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[resolved] Links not Changing (39 posts)

  1. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Pete,

    Amazon Affiliate Link Localizer is installed. I've cleared the cache. But still links are not changing. I've checked from both UK and FR so far.

    Can you take a look?

    There is an Amazon link from the book on the sidebar and some obvious ones in the post as well here:

    http://www.breakup-advice.org/getting-over-a-broken-heart/recovering-from-painful-end-affair

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/amazon-affiliate-link-localizer/

  2. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK once I deactivated W3 Total Cache it worked.

    So is there no way to use this with a cache? It's kind of frustrating having to choose between converting international Amazon traffic or having a reasonable site speed.

    What is people's advice on this dilemma?

  3. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm trying to sort out the same thing myself right now. I've been trying to test it using proxies in other countries, but everything just goes to the US Amazon site, even with W3TC disabled. How are you testing it for France and the UK?

  4. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    With W3TC deactivated it did work for me. So that's no longer a problem. The problem now is just that I apparently have to choose between being able to localize my links and having a cache.

    Am testing for other countries by just using proxies with IP's in those countries.

  5. mortenp13
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Pete, I was wondering whether it would be possible to choose Amazon.com as the default site for every visitor that is not from a country that has its own Amazon site. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

  6. PeteWilliams
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    BU810 - Try different caching plugins, hopefully one will be better written so that it doesn't break other plugins.

    Adventurenick - Do you have a link to your site so I can test it? If you are testing with a proxy you may well find it's giving false negatives. Other people have reported this when the plugin is actually working fine.

    Mortenp13 - At the moment if a visitor doesn't have a local store then it just keeps the link pointing to the Amazon site in the original link. So if you want it to be .com, just make sure all the links you insert point to .com. There are a couple exceptions, for example Ireland goes to UK, Austria goes to Germany, etc.

  7. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hey Pete, thanks for responding! I've tried several proxies and also had a friend in Canada test it out & they said it was still leading them to Amazon.com

    I run Cloudflare & W3TC on the site but experimented with disabling both of them as well as all the other plugins to see if there was some kind of conflict. Still no luck.

    A page on the site with several Amazon links is: http://goo.gl/9jUYr

    To BU810 - if you've gotten it working, just without running W3TC, you might be able to still use W3TC - go to the Minify settings page and scroll down to the advanced options and try adding the JS file for this plugin to the section that says Never minify the following JS files:

    Let me know if that works for you

  8. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Also Pete, do you have any proxies that you recommend for testing the plugin with other countries?

  9. PeteWilliams
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks for the tip Nick, I'll add that to the FAQ so people know how to get W3TC to behave itself. I don't tend to rely on proxies as I'm in the UK myself so can test .com links naturally.

  10. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Adventurenick, thanks for the response.

    I may have been wrong all along. I think link localizer is working even with W3 Total Cache activated. I may have been misled the whole time because when I tested it with the cache on either I got one of those odd proxies that doesn't work for the test or I didn't wait long enough for everything to load before seeing if the links changed. So I thought it didn't work. Then when I deactivated the cache it seemed to work so I thought that was the problem. But it may have just been a fluke thing in the first place.

    Anyway, at this point it seems to work with W3 Total Cache.

    I was going to set the cache not to minify the Affiliate Link Localizer js file as you said, Nick, just to be sure. But when I went into the settings there was no place to name specific js files to exclude. That's probably because this site is on an older version of WP with an older version of W3. Perhaps in newer versions of W3 there is a place to exclude specific js files. I tried to upgrade W3 and that just led to all kinds of problems. So I had to put it back to the old version of W3.

    At this point, I am pretty sure W3 is running and the link localizer is also working.

  11. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I just installed Amazon Affiliate Link Localizer on another site that has W3 Total Cache running and it does work. I am convinced that what happened was that earlier on the other site I just got a bad proxy or didn't wait long enough for everything to load so I thought the plugin failed when it actually worked. Anyway this is good news. Thanks for all your responses.

  12. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Glad to hear you got it working. Which proxy did you have success testing it with?

  13. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It's not a specific proxy. I just use torbrowser and keep refreshing identities until I get one in a country with an affiliate program and then see if the links match.

  14. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Looks like it's working on my end now, I guess some of the proxies are just so slow to load things that it took more than a few seconds for the link localizer to do its thing.

    I'm using Cloudflare on my site & W3TC - Cloudflare does the minifying though, so if anyone else is wondering if this will work with Cloudflare, the answer is apparently yes.

    Hopefully this will get some of the international traffic converting, in which case I'll buy you a few pints Pete.

  15. PeteWilliams
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hoorah, a happy ending for all :)

    Thanks for keeping us updated guys.

  16. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Since activating the plugin 2 days ago I've noticed a very, very large increase in the number of clicks going to the US Amazon site. Before using Amazon Link Localizer I was getting a few hundred clicks a day - the first day I used it, there were 900+ clicks. It looks like yesterday there were more than 2,000 clicks.

    As much as I'd love to think that my site has suddenly become the most popular thing around, the number of clicks showing up in the Amazon dashboard doesn't really match the amount of traffic the site is getting.

    Has anyone noticed this before? Any ideas what could be causing these phantom clicks?

  17. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Nick,

    I've seen the same but not on the US site. On the US site I'm seeing similar numbers still to before since activating the plugin. But, on some of the European affiliate programs and on Canada I'm suddenly seeing hundreds of clicks per day.

    I'm also very confused as to why that's happening.

    I don't know if it's a problem that we'd have trouble with in terms of being punished by the programs or kicked out. But it sure will make it impossible to accurately track conversion rates.

    I'd love to find out what is going on with these incredibly high click numbers.

  18. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Very weird indeed, glad I'm not the only one which might make it harder to figure out. The click rate showing up on amazon seems like it might actually correspond with the number of page views. I know there's no way that a few thousand people all clicked the Amazon links yesterday. It shows about 2400 clicks on the US links yesterday - the pages with the Amazon links did get around that many page loads yesterday, so could the script somehow be making a page load count as a click?

    I doubt it's actually placing an Amazon cookie on all these "clicks" since I didn't see any corresponding rise in purchases. I guess we'll see tomorrow for sure.

    Any ideas Pete? Hopefully Amazon won't think this is some effort to game the system

  19. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Nick,

    I also assumed that it must be showing clicks for impressions.

    If you look at your Amazon Associates reports you can look in more detail at things like what link types it's counting clicks on. For me, all the huge number of clicks are on the link types called "Basic Display - Detail Page." Interestingly, under impressions for this type of link it says N/A and Amazon doesn't track the impressions on this type of link unless you install a script to have it do so.

    So I wonder if, since it doesn't track impressions on these, it's just counting them as clicks instead or something.

    I'm also confused as to what these "Basic Display - Detail Page" links are. I think they may be the ones where you have a little graphic showing the product with price information under it. If so it would make sense. I have a bunch of those on one of my sites, several on some pages. So if it's just counting every load of one that could add up quickly.

    This doesn't explain why my US Amazon affiliate account is not full of these massive numbers, while others are though.

    How does this compare to the details of your situation, Nick?

  20. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Like you, I'm seeing the biggest number of clicks for Basic Display - Detail Page. There are a few Recommended Product Links banners on the site, but most of the Amazon links are in the text.

    I have another site that has a few Amazon Affiliate links on it and a separate tracking ID but isn't using the Amazon Link Localizer plugin so I looked at the separate reports for both tracking IDs and there was a huge jump in clicks that began on the 9th for both of them, so it looks like Amazon Link Localizer might not have anything to do with this odd rise in clicks.

    My small blog that isn't running this plugin went from about a dozen clicks a day to several hundred clicks a day beginning on the 9th and increasing on the 10th and 11th. Looks like maybe Amazon has just made some kind of internal change in how they calculate clicks - whatever the change is, it's very weird, since I know my small blog isn't getting much traffic at all. I will see what happens over the weekend

  21. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Sounds good. You could always contact one of the affiliate programs where it's happening too and ask.

    Another idea occurred to me. When our page loads, it first loads the American Amazon link. The plugin then takes their IP and actually goes and looks up whether the product exists and has the same ASIN in their country before deciding what link to change it to on our site. Perhaps it's these lookups by the plugin, when determining the best replacement link, that are being counted as clicks? Pete could probably say if that's a possibility.

  22. PeteWilliams
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    There are lookups made in the background but the script is meant to strip your affiliate ID out of these. Can you guys post links to the sites you're having this problem on and I'll check if that's working properly.

    I wouldn't try and contact Amazon about it, as I have no ide whether they'd approve of this script or not!

  23. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    @BU810

    could be, I just updated my previous post though because I noticed the same dramatic rise in clicks beginning on the 9th on my other site that isn't using this plugin and uses a separate tracking ID. So, perhaps it's entirely coincidental that we happened to start using Amazon Link Localizer around the same time the click numbers started climbing for no reason.

  24. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Pete, I'll email you the link to the site collecting huge numbers of clicks ok?

  25. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Pete, I'll email you the link to the site collecting huge numbers of clicks ok?

  26. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Nick,

    I can't see it being a coincidence. I've been in the Canada program for a while. Very few clicks, but a few here and there. The very day I added this plugin it immediately went up to hundreds of clicks. And also seeing all those clicks on other countries only accessed by the plugin. Meanwhile my American clicks did not go up like yours.

  27. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Wait, I just remembered. The site that is having all of these clicks is not one with the plugin but one where I used the manual javascript because it's not a WordPress site. Does that make a difference, Pete?

  28. adventurenick
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Looks like maybe some kind of glitch going on for other Amazon Associates:

    http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-associhelp&msg=42533.1&ctx=0

  29. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Very interesting. Except mine isn't double the clicks. I'm getting hundreds, even thousands of clicks on these foreign Amazon accounts where I doubt I actually had even a single click the day I just set it up. Maybe I had 1 or 2 if lucky. So even if some people are seeing a weird glitch with double, that wouldn't come close to explaining this extreme.

  30. BU810
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Uh oh. In the thread Nick linked to someone said in the Euro programs if you drop under 1% conversion you get kicked out of the program. Well with these hundreds of clicks out of nowhere, there's no chance I'll get even close to 1%. I hope this isn't true.

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