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Multi-site questions :: an actual network or bust... (46 posts)

  1. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I've not messed with it for awhile, but is there a way yet to actually create a network and not just a collection of blogs?

    I want to have multiple sites, relating to some extent to the same topic, basketball. Each team will have their own site, but I want some content to reach across into other sites. I'd also like a section where all posts are listed.

    I can create that within one site, of course, but I'd like for each team to have their own identity, their own color scheme, maybe even their own theme, based on the blogger. If I can't have the kind of network I want, I'd like to get rid of multi-site.

  2. esmi
    Theme Diva & Forum Moderator
    Posted 2 years ago #

  3. but I want some content to reach across into other sites. I'd also like a section where all posts are listed.

    you'll need plugins for both of those things.

  4. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Already read that. Does anyone have any practical experience with it?

  5. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Andrea, my response was to Esmi.

  6. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Ok...I've decided to just revert back to a single user WordPress. I've seen a couple of posts that make it look "easy", but I'm guessing that's not the case. For example, one instruction was to "take out the lines you added in wp-config". I don't know which ones were added.

    I have backed up my data. I have also created a new database, removing all the unnecessary tables, as well as changing all the wp_1_ prefixes, which is noting the blog number, to wp_.

    I tried to re-configure and reinstall the site on the new database, but it's not working. For me that sounded easier than exporting the site, but I'm clearly wrong on it.

  7. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    For one, it's not recognizing my account information, and it's not as though I've touched the User or Usermeta tables.

  8. Jim R - A lot of us have practical experience with it :) We're using it daily.

    but is there a way yet to actually create a network and not just a collection of blogs?

    A network IS a collection of blogs (sites, whatever). However you may just want BuddyPress.

  9. , as well as changing all the wp_1_ prefixes,

    following the directions above should NOT result in any tables winding up with a 1 in them. A 2 yes, for the second site, but not a 1.

    Something went wrong somewhere.

    try these instructions:
    http://wpebooks.com/2010/09/how-to-enable-multisite-in-wordpress/

    and don;t use a one-click install on your server to set up wordpress.

  10. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    @Ipstenu

    I view a network as a collection integrated sites. I've viewed multi site as just a way to provide Users (by my control or their control) the ability to have a blog on my space. I realize plugins have bridged the gap, but what worries me is it isn't inherent. To set up and continue a true network, I have to rely on all these plugins to be maintained.

    My needs would be:
    1. Integrated users
    2. Integrated content
    3. Integrated method to group users for the purpose of controlling the content
    4. Integrated method to charge for access to certain parts of each site

    I realize plugins are out there that should do all of that, but I have to have them continue to work as WP goes forward. I'm not suggesting it's a flaw with WP, just an obstacle for my needs, but I would think #1 and #2 would be obvious.

    A 5th area would be great to have integrated media, especially NextGen. :)

    The idea of BuddyPress is appealing, but I can't seem to get it to work nicely with my theme (StudioPress), and I've tried a theme conversion plugin or something along those lines.

    @andrea_r

    The times I've set up multisite--a couple of test sites--it's always created wp_1_ tables for my main blog/site, then used those from that point forward. I cross checked my ID's, and all that I checked use the tables with those prefixes, so I deleted what would be the duplicate tables.

    In my conversion, I can now get to the back end of my site, which is to say I did accidentally delete the Users table. The front end is not working. I have yet to touch the .htaccess file, beyond backing it up, nor have I touched the plugins yet.

    I appreciate input from both of you, including any future attempts to enlighten me.

  11. I have to say I'm with Andrea here - If wp_1_ is being created, then something's telling WP that you're using the OLD WPMU stuff and not regular WordPress.

    You install WordPress per normal, all the tables are wp_ehatever correct?

    Then you go in and edit the wp-config to add ONE line. Refresh. Add the other lines, and the .htaccess, log out, log in, done.

    1. Integrated users
    2. Integrated content

    In the broad scheme of things ... that's WordPress and/or WP + BuddyPress (By the way, try the BP Template Pack - It works well. If you're using a Genesis Connect theme via Studio Press, I believe they have a plugin to help there as well.)

    Where you get hung up is your definition of 'integrated content' may be different from mine ;) I make do just fine with groups and forums. You may need separate blogs. Hard to say based on what you've told us.

    3. Integrated method to group users for the purpose of controlling the content

    How much control are we talking about? What sort of groups are we talking about?

    4. Integrated method to charge for access to certain parts of each site

    Justin Tadlock's Members plugin should be able to do that for WordPress AND BuddyPress.

  12. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I'm using S2Member for my payment plugin, and by "groups" I just mean roles utilized by S2Member. I've gotten pretty good at using the scripts to control content across my site, aside from associating certain pages and categories to varied levels of access.

    You could be on to something regarding WPMU. I'm not sure what I did in going from WPMU to what WP now calls multisite.

    Are you saying my main blog tables should all be devoid of wp_1_ prefixes?

    Any plugin I added to main blog all created tables with the prefix of wp_1_. I only had two other blogs on my "network", one I no longer use and a test blog.

  13. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    In a new database, I converted all the wp_1_###### prefixes to just wp_#####, and when I linked my site to this database, the back end looks and acts normal, including all my posts, tags, and pages.

    Is that a good way to get a fresh start?

  14. Are you saying my main blog tables should all be devoid of wp_1_ prefixes?

    If you started from a FRESH wordpress install, then yes.

    If you;re putting up a new install of WordPress and tossing the multisite lines in wp-config during the install process... don't do that.

    You could be on to something regarding WPMU. I'm not sure what I did in going from WPMU to what WP now calls multisite.

    If you had actually installed WPMU, you;re already running a network no need to enable multisite because you already had it.

  15. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    No, the other database doesn't the multisite lines. It's the clean wp-config.php.

    I think I just want a fresh start with the caveat of my post, pages, and tags.

  16. I think I just want a fresh start with the caveat of my post, pages, and tags.

    Time for an export/import then, I think. If you're not going to lose any users, that's a solid thing to do :)

    I'm using S2Member for my payment plugin, and by "groups" I just mean roles utilized by S2Member.

    Ah, I've never used that plugin, so I don't know how it would integrate with restricting access per user role.

  17. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    It's an awesome plugin, loaded with features and free. It does have multisite considerations in it. I just haven't explored it.

    Basically, I never got the full effect of WPMU and haven't explored it since. It's probably more refined or has access to more plugins than before, but right now, my database looks so darn messy, it's scary.

    Also, I LOATHE the Network Admin stuff. I "activated" all my plugins from a network perspective, and on my site's dashboard they all disappeared. They all still work, menus and all, but they no longer show up. I also get tired of installing a plugin and forgetting I have to activate it via the network.

    I digress-----

    I've already converted my database and tried a fresh wp-config.php file. The back end looks good. The front end, not so much. My site is at a very down time of year, so I can carve it up a little and screw things up for the next two to three weeks.

    Would my next steps be deactivating the plugins, reactivating them, and putting up a fresh htaccess file?

  18. You dno't have to network activate a plugin unless it requires it. You can still activate them per-site.

  19. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    What about the part after "I digress". :)
    I need validation, even if it's, "No, you idiot, that's not what you do next."

  20. Sorry :) Yes, go ahead and turn off plugins (AND try the default Twenty Eleven theme). If that looks good, it may be as simple as a weird plugin or a theme issue.

  21. and give us a link?

  22. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

  23. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I'm still getting this error:

    The page isn't redirecting properly
    
              Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
    
      This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept
        cookies.

    I emptied the htaccess file. I hadn't backed up the original.

  24. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I'm also getting this on my Dashboard:

    Domain Mapping Disabled. You must create a network for it to work.

    At one point, I had a Domain Mapping Plugin. I'm pretty sure I disabled it. Where might a remnant of it be?

  25. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    And it won't let me add plugins. It clearly still thinks I have multisite. :(

  26. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Found the problem. I had a domain mapping plugin in the mu-plugins folder. It's still not giving me an option to add plugins, but the front end shows up.

  27. Go to http://hoosierhoopsreport.com/wp-admin/network/plugins.php and see if it lets you add 'em there.

  28. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    It says I don't have sufficient permissions.

  29. Excellent!

    Go into wp_sitemeta in your DB.

    Look up site_admins

    What do you have in there?

  30. Jim R
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Wasn't that one of the tables I was to get rid of?

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