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Kubrick error (25 posts)

  1. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I've got the 2.0 beta installed and I have only found one problem - so far - is that the footer in the default theme is squint, ie not aligned properly with the rest of the page

  2. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Which browser? Fine here with FF 1.5RC3....

  3. uberwerks
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Not having that problem either. IE 6, FF 1.0.7 and 1.5RC3

  4. I don't see that problem either. FF v1.0.7

  5. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    FF v1.5RC3. I've uploaded a screenshot to my wordpress.com account so you can see what I mean. However the problem has NOTHING to do with wordpress.com (I put the image there for bandwidth reasons), the problem is on my wp2.0 blog on my own server - I've tried the usual tricks (Ctrl+Reload, clear cache etc.) and they don't seem to make a difference.

  6. uberwerks
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    AH! Wow...that's crazy. I'm not sure it matters in this case or not, but have you executed /wp-admin/upgrade.php?

    Also, is this an upgrade or a fresh intsall?

  7. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    It's an upgrade (from the latest 1.5.x version, whatever that is) and I ran upgrade.php after copying the files over HOWEVER I deleted all the old version files (keeping the 1.5.x database) before uploading the new stuff

  8. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    [EDITED] Sorry for double post. Damn sensitive touchpad.

  9. But, the real question is, why does it display incorrectly in your FF v1.5RC3, but not in vkaryl's and uberwerks's? Would you mind temporarily turning off all or your extensions and switching to FF's default theme? Remember to clear your cache too. That's about all that I can think of that may make your FF v1.5RC3 different from vkaryl's and uberwerks's.

  10. ifelse
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Once again, I'm not noticing any such issues in any of my browsers (IE6/XP, FF/XP or Safari/OSX). This appears to be a caching issue.

    If a CTRL+F5 doesn't work (and you've verified in other machines/browser and you've also deleted your webcache, it may be at an ISP/proxy server level.

  11. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Well, mine's NOT running the default FF theme, though. Not sure if that would matter.... I have the aquatint theme running....

  12. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I was using the iFox theme, but removing all extensions and switching to the default theme does not seem to have made a difference - I've also just tested it in IE 6 and it works fine. Also, a reinstall of Firefox (from a clean installer download) didn't make any difference.

  13. I suggest that you add a comment to this Firefox bug report:

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295627

    (Though, I still don't know why vkaryl and uberwerks aren't seeing the problem.)

  14. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Tonight, when I looked back, I can see a little jog in the footer. Probably I was earlier looking for something much more obvious. Looks like about 3 pixels is all, and I wouldn't probably have noticed it had my screen res not still been sitting at 800x600 (for some tweaking I'd been doing). So then of course, I can see it at higher resolutions as well, since I now know what I'm looking for.

    I actually don't have any bright ideas.... I don't mess with kubrick EVER.

  15. Then I highly suggest that you all submit comments to that bug report. I don't use betas and RCs anymore, so I can't verify the bug in FF 1.5RC3, but I can tell you that his footer looks perfect in FF 1.0.7. If you have FF 1.5RC3, and see the problem in Mr. Cynical's footer, you should add a comment to that report. This bug needs to be fixed before FF 1.5 goes final.

  16. jasoomian
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I have this problem as well, except mine only does it on the 'Pages' page (it works fine for archives, search, whatever.) The page seems to load fine and when it gets to the part where it actually displays the footer, it jogs a little to the side. Where your seems to just squint the actual footer, mine goes for the header. Very annoying. Annoying to the point where I just removed the <?php get_footer(); ?> (sp?)function from the template page. I see it in just IE, haven't tried it yet with FireFox.

    Since I had modified the theme so much, I had thought that it was my own doing; good to know someone else has the same problem so at least now I know that I'm not going crazy.

    I added the function back in, just in case someone wanted to see what I was talking about. Check out anything listed under the TimeKillers (actually the Pages) section.

    website: http://www.geekweekonline.com

  17. jasoomian
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Well, just for my own enjoyment, I went ahead and installed the newest FireFox and I do not get this problem with FireFox 1.07, I only seem to get it with IE 6. So I got that going for me.

  18. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    That is significant - if you are getting it in IE then it is a WordPress problem and not a Firefox one.

  19. No, I think that Jasoomian's problem is a separate issue. Otherwise, Mr. Cynical, you would see your problem in IE. But, Jasoomian sees his problem in IE, not in Firefox. And, you see your problem in Firefox, not in IE.

    Jasoomian, in order to avoid confusion, I recommend that you open a new thread for your issue.

  20. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I couldn't find the issue Jasoomian was talking about in my IE, but his site is in fact affected by the Firefox bug we've been discussing.

    EDIT: This is a WORDPRESS BUG (in the Kubrick theme). Here's the extract from the CSS that is causing the problem:
    #footer {
    padding: 0 0 0 1px;
    margin: 0 auto;
    width: 760px;
    clear: both;
    }

    That '1px' is what is causing the shift - and Firefox shifting the footer is actually correct behaviour. The reason it doesn't occur in IE is because IE doesn't fully conform to the CSS standard (as we all know) and just ignores the shift.

  21. plucky
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Setting the padding to 1px is a workaround for a bug in IE. Fox 1.0.x copes with that workaround. Fox 1.5 doesn't.

    If you set the padding to 0, the theme will look fine in Fox but have a similar pixel shift issue in IE.

    You can find more detail (including a workaround) in this thread
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/35741

  22. Mr_Cynical
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    It isn't a matter of Firefox 'coping' - Firefox complies with the CSS specification, so Firefox is in the right. It's a bug because the code does not display a proper footer when interpreted according to the W3C standard.

  23. pixxel
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    It's squarely an IE problem. I think Microsoft will be a thousand-year appendix to the history of computing, but it's like the choam corporation or something. I think the real future is opensourced, and DVORAK keyboarded. That aside.. while we're talking hacks, here's a doozie (that I'm actually using!)

    #footer {
    position: expression("relative");
    left:expression("1px");
    }

    this way IE evaluates these expressions.. but the rest of the browsers (and someone please correct me!) just ignore it.

  24. pixxel
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    THe remaining prevailing opinion is to use code that is instead invisible to internet explorer:

    thus:

    #footer {
    padding: 0 0 0 1px;
    margin: 0 auto;
    width: 760px;
    clear: both;
    }
    body > #footer {
    padding: 0;
    }

    as indicated. here: here

    I do believe this may be the futureproof.. in the event that expressions will be incorporated into css sometime in the future. but the pendulum could swing both ways I feel at times.. if ie adopts firefox' features or firefox ie's. or maybe not. who really remembers any more. so which is better.. is this problem reducible to css expressions yay or nay?

    What is the consensus here? But then again we may argue for javascript to lay browser-specific css or no?

    If I liken microsoft to the choam commpany it is only as a pleasantly romantic notion.

  25. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Thanks to Jeremy Visser for making up a .diff with my supplied fixes for that issue. =) I attached the .diff to ticket #1941 in the trac.

    http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/1941
    http://trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/1941/fixedkubrickfix.diff

    Demo of the "fixes" in action on a Plain Jane Default 1.5 theme, here at my Demo blog.

    http://www.vindictivebastard.net/kubrickfixed/

    If someone could modify the files, that would be awesome! =) Hopefully this gets added in before 2.0.4 is released. ;)

    Also, I have the "Fixes" for that same header/footer shift for while viewing it in IE7, so when that get's officially released, Jeremy can just make up another .diff then, containing those fixes for IE7.

    spencerp

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