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map network installed in subdomain and with different hosts (10 posts)

  1. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I have a domain Gangleri.nl with a subfolder network.
    I have a domain Monas.nl somewhere else with no hosting.
    I created a subdomain monas.gangleri.nl and installed a new website for which I want to use Monas.nl. This now works with a simple DNS redirect, but I want monas.nl to be a 'real website', a "mapped" one. Everything I've tried in the last few weeks (301, rewrite, DNS, PHP codes) failed utterly.
    My last test is to make monas.gangleri.nl into a network and map it. That didn't work. I've created a new subsite and tried to map that one (first a subfolder subsite, then a subdomain subsite), that doesn't work either. All instructions that I find are for people having two domains from the same host. Could somebody please advice me what to do with two domains at two hosts?
    I have DNS settings for both domains, but I have no clue what I have to do and where.

    I prefer not to make a subsite to the main site and map that one. The new website allows registration so I prefer to have it as separate databases and WP files.

  2. That's not really a Multisite question as I can understand it... Do you need Monas.nl to be it's own network or just a site on your network?

    If you want separate DBs and WP files from your main site, then you should make an ADDON domain, but again, that's NOT Multisite. That's just Web stuff :)

  3. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Well, it became a multisite question :-)

    For the last couple of weeks I have tried to do this with DNS, 301, rewrite, PHP and whatnot, but everything failed (and I failed to see the logic in it all). Then somebody advised me to edit httpd.conf and then use the domain mapping plugin. I'm not allowed to do the first, but it did make me wonder if I couldn't just make a network (even when I, indeed, don't really need one for any other reason) and map it.

    So, I now have a new network installed in a subdomain of the main site (which is also a network) and am trying to map it. Since this doesn't work I just wondered if what I'm trying to do is possible.

    I'm open for other suggestions, but doesn't an Addon require both domains registered at the same host?

  4. Your question was this:

    Could somebody please advice me what to do with two domains at two hosts?

    What do you want to do?

    Do you want:

    1) To use Multisite to run both domains, via domain mapping? Keeping in mind the inherit limitations of Multisite (shared users etc).

    2) To install in an add-on domain on your first host, so it's a totally separate site and can do whatever it wants? keeping in mind this is TWO places to upgrade code?

    Because that's really a philosophical question :) You can DO either way. Doesn't really matter which, just pick the one you feel more comfortable with.

    doesn't an Addon require both domains registered at the same host?

    Yes and no. It really needs them added to the name server that runs your main install, which you can change to point wherever you want. BUT. This is true of mapping domains too!

    You have to tell (1) the domain you're mapping where it's going, and (2) the location it's being mapped TO that it's real.

    If you have a VPS or dedicated server, this is easy, you probably have your own DNS host on the server. If not, ask your webhost about how to do it. They may charge a fee to 'host' the parked/add-on domain, but then all you have to do is point the name servers to the new location, and the rest is much easier.

    (ETA: Sorting out how to map domains like this, by the way, is part of why I said this isn't a Multisite question. This is general web admin stuff.)

  5. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Mika, it is not like I want a multisite, but everything else failed. For the past weeks I have been looking around, reading tutorials, trying codes and methods, etc. and my last hope was mapping a multisite.

    I'll try your parking method, but it looks like I don't have that option at my host. Perhaps, in the end, the best way would be to just move the other domain to the same hosting company, but I started this experiment with the idea that with a little htaccess code things should work...

    Oh, no VPS, but I do have DNS settings. Not more options than add a bit of A, CNAME, MX and external host (email). Perhaps this is also why I can't get the mapping to work, since it requires "parking" too, right?

    Thanks for the help.

  6. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Ok, that's an answer. No parking at my host. I guess I'll just leave it like it is.

  7. Wow, I didn't know there were still shitty hosts that didn't let you park a domain.

    If you can't park a domain, you can't just Mapped Domains in Multisite, plain and simple.

    If you can do an ADDON domain, though, you can have multiple domains on one server account.

    (By the way, the reason I phrase things the way I do is to get you to start thinking about how it all works together ;) - If I just hand you an answer, you don't really learn what's going on, do you?)

  8. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Wow, I didn't know there were still shitty hosts that didn't let you park a domain.

    It's indeed one of those cheap hosts with wonderfull specs, but very helpfull (for example when there servers weren't ready for MySQL 5 they set up a server for WP users). I guess they just don't want people registering a 2500 MB hosting with their and have a crapload of websites running on it.

    If you can do an ADDON domain, though, you can have multiple domains on one server account.

    Nope, more domains on one account is exactly what they do not support. Unlimited databases, mailboxes and whatnot, but only one domain.

    By the way, the reason I phrase things the way I do is to get you to start thinking about how it all works together ;)

    I gathered :-)
    The thing is that I've been looking into options for about two weeks and the more I read, the less I understood it all! The last resort was mapping. My first idea was rewrite by the way (unsuccessfull). After that came a couple of others.

    Oh well, perhaps I should just move the domain or get hosting again from the other host.

  9. Unlimited databases, mailboxes and whatnot, but only one domain.

    Word of warning. There is NO SUCH THING as unlimited. Yeah, they say it, they don't mean it. There IS a limit, and you will find it one day.

    I'd move hosts, frankly.

  10. Roy
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Nah, I'm happy with this one. I've had five databases, they created a couple of MySQL5 databases for me (when their standard server didn't support MySQL5) yet, I've had several websites installed for testing, no downtime and with my low-ranking websites I'll never ever outgrow them. They offer me more than enough.

    But, the no-parking sign is the first objection :-)

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