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importing Blogger blogs into Earthlink WordPress & other basic Qs (22 posts)

  1. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Earthlink now enables the easy creation of blogs us9ing WordPress . . . from scratch. I have a few basic questions before I proceed further.

    (1) The blog that Earthlink creates ends up in a subdirectory strcutured as follows:

    http://www.domainname.org/wordpress/

    Is there a way to put it into another subdirectory?

    (2) How does one create multiple blogs on one's site?

    (3) With multiple blogs, what would their subdirectories look like? [See (1) above.]

    (4) Earthlink is working with WordPress 2.0.4. Do I have to upgrade to the current version of WordPress to make the following work?

    (5) I want to import an existing blog content with its structure into my newly created empty WordPress blog. My blog was created with Blogger. The additional complication is that the blog has been published on my site, which means I have to follow the instructions on importing NEW BLOGGER to Word Press at:

    http://www.romantika.name/v2/2007/01/31/import-new-blogger-to-wordpress/

    PLUS republish my blog on the blogger site to make the conversion work.

    I'm willing to give the conversion a shot, but I want to make sure I know what I'm doing first. So is there anything else I should know?

  2. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    1 Moving_WordPress

    2 Installing_Multiple_Blogs

    3 see 2

    4/5 No clue, I'm afraid.

  3. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    (1) I don't find the instructions on either page crystal clear, at least not for novices. Am I to understand that a separate installation for each blog means all the WordPress core files will be duplicated in the directory of each blog?

    (2) On the Moving WordPress page, there is an option to have the WordPress files in their own directory with the blog in the root directory. Does this mean that the blog cannot be placed in any other directory than the root directory?

  4. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    1) Correct. Perhaps you'd be interested in WordPress mu?

    2)

    Does this mean that the blog cannot be placed in any other directory than the root directory?

    Nope!

  5. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    (1) This may not be terribly necessary, as my blog sizes are small. Does Word Press Mu cost money, and does Earthlink support it?

    (2) It's probably a moot point now, but "Nope" means that WordPress files can go in the WordPress directory and the actual blog CAN go in a subdirectory that is NOT the WORDPRESS directory and NOT in the ROOT directory?

    Anyway, I'm trying to keep it simple for now, but my problem is that I only have a home page; the archival permalink structure doesn't exist; that is, the permalinks from the home page don't work, as there are no files to link to.

  6. drmike
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Earthlink is only doing 2.0.4? Sounds like them to do something broken like that. *sigh*

    5) We just had the new blogger import come down the pipe in WordPress Multiuser. They have it installed over at wordpress.com. You may want to import it and export it over there. That will get you an *.xml file that you can import at earthlink. You'll need a plugin though since you're only at 2.0.4.

    Handy, do you have that plugin link nearby? I'm on a locked down public term with only one browser window today.

  7. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    1) mu is free, see the link for host requirements.

    2) correct. If you want to make it complicated and confusing, you can. :-)

    Anyway, I'm trying to keep it simple for now, but my problem is that I only have a home page; the archival permalink structure doesn't exist; that is, the permalinks from the home page don't work, as there are no files to link to.

    Are Permalinks working and supported by your host?

  8. anearthling
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I cooked up an unofficial how-to to manually install WordPress on an EarthLink hosting account, without the use of the easy install, which would allow you to put it in the directory of your choice:

    http://blogs.earthlink.net/2007/02/how_to_manually_install_wordpr_1.php

  9. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I was going to ask which version of Word Press to use to follow up on these various suggestions. I'm told that earthlink supports only support WordPress 2.0.4. Does anyone know the consequences of this?

  10. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    2.0.4 supposedly had some security problems. Hard to say for sure, since every time the dev releases a new incremental it always ref's "security problems".

    There's really no reason you couldn't go ahead and have EL set up 2.0.4 and then upgrade, is there? Or don't they allow that? Possible I suppose, which is a good reason for not ever using an ISP as a web host.

  11. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Earthlink live help was totally useless. I got no answers to any of my questions. I should have followed up on the first question to get a more precise answer: Earthlink doesn't SUPPORT later versions of WordPress, but does that mean they won't work?

    My main problem now is that I can't get the PERMALINKS TO FUNCTION.

  12. elnkhostingpm
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    EarthLink's servers do support the installation of later versions of WordPress, including the new 2.1. The link from anearthling above gives instructions on how to install that version including specific instructions for EarthLink.

  13. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I appreciate this. But now the question is, if I go through all this, am I going to get working Permalinks?

  14. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Not if, as with other ISP hosting conglomerates, they don't allow you to manipulate the .htaccess file.

  15. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Well, we have troubleshooting info over on the Permalinks page. Is Earthlink hosting on apache or IIS?

    Do they have mod_rewrite and AllowOverride on and enabled?

    Those would be places to start, I reckon.

  16. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    whoops! Just read vkaryl's entry. Earthlink doesn't allow .htaccess changing? That'll kibosh pretty permalinks pretty quickly.

  17. anearthling
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hey RD, I answered your above questions over here. Those instructions include how to change your .htaccess file, but I would only recommend doing that after doing a manual install. The easy install is meant to work without changing anything, so it's not as flexible as doing your own install. FWIW, in the tests I did to write the how-to, permalinks did work fine after a manual install of 2.0.4 (edit: I believe that was version 2.1 we worked with, in fact).

  18. elnkhostingpm
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    EarthLink does allow you to manipulate your .htaccess file. The File Manager even allows you to add common directives without knowing the exact code to do so.

    However, mod_rewrite is not enabled so you'll need to use the workaround prescribed by WordPress of adding /index.php to your Permalink structure if you're using anything other than the default.

  19. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I need to know exactly where to find the WORKAROUND and WHICH SPECIFIC PROCEDURE to follow to allow the creation of pretty permalinks on EARTHLINK. I find this material very confusing.

    In the meantime, I have succeeded in effecting a SECOND WordPress installation for a second blog, this time using WordPress 2.1.

    My first blog was installed using WordPress 2.0.4. What is the most efficient way for me to upgrade to WordPress 2.1. I don't have to delete the entire blog and start over, do I?

  20. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Well, anearthling and elnkhostingpm indicate that using .htaccess is possible (I simply said "if" EL didn't allow it - I didn't know positively since I wouldn't touch them with the proverbial.... and the friend who had EL wasn't the .htaccess savvy type at all so no point in asking her even if she was still with them) - but without mod_rewrite you're stuck with the sucky "index.php" version of permalinks which is (in my personal view which is of little moment of course) even less pretty than the default.

    Apparently you should be able to upgrade direct from 2.0.4 to 2.1 - but be sure you make redundant backups first!

  21. rd0709
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I am not worried about the upgrade at this point but I am concerned about the lack of clarity about the instructions for enabling permalinks. It is important to be clear and explicit when advising users not steeped in this subject matter, since we're already suffering plenty trying to decipher incomprensible tools. I notice on the Permalinks page there are instructions for "Almost pretty permalinks" and really "pretty permalinks". I'd like the really pretty permalinks if they can be had by a workaround. But I need clear, precise instructions, leaving nothing to the imagination.

  22. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Okay, I can see how you'd feel that way.... but I can't help you with earthlink anything. Hopefully there will be someone else around here who can.

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