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1. Waywyn
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Hey all,

   I just googled around a bit and it seems like not my templates and plugins are the problems, but WordPress 2.8 ... can that be?

   I always had my website running fine, lots of plugs, lots of trial and deinstalling plugs again etc. ... everything was really fine, but during the last few days I had lots of problems with my website since it gave me error messages etc. and whatnot all ... in the meantime I had to raise the server memory to 128MB!!! ... come on, this is a simple wordpress website with a few plugins and nice thingies going on ... is 2.8. just badly coded or what is going on?

   Cheers and sorry for being so agressive, but I am loosing countless working hours and should care about other problems rather than PHP stuff :)

   Thanks in advance, in the meantime I will try to install 2.7 to get along.

2. ClaytonJames
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   is 2.8. just badly coded...

   Nope.

   everything was really fine, but during the last few days I had lots of problems with my website since it gave me error messages etc. and whatnot all ..

   'Whatnot all' covers a pretty broad spectrum of possibilities. Care to share any of those errors and tell us what you are doing when they occur? Also... and this may just be pure misinterpretation on my part... it seems as if you are suggesting that you very recently upgraded to 2.8 and then noticed the issues. That could be important. When did you upgrade from 2.7 to to 2.8 ?

   Lastly, providing a link to your site may enable someone to take a look at things and possibly make a suggestion or two.

3. Waywyn
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Hey ClaytonJames,

   okay a link to my website is here: http://www.alexpfeffer.net
   I set the RAM limit to 128MB now in the wp-settings, only by doing this it works fine.

   My server is running PHP5 , so I think this shouldn't be the problem.

   The usual error messages I get are something like the following:
   Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 100663296 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 491520 bytes) in /xxxxx/wp-content/themes/eNews/functions.php on line 896

   It is not always the theme I am using which causes those error messages. It changes. Sometimes it is a not speficic plugin, sometimes it is just a wordpress php file ... everytime I refresh the page it would look different ... and I have those messages inside the admin area and on the website directly.

   So I went back to 2.7 but it didn't change anything, then I deactivated ALL plugins, loaded different much smaller themes - same thing.

   The only thing which could help, was allowing the server to use 128MB - although I think I might get trouble since 64MB or maybe 96MB is allowed with that provider.

4. Waywyn
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Oh btw: is there a tool or something on how to test, how much RAM my website needs in general? I assume by just checking Safari or any other browser in my Activity Monitor right? Sorry for the questions, but I am a noob in this area ... I just want to get this stuff solved :)

   Thanks a lot btw for your reply!

5. ClaytonJames
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Nice looking site. It seemed to take a very long time to load for me, but that might just be my wireless connection today.

   I saw no unusual server responses, no 404's, no looping redirects, nothing that sends off a flare. The memory adjustments you would need to make in this case should probably not actually reflect the amount of memory dedicated to your server. The error and the settings you have changed (if I understand correctly) simply increases the amount of memory that is available to be consumed by running scripts within your website. (I hope I got that right.) So in effect, I think all you have done is given a potential run-away script, more memory to consume before it exhausts itself.

   You can read a little about the common issues with this error and see if it sparks anything useful.

   "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of"

   At least it might give you an idea of what some of the possibilities are that you could be dealing with.

   Here is a common summary of what to do with those types of errors;

   Fatal error: Allowed memory size of xxxxxxxx bytes exhausted

   If deactivating plugins doesn't work try one of these methods for increasing the amount of memory a PHP script may consume

   1. If you have access to your PHP.ini file, change the line in PHP.ini
   If your line shows 32M try 64M:
   memory_limit = 64M ; Maximum amount of memory a script may consume (64MB)

   2. If you don't have access to PHP.ini try adding this to an .htaccess file:
   php_value memory_limit 64M

   3. Try adding this line to your wp-config.php file:
   Increasing memory allocated to PHP
   define('WP_MEMORY_LIMIT', '64M');

   4. Talk to your host.

   Good luck to you!

6. Waywyn
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Hex ClaytonJames,

   thanks a lot for your suggestions (and thanks for the compliment regarding my website :))

   I really see the reason of having too many plugins open, but I also trimmed my website down to 0 plugs and I still had this ongoing error. Then I got those error messages but with php errors of wordpress modules/parts.

   So it seems like something inside WordPress seems to be broken. I already went back to 2.7, then upgraded again to 2.8.6 ... it is still the same.

   Currently the website is running fine but only because I set my servers RAM usage to 128MB! ... It doesn't run anymore with 96MB ... I simply wonder "how long" :)
   I mean it could exhaust 128MB soon so I would need more.

   Thanks for your help and links. I will definitely go through that list.
   It is just my provide can't help me much. They think this WordPress template is just too big and I need a smaller one .... I will hunt this beast down ... or change providers :)

   Cheers,

   Alex

7. Waywyn
   Member
   Posted 2 years ago #

   Lol, Hex ... of course I ment Hey :D

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