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My top four feature requests (10 posts)

  1. susan@ncc.com
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    1. If I sort the posts by a category or subcategory filter, it should stay that way until I choose a different sort or log out.

    2. There needs to be a "close without saving" button in the editor

    3. The Media Manager needs to support subdirectories

    4. 30 items per page in the posts and pages manager is too limiting. I should be able to view all, and having set the system to view all, it should stay that way until I log out.

  2. 2. There needs to be a "close without saving" button in the editor

    Close and go where? Most of the time you just close the page.

    4. 30 items per page in the posts and pages manager is too limiting. I should be able to view all, and having set the system to view all, it should stay that way until I log out.

    Go to the posts page, click on Screen Options, change it from 20 (or 30) to whatever :)

  3. susan@ncc.com
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Close and go back to the list of pages or posts.

    This is a common feature on most CMSs (Joomla, for example). If you simply abandon the changes and go back to the list of pages/posts in WordPress, the next time you open that post/page, you are presented with an autosave warning containing the very post/page you were trying to abandon.

    If WordPress wants to play with the big boys, it needs to add some of the features that the big boys have.

  4. Rev. Voodoo
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    If WordPress wants to play with the big boys, it needs to add some of the features that the big boys have

    In terms of numbers... WordPress IS the big boy!

  5. susan@ncc.com
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Then it needs to put on its big boy panties and get some of the big boy features.

  6. steevithak
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    The "close without saving" would be handy. If you open a post in the editor and then decide not to save it, there's no clear way to leave the editor. You can just click back over to the dashboard or something but especially to a new user, it's unclear what happens to the post if you abandon it that way. And you frequently end up with the weird warning message later saying there's a "newer" copy of the post saved in a backup buffer, but it's just the same post with no changes. Since WP doesn't know you meant to abandon the post, it seems to save a "backup" of it for later, resulting in another confusing experience for newbies (who look at the alleged "newer" copy only to see it's identical to the existing one). As to where it should send you when you "exit", I'd suggest back to the list of posts or pages, whichever you were editing.

  7. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    but especially to a new user, it's unclear what happens to the post if you abandon it that way.

    I disagree that that "close without saving" would help. Think about a common desktop app like MS Word. There's no "close and abandon changes" option in there. In fact, Off the top of my head, I can't think of a common desktop app that has this functionality. They all rely on you closing the app at which point they issue a warning - which is pretty much what WP does too.

    Given the user base for WordPress, I think it is far more effective for the UI to build into this kind of "learned experience" than it is to try and develop new UI features simply because "that's what foo CMS does". WordPress isn't trying to ape other CMS. What's the point in that? It's trying to build a system that even very non-technical users with basic computer experience can use. And that's a whole different ball game...

  8. If WordPress wants to play with the big boys, it needs to add some of the features that the big boys have.

    Yeeeaah, no. :) WordPress's footprint in the CMS world is pretty huge already, so hyperbolic statements like that are just blowing smoke.

    Also men are not potatoes. WordPress isn't Drupal or Joomla or SharePoint. It's WordPress, and with that, you have to accept that some things will be different. And one of the totally cool things about WP is that you can add in almost anything you want.

    http://halfelf.org/hacks/cancel-post-button/

  9. steevithak
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I disagree that that "close without saving" would help. Think about a common desktop app like MS Word.

    I think a more apt comparison would be other web-based CMS applications rather than a desktop app for a particular OS. Nearly every other CMS application offers the user the choice of saving or abandoning a post. As the original poster pointed out, this is true in Joomla, Drupal, and most other CMS apps I've used. To be suddenly faced with an app that has a "save" but no abandon or cancel option can be confusing to a new user. But my complaint was more that if this is the intended way of abandoning a post, WP shouldn't then do an automatic backup of the abandoned post and warn you later that you need to restore the "newer" version of the post it saved for you. This strikes me as a bug.

    Ipstenu: thanks for the plugin, definitely a step in the right direction. Would like to see that made part of the base program but at least it's available now. (an unrelated question: is there some official way where the functionality of specific plugins can be nominated to be included as a standard feature of future versions of WP?)

  10. is there some official way where the functionality of specific plugins can be nominated to be included as a standard feature of future versions of WP?

    You can use WordPress Ideas.

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