1) Make the main page so that when a post is commented on, it moves to the top again?
2) Show the users currently online?
Thanks
Is there a way to do these two things? (20 posts)
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leroyleroux
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kding
Posted 5 years ago #There are plugins for this:
2) Show the users currently online? -
Posted 5 years ago #Any help on where to find them (I'm searching now)?
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1. I don't think so - at least I've never heard of anything like that. However, there are plugins to show the recently commented posts, e.g. in the sidebar. You should serach the Plugins page in the Codex.
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spencerp
Posted 5 years ago #Useronline One here:
http://www.lesterchan.net/portfolio/programming.php
(Other ones like this, out there as well.)Plugin Name: Get Recent Comments
http://blog.jodies.de/archiv/2004/11/13/recent-comments/Hope this helps a little bit. =) The second one is basically what moshu was referring to, I think. :/
spencerp
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Not exactly. I was thinking about the recently commented posts to be listed.
Like with this plugin:
http://www.coffee2code.com/archives/2004/08/27/plugin-customizable-post-listings/ -
Posted 5 years ago #Oh ok.. =) Mmm..might just check into that one myself then. Thanks for posting the link moshu. =) *Bookmarked it now.*
spencerp
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I use Brian's Latest Comments to display the latest comments that have been made.
I don't think the original poster has really thought through the disorder created if a blog dynamically orders posts by latest comments. Who would wade through all the chaos to find new material? ;-)
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Posted 5 years ago #I guess I don't get your meaning WarAxe...by bumping posts that had recent comments to the top, one could quickly locate the ones that others are interested in, and the others would drop off of the page.
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Posted 5 years ago #"I don't think the original poster has really thought through the disorder created if a blog dynamically orders posts by latest comments. Who would wade through all the chaos to find new material? ;-)"
So true WarAxe. =) Even though the first idea sounds nice, just wouldn't be a good thing on the index page. :/ Maybe would be better on a separate page for such a thing though. =)
Kinda like having a Recently Commented Post Page, dedicated to just that, and some how have every post WITHIN the whole blog, go to that page, and bumped to the top when someone replies to that "specific" post.
Then atleast all those posts are on a specific page.. or something, so it doesn't clutter the index page for visitors.
But then again, that page or pages would almost have to have some "limit" set to I suppose.. I'm just throwing out random thoughts on this. =) The whole idea sounds cool really.. =)
spencerp
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Posted 5 years ago #Well, thanks I guess.
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Posted 5 years ago #@leroyleroux, your welcome. =) I wasn't necessarily degrading your thoughts and ideas on this. I kinda think it would be a cool idea also.
Just would have to have it all on another page maybe, rather then the index page. I'll edit my above post a little bit quick..and not make it sound so semi-belittling.
spencerp
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Spencer :: Yeah... don't be sop quasi-belittling. The Diet Coke of belittling. :-) No, really, you had some good suggestions. A seperate page would be better.
leroyleroux :: Seriously now... you're probably new. Now imagine down the road you have a blog with a hundred posts. I visit and have no idea what's new or what's where... because every time someone comments the order of your index page posts change?! Holy smokes... think about this. I may read a post I see, then want to go back and read the next one (because it looked interesting) only to find it gone because it got pushed down by "new" posts from months ago!? And I think I already read them but I'm not sure... perhaps I don't realize I've already read them until I get halfway through them and then I'm annoyed.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a cool add-on on a seperate page or something. I just think your readers will be better served by leaving the index page organized in a non-random order (reverse chronological works best).
If you want people to see what posts are generating the most interest you can do this with the plugin I mentioned before. Check out my site to see this in action... it'll be on the right labelled Latest Comments.
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Posted 5 years ago #WarAxe, very well put! =) Couldn't have said it better myself, but then again I wouldn't have posted it because I'm too lazy haha. =)
"Spencer :: Yeah... don't be sop quasi-belittling. The Diet Coke of belittling. :-)"
Haha, yeah..smacks mouth..[bad spencer, bad bad!] lol! =)
spencerp
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Posted 5 years ago #Well, I can take my cyber-a-whooping like a man.
I hope you had fun.
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Dgold
Posted 5 years ago #I don't get why people on this forum like to tell others how they should use their blog. Not everyone just has a typical diary type of blog, there are other uses for WordPress. When this forum just answers the technical question, then diverse people can perform diverse tasks they desire, with this awesomely flexible software. WordPress, actually, is a tool to display a database on the web. It's not always an ordinary blog.
Virtually all Forums work in this way: the most recently commented discussion is moved automatically to the top. Even with 1000's of posts, this functionality is useful in some settings.
If WP cannot accomplish this, perhaps you could use Forum software for your site instead (example, phpBB).
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Posted 5 years ago #WarAxe and I were merely trying to help him understand that doing this: "1) Make the main page so that when a post is commented on, it moves to the top again?", might potentially lose his readers and just clutter up the index page, with all the posts mostly replied to.
Rather then viewing "NEW" posts that he makes, and then makes it harder on ppl to find them. We weren't really trying to tell him how to run his own blog persay, just were pointing out that, doing that might not be the best thing to do. =)
And he can and still could do whatever he wants with his own blog. =) It don't matter to me, really WarAxe and I said that idea is cool and would be a nice feature. But maybe just have it on another page, so the index page is left open for newest posts.
Could even have the index page into two sections or
<divs>really. Have the top section for new posts and the lower half for Recently Commented On Posts. That would be awesome to. Just maybe have it so those posts aren't full versions, but partial. Mmm..that's sounds good, might try it myself then once. =)Dgold, what you had pointed out is also good. =) There a good number of ppl on the web using just ONLY Forum Softwares for the websites. =) I had done this before also. Well, it's up to him really.. =)
spencerp
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I do agree with Dgold.
Also, it is a challenging idea.
I bookmarked it myself for thinking over. -
I agree with Spencer. He worded it very well and used enough smileys that only those with the tightest of orifices could take offense. ;-)
Also, I might mention to DGold and leroyleroux (both without site links) that not including a link to your blog leaves others who you are looking for help from to sometimes make assumptions and guesses about where you're coming from.
Also again, don't confuse a blog with a forum. They are different beasts. Their human-machine interface is (or rather should be) different. A blog does not usually make for a good forum. I hate to do this, but take WordPress.org for instance... this support section is really used as a forum, but in a blog format... IMHO, it is not the correct solution.
Forum software usually lists MANY threads going on and they are usually in order of when they were started. This has a few benefits. If you are returning to a specific thread you can remember when abouts it falls in the timeline so you can find it again. Have you ever tried finding a previous thread here with search? :-) Good luck. And if you return to a forum thread it usually has a marker indicating it has new content... which for forum threads is easier than marking threads with new content by physically moving their position. Moving blog posts around to show activity only confuses the matter. Posts that could be very valuable are susceptible to being pushed into irrelevency by newer ones, and the older valuable posts become lost. I see this time and again on this site, as well as a hoard or others. This is part of the reason why people ask the same questions over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over....
Forum software sometimes allows the ability to reorder comments in the threads by search relevancy, commenter rating, value points awarded, and some other ways. Not usually blogging software... but that's fine because that's not what blogs are for. A blog... short for Weblog (coined many years ago by some guy who now doesn't have a lot of money - seriously), is a different entity with a different user paradigm from a forum... with different purposes and different use-case models.
Forum software works poorly for a blog, and blogging software works poorly for a forum. If you want to get sketchy and claim that modifications and subtle user interface customizations could turn a blogging software (like WordPress) into a forum-viable platform, then I would suggest that you are merely using the generic database query engine as a back-tier and rewriting the blog software to instead act as a forum front-tier. Basically, coding forum software into a blog so it's no longer a blog. So in essence you aren't using the blogging software anymore for your forum. Otherwise, any solution requiring text entries could use blogging software... CMS, Forums, B2Bs, and the list goes on.
I know that a person does not need a master's degree in IT to understand this... but mine sure helps me. :-)
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Posted 5 years ago #Hahaha...yeah I did try to be nice about it lol. =) That is hard for me to do sometimes though lol! Thanks for your support and lengthy post on this WarAxe. =)
I know they have the Codex and all for people to use, but too bad they didn't do something like phpBB.com did and make a forum or knowledge base for posts that have those certain problems along with their fixes right in there.
Then people could just browse through that forum and find a title of the post similiar with their problem or even spot on it. Then they could just read that thread for the fixes. =) I dunno though...might be asking too much I guess to.. :/
spencerp
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