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  1. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    This is pretty bizarre... Basically all the plugins from my plugins menu have disappeared... This has happened a couple of times before immediately following activating a plugin, in which case I simply deleted the plugin (causing WP to automatically deactivate it and restore my plugins menu). This time however, I haven't activated any plugins, I merely uploaded one to the plugins directory (without activating it). I did rename its folder, but it hasn't solved this issue.

    Has anyone had experience with this issue before?

    Cheers :-)

  2. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I hate to bang on about this, but it's seriously holding me back now. Short of removing all plugins from the plugins directory (effectively deactivating all of them), then using the process of elimination technique to find out which one (if any) is causing this issue, which would set me back a couple of weeks and cost me a fortune in the process (I've set up a whole range of different back & front end plugins...and I can only access my accounts via a local cafe).

    I tried deleting the one plugin I'd uploaded that day, but nothing changed, and I didn't activate any which makes this a completely random incident.

    If anyone knows (or even has a slight idea) how to resolve this, please reply!

  3. whooami
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I hate to bang on about this, but it's seriously holding me back now. Short of removing all plugins from the plugins directory (effectively deactivating all of them), then using the process of elimination technique to find out which one (if any) is causing this issue, which would set me back a couple of weeks and cost me a fortune in the process (I've set up a whole range of different back & front end plugins...and I can only access my accounts via a local cafe

    ok, i feel your "pain" 'cept there's no panacea -- standard troubleshooting with wordpress and especially any plugin issues involves disabling plugins and reactivating them one by one. And anyway, I'm skeptical about the fortune bit -- :P

    where is the blog that you are having this trouble with, specifically, whats the url without any odd redirection going on, that is being used as a result of having a free host?

    I ask that because in an early thread on here you link to blog that appears to load another blog hosted with a free host.

    Free hosts suck, btw, you GET what you PAY for.

  4. iridiax
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Short of removing all plugins from the plugins directory (effectively deactivating all of them), then using the process of elimination technique to find out which one (if any) is causing this issue, which would set me back a couple of weeks and cost me a fortune in the process...

    If it is due to a plugin, then this is the best way to find to culprit. It should not take too long unless you have a huge number of plugins (a bad idea in itself). Since plugins can conflict with each other, become outdated and abandoned, or even sometimes corrupt WordPress files (it's happened to me and I had to reinstall), it's best to minimize their use. Never install more than one plugin at a time and always check your site after doing so.

  5. whooami
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Gotta love that solidarity :)

  6. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Thanks for replying guys.

    First off, the fortune bit is absolutely true, it's an expensive cafe, but unfortunately the only one close enough not to involve travelling expenses.

    Secondly, I wouldn't ever install/activate more than one plugin at a time, I do excerise common sense :-p And I usually spend an hour or so working with a plugin after activating it, making sure it does what I want it to as well as making doubly sure that it doesn't conflict with any other activated plugin. So far my efforts have made sure that plugins don't cause errors on my blog.

    And yes, I'm currently using a free host for my blog, although I've yet to see any other blogs open with it (unless there was an error on the address you tried to access). Once I'm able to I will be moving it to a commercial host.

    The blog itself runs perfectly, it's the backend which is the problem, I simply uploaded a plugin (via my hosts CP) and suddenly all the plugins (activated and non-activated) have disappeared from the page. I'm not convinced it's caused by plugin, at least not directly, which is why I haven't gone through the whole process mentioned above.

    http://weareblogging.0fees.net/blogs/waw_blog/

    I was curious if this had happened before, as there doesn't appear to be a specific cause.

  7. whooami
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    ok, well youre not going to like my advice.

    http://weareblogging.0fees.net/blogs/waw_blog/wp-content/plugins/

    inevitably.

    judging by this, you have a plugin conflict.

    furthermore, you have at least one plugin thats causing white space at the top of your site. Its in the source, not the design.

  8. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Aside from the potential security issues (which I'm ashamed to say I overlooked, but have now addressed) posed by the bare-nakedness of the directory structure, I'm struggling to see where the plugin conflict shows up on your computer. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you taking the time to try to help, but I'm just not seeing what you see.

    Also, on the blog itself, there are no white areas showing up, at the top or anywhere else, via desktop browsers (I've viewed it in IE, FireFox and Avant - which runs on the IE platform). However, on my mobile phone the RSS Feed link does appear at the very top of the screen (since it's self-contained, it does create a white line across the top of the screen, but...), this is a feature of the theme I'm currently using and has been in place since I started using the theme (long before this issue popped up).

    I'll resign myself to sluggin' through the elimination process, but I'd be really surprised that a plugin can cause such an issue on the backend of a blog.

  9. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Ended up having to complete erase my MySQL database (effectively re-setting my blog installation), as the proposed "rename/delete a plugin and it will be automatically deactivated" technique didn't work... When I tried this I received a 500 Internal Server Error on the backend, and the entire front-end of my blog disappeared. I'm going to have to start over again (this time I'll be backing up the database on a daily basis).

    I'm still not convinced it's solely caused by a plugin, I feel there may be a wordpress-side bug which is the underlying cause of this, I guess only time (and bug-fix updates) will tell...

    I've also decided to use a different theme, although it means having to almost completely re-design it, it's definitely a far superior theme to the one I've been using.

  10. whooami
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    When I tried this I received a 500 Internal Server Error on the backend,

    of course you did. that could have been solved. thats why "resetting your mysql database" worked. There are plugin options in the database -- those were all you needed to address.

    and the entire front-end of my blog disappeared.

    of course it did. thats because you had customized your theme, adding plugin code. Thats fixed my changing to the default theme, and what I mentioned above.

    I'm struggling to see where the plugin conflict shows up on your computer.

    nothing shows up on my computer. I looked at your plugins, I read the readmes. There was more than one "lets mess with the wordpress admin area" plugin in that directory. The very first step in debugging anything like what you describe is disabling your plugins.

    Why?

    Because without doing so, you cannot possibly conclude this,

    I feel there may be a wordpress-side bug which is the underlying cause of this

    Why?

    Because history has proven that 99.99999% of user issues lie with a plugin.

    Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you taking the time to try to help, but I'm just not seeing what you see.

    Ive been on these forums for 4+ years, its experience.

    --

    It's unfortunate that you didnt come back, update the situation, and wait for a reply from someone. Hopefully you made a backup of your current db before removing it. In which case, at least, you arent really "starting over".

  11. LJagermaster
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Forgive me for not going overboard with quotes, as you have done, but to set the record straight...

    Yes, I had a number of back-end plugins uploaded to the plugins directory, but only two were activated when this occurred. One was the Insights plugin, which is only applicable to the Post section, the other was the Role Manager plugin... These plugins do not conflict with each other, and they have been active for several weeks (I activated them both within the same week) without causing any kind of issue whatsoever.

    The only "why" would be if these were the cause, then "why" did they take several weeks to cause an issue? Common sense (which for the record is correct 99.99999% of the time)would strongly suggest that there is another reason, and since neither of us can say with 100% certainty what it is, then this would be an appropriate to bring this discussion to an end.

    I do appreciate you trying to help, I believe your initial intentions were good ones, but please spare me the cynicism of your previous post (you displayed a classic example of "experience breeding arrogance").

    Thanks :-)

    Oh, and just to clarify, I neglected to mention (purely by accident) that not only did the plugins disappear from the page, all interactive aspects were also hidden, therefore disabling any plugins via the admin area simply was not possible. If it was then I wouldn't even have had to create this thread as I'm perfectly aware of how to resolve plugin conflicts (which don't involve the ability to deactivate plugins being unavailable).

  12. Njualem
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Hi Guys,

    I have a problem with my entire website. I am using WordPress Mu 2.7.1 and I installed the WP-Options-Manager Plugin to clean up deprecated Plugin options from my data base. It worked well when I started using it in one of my WPMU Blogs but later I noticed that there was this warning message displaying at the bottom of my blog.

    Warning: file_put_contents(/home/content/n/j/c/njcqi150209/html/wp-content/plugins/wp-options-manager/../../uploads/.wpom.dat) [function.file-put-contents]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/content/n/j/c/njcqi150209/html/wp-content/plugins/wp-options-manager/wp_options_manager.php on line 839

    I could not understand exactly what it was all about but then I thought activating the Plugin on the WPMU Main Blog could solve the problem so I did just that and then came the catastrophe.

    On the WPMU main blog, I noticed that the Plugin was not functioning well so I went back to the Blog I first installed the Plugin to check-out its behavior but unfortunately I had a NO PAGE FOUND screen. Both the front-end and the back-end of all of my other Blogs display a NO PAGE FOUND screen as well but the WPMU Main Blog is not affected.

    I tried uninstalling the Plugin and removing it entirely from my WordPress Plugins directory but to no avail, the damage had already been done. I guess its now a more serious database problem and I really don't know where to start from. I have no experience on dealing with database which is why I went for a Plugin to do the job.

    I am in a fixed now, since I had only made backup just for the first Blog I started from and now I risk losing my entire site because the other Blogs don't have up to date backups.

    Please can any one point me to the right direction?

    Thanks for your suggestions.

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