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[resolved] Most trouble free editor with good support for tables? (wysiwyg capable) (33 posts)

  1. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    What is the most trouble free wysiwyg editor that offers basic features such as bold, italic, underline, links

    AND

    a) strike through and subscripts
    b) justification, indent, spacing
    c) images (with positioning)
    d) TABLES with cell spanning and all

    I have a bunch of html-illiterate editors that need to produce formatted text, including tables, without coding skills.

  2. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I have no clue what's "best". For convenience, I often point folks to Windows Live Writer beta which is a windows client that makes blog posting pretty simply. I'm not sure how it handles tables though.

    I saw this editor plugin announced recently: http://www.deanlee.cn/2006/10/23/fckeditor-for-wordpress-plugin/ seems like something you might want to check out as well.

  3. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I need online editing, ie. no "clients".

    Thanks for the fck-link.

    Does anybody have any other suggestions?

  4. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Btw, FCK breaks Event Calendar 3 event editor... At least in my system... Don't know why...

  5. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

  6. cielogrande
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    How about Nvu? It's a free open source HTML editor, similar to Dreamweaver or GoLive. Pretty nice! http://www.nvu.com/index.php
    DB~

  7. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Editor monkey does not work in WP2.0.4+ and its development has ended. NVU is a desktop tool not suitable for collaborative efforts (with many people) where people change constantly (yearly at least) and need to blog even from public computers, Macs, PCs, Linuxes... Can I have an NVU as a java applet or PHP code, thanks.

    Still looking for alternatives to the "Deans FCKEditor for WP". The Wysiwyg Pro is unfortunately too expensive for our ~60€/year (incl. webhotell) publishing budget.

    - The Mudbomb Wysi-Wordpress?
    - Xinha 4 WP?
    - Any other?

  8. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I tried both Deans FCKeditor and Wysi-wordpress and Xinha. They ALL made Event Calendar 3 fail. Finally I found this:

    http://trac.labnotes.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/WPPlugin/AdvancedWysiwyg

    It offers great flexibility and it also does not break the event calendar 3 input form/jscripts. Now I just need to install a few TinyMCE plugins (such as "table", "fullscreen" and so on).

    I have a problem, though. If I copy any of these TinyMCE plugins to wp-includes/jscript/tinymce/... then WordPress immediately drops me back to the basic editor. If I then rm -rf the plugin directory, TinyMCE will show up again.

    I guess I need to edit something somewhere to make this work. Any ideas?

  9. AdventureDad
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I'm not sure I understand exactly hat you're looking for but the best WYSIWYG editor I've found for WP is by Mudbomb (http://mudbomb.com/archives/2005/02/02/wysiwyg-plugin-for-wordpress/ )

    Offers all kinds of formatting options and image options, including thumbnails. I don't know what you're looking for in tables but perhaps you can take a look at it. It saves me an incredible amount of time and has worked flawlessly since I first started using it.

    AD

  10. Fififi
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I agree with cielogrande, I've found Nvu the best - and free - although they are no longer developing the software. Good luck

  11. baptiste
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    The latest beta of Xinha4WP works with EventCalendar3. Earlier versions were clobbering the onload list and breaking EventCalendar3.

    Xinha has great table support and all the features the original poster asked about

  12. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I don't like Mudbombs Wysi-Wordpress because it is broken:

    1) Instead of the usual "post" window, I now have a "post" and an "undefined" window (or text area or what ever they are called). They are not even of equal sizes. I want just one editor window for my post.

    2) the Mudbomb editor does not have bold or italic, no subscript either

    3) tool tips look like this: {$lang_striketrough_desc}

    4) my Gallery2 tool is not visible in Mudbombs editor

    5) no tables in this either

    6) the readme says that I should consult the HTML documentation, but no such documentation exists

  13. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    NVU is completely out of the question, because I don't have permission to install it in all the public libraries, university computer classes and internet cafes in town.

  14. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Oh, sorry, I have to disable "rich editor" first. Much better :) I found out that I can customize this too, by editing wordpress.js
    Now I have subscripts, superscripts, charater map... and all the goodies. Except for tables and Gallery2 images... I did download the tables plugin and I followed the instructions, but "tables" is still missing from the toolbar...

  15. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "Insert image" (image browser) doesn't work either.

  16. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    What web browser are you using?

  17. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Xinha4wp is promising. Tables work. Character map, subscripts, etc. work. Nice. Thanks :)

  18. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Firefox 1.5.0.7 on Ubuntu Linux

  19. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Here's a new link since you started this thread:

    http://sisifodichoso.org/etiquetags/En/demo.html - and there's a package for WP already available....

  20. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Oops. Clearing the browser cache made Mudbomb work. It shows tables and all. I feel so stupid now :(

    Xinha is better though: it is still under development, and it has more features, esp. a lovely row of table tools.

    I'll take a closer look at that etiquetags, too.

  21. h8dk97
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've tried Xinha4wp but for some reason it didn't replace the default text area in "write a post", it just added another text area below. Am I missing something?

  22. baptiste
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    h8dk97 - You need to disable 'Rich Text Editing' in both your global WordPress options AND the user profile. One of the TODO items for the plugin is to automatically disable TinyMCE when you enable Xinha4WP so you don't have to do it manually.

  23. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    This latest version of Xinha is the best -- most features, least problems in my particular setup (eventcalendar3...) -- free wysiwyg editor that I have seen. The Wysi-wordpress (Mudbomb) was nice, too.

    What I like about the Labnotes editor though, is that it uses/enhances the built in version of TinyMCE. This means that the editor plugin provided by WPG2 gallery2 plugin is usablein the Labnotes "editor". In Xinha it is not (yet, at least).

    Now I have two choices: tables (that I want) OR gallery2 integration (that would make life easier). Oh well, life was not supposed to be easy. Anyway, I have three choices and I like them all. That's good.

  24. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Finally a solution!

    1) I found this: http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=275

    2) and downloaded this: http://www.mkbergman.com/wp-content/themes/ai3/files/code/ExtendedTinyMCE.zip

    3) I then unzipped it in wp-content/plugins

    4) copied the plugin directories wp-content/plugins/plugins/* to wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins

    5) activated the new plugin

    6) Now I have TinyMCE with TABLES, subscripts, superscripts, character maps etc. and also the "insert Gallery2 image" button (that is not available in Xinha).

    This works with WordPress 2.0.5 (localized, finnish version) + event calendar 3. My browser is Firefox 2.0

    If I had not installed Gallery2, I would probably choose Xinha, though.

  25. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    ps. this is wrong: "Editor monkey does not work in WP2.0.4+". Their website states "People have reported successfully using EditorMonkey 2.5 in WordPress 2.0.5."

  26. h8dk97
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Thanks baptiste. I'll give it a try.

  27. h8dk97
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    LostInNetwork,

    I've also tried ExtendedTinyMCE, the only problem is when all the toolbars are enabled they become too long and overlap with the boxes on the right (categories, password protect post etc). Did you have this problem?
    Thanks.

  28. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    You can edit the toolbars by opening the Labnotes advanced editor plugin in a text editor. Move tools from long toolbar lines to shorter lines. It is quite easy to locate the lists and just move things around. I guess that one could add a fourth toolbar too: Look at how toolbar 3 is implemented, and make toolbar 4 and hope for the best (untested).

  29. LostInNetwork
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Also, have you tried editing the admin theme css? There must be a width there somewhere (maybe 600px or something). Make it bigger.

  30. alex_tingle
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    FCK breaks Event Calendar 3 event editor because it grabs window.onload without consideration for other code that might want to use it. FCK editor plugin needs to be fixed... here's the solution that I use: http://blog.firetree.net/2005/07/17/javascript-onload/

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