of it at all times. I would just like confirmation that it can be used and then I'll release it with the revenue generation remove.

    I can't get that confirmation because they refuse to talk to me! I have sent an additional 'I am not arguing the outcome of the appeal but can you confirm that it is not against the rules to generate code from a plugin' type email but got no reply. I am unable to access their contact form because of the ban.

    If you want to ask please do. Word it in a general if you like, but let me know how it goes!

  11. jtdataworks
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Just to clarify one small point here about adding adsense to your OWN sites. Though it does not state it in the T&C that I can find, in their FAQs Google states:

    "There's no need to open another account or notify us when you place the AdSense code on a new site..."

    I know that does not answer the greater question, but does take one point of debate out of the ring.

  12. drmike
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I just wish you had gotten an answer. All this guessing makes it feel like this is the wp.com forums. :)

  13. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    After thinking about what you said Otto42 I've updated the pages to notify potential users of the potential violation and then leave it up to them to decide.

    Hopefully someone will have luck asking Google for clarification ...although I seriously doubt it! Time to move onto other projects.

    Anybody know any other good ad networks?

  14. jtdataworks
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    These suggestions come from Joel Comm's "The Adsense Code" as alternatives to Google.

    Kontera.com
    chitika.com
    contextcash.com
    publisher.yahoo.com
    adbrite.com

    Good luck!

  15. fragglebottom
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I only today installed WP, I also installed this AdSense Manager only to see this forum message now

    What are the implications of me keeping AdSense Manager on my blog? I have currently disabled it, however would very much like to keep using it, but obviously don't want my google adsense account banned...

    is it the developer who is in trouble or also the users?

  16. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    fragglebottom: I'm the developer of AdSense Manager. At the moment it isn't clear whether using the plugin is a violation of the Google T&Cs or if it was just the feature which donated a share of Ads to me. I did ask specifically in my appeal for information on this (regardless of the outcome) but they will not discuss it.

    In theory it should be impossible for Google to identify whether you are using AdSense Manager or not, but I can't be sure. If you want to use it make sure you download the latest version (2.3). To be extra safe copy & paste code into the Code Units which replicate the Google code as is.

    A few people have contacted Google on my behalf and as soon as I hear back I'll post an update. Feel free to do the same.

    Thanks,

  17. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    jtdataworks: Thanks for that, I've gone with AdBrite which seems a pretty equivalent setup to Google. Might cover the hosting costs yet...

  18. fragglebottom
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    mutube: thanks for the info mate, I have downloaded and upgraded from 2.1 to 2.3 now... sorry to hear this plugin has got you in some ****, its a great plugin in my opinion.

  19. bedbugger
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    mutube,
    sorry--that was a cool plugin.

  20. Sajor
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I guess that we don't know the complete story. I wonder if you used something like content generator to fill your blog with 3rd party information. I heard that Google can ban you for that, so maybe the problem isn't the adsense plugin but your content.

  21. mutube
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Just to clear this up as I still get asked questions about it: the issue is completely resolved between me and Google and on reasonable terms. Be Nice was removed as requested and then replaced in a way which doesn't violate the Google T&Cs (and I have this in writing).

    The plugin continues to be developed and has just made the grand old age of v3.0. I've added referral links in the interface to try and generate revenue that way: if it makes equivalent to Be Nice (currently ~$30/mo) I'll remove Be Nice again. I don't need to be rich just comfortable ;)

    Hope that clears it up for everyone who reads this thread 9 months in the future!

  22. nclester
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    So I'm confused, Adsense Manager works now or it's totally gone, which would really suck. I tried updating the plug-in like a week ago and got a few fatal errors, I tried agian and still wasn't able to fix it. Now my categories are gone and I have no ads?

    And I have this ugly ass error on my home page.

    Fatal error: Call to undefined function adsensem_ad() in /home/stickine/public_html/wp-content/themes/themasterplan_tma_v1/tma/ad_home.php on line 3

    Sorry for the code, but I need some freaking help.

  23. miom
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    mutub,

    your adsense mgr does not seem to limit the number of adsense ads to the 3 limit on adsense referrals on my WordPress home page. What am I doing wrong? Maybe when I am setting up the referral ad?

    Please advise.

    TY

    miom

  24. miom
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    mutub,

    I also wanted to mention too that I cannot get the Widget to work on my pagebar for inserting adsense. It won't show up.

    any thoughts?

    miom

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