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  1. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I trust you are blocking their IP ?
    And informing their host ?

  2. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well I have only just noticed and I do not not really know what to do. Oddly if you click the comments it takes you to my own blog (traffic of sorts). They are not linking to any images. But they are calling from my mysql. Is it safe? How can I block an IP ? And how do I know who is the host?

  3. MarkMichon
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    should start off with a nice "I have all your information you little..." type post just to see if it scares them off.

  4. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    p2mag.com has address 66.226.80.22
    whois p2mag.com:
    Domain name: p2mag.com
    Administrative Contact:
    Jim Kerr (KUGNY) jakedfw@swbell.net
    Alternative Radio Content
    6035 Vanderbilt Avenue
    Dallas, TX 75206
    United States
    Phone: (214) 3705543
    Technical Contact:
    Cedant Web Hosting (54FDP) support@CEDANT.COM
    Cedant Web Hosting
    216 F Street PMB49
    Davis, CA 95616
    United States
    Phone: 530 753 3787
    Record last updated on 2003-05-19 00:00:00
    Record created on 2003-05-19 00:00:00
    Record expires on 2005-05-20 00:00:00
    Domain servers in listed order:
    ns.cedant.com 216.55.153.2
    ns2.cedant.com 66.226.78.2
    Registration Service Provider: CEDANT
    support@cedant.com

  5. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    They are stealing bandwidth.
    That MUST be against the hosts AUP.

  6. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Change your mysql password ...... and ask the host how on earth that information was discovered ??

  7. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well I am on live chat with cedant now.

  8. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well the posts are not really being linked live at all. They have just lifted the index. The comments link back to my own blog they are not being called. This is wierd. They are not connected to mysql really. They have just nicked my index file. But it is not much use to them. But they have gone to some trouble with a new head graphic and moving to a lh menu. I am not sure that any good or harm is actually occuring. But I am checking closely. Thanks.

  9. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I just posted a comment from their blog ..... Post title '404 push'
    If it lands with you, which it does........ then to me that's BW theft.
    Good luck :)

  10. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well it hit me.But the comment was actually put in by you on my blog. BUT they have got WP installed. Try and login.

  11. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Hmm........ couldn't....
    Still think Cedant could do a whole lot more though.

  12. serendipity
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yikes. It might well be a very stupid way to get a cool template and design for a budding site. But this doesn't make it any less identity theft. The bandwidth issue is one thing -- I'm not quite sure, they might just as well be doing no more than linking to you. But what's without any doubt a huge no-no is the fact that they are a) redistributing your copyrighted material without your permission and b) committing plagiarism by pretending to be the authors of the material. What do Cedant say to that? They need to tell off the owners and be prepared to pull the plug after due warning; from their Acceptable Use Policy, which is here:

    Unacceptable Content
    All services provided by Cedant Web Hosting may be used for lawful purposes only. Transmission, storage, or presentation of any information, data or material in violation of any United States Federal, State or City law is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to: copyrighted material, material we judge to be threatening or obscene, or material protected by trade secret and other statute.

    If you don't have any progress to report soon, I'm going to write a polite email to abuse@cedant.com myself. If several of us do this (no invective, please!), they might just wake up.

  13. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thank you all for your interest, useful info and support. I am preparing carefully my email to cedant, with the appropriate care, courtesy, and a concise statement of the facts. This may be a case where a few minutes, pause for rational and considered thinking is best but my missive to cedant will be going shortly. I have already emailed the admin contact and editor for P2 asking for their proposals.
    No reply yet. Full details will be on my blog.

  14. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Ah. The plot thickens. In breach of the requirements for domain registration the admin contact for p2 one Mr Jim Kerr provided by anon above does not exist . We are on good ground now.

  15. serendipity
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    It might be this Jim Kerr. Alternative Radio Content seems pretty defunct now. Maybe he's looking for an alternative venture.
    Oh, and don't forget, they're still asleep over in California. Not only Mr Kerr, but also anyone with the authority to tap him on this greedy fingers.

  16. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Tx for that. Complaint now lodged with cedant. Further e to Jim Kerr to follow.

  17. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well if you have anything of mine which is being published on the internet I would be very grateful if you would go and delete it straight away. Particularly if it has my design credit on it and has not been licensed for your use.

  18. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well I think you were trivialising and unfairly representing the substance of my complaint. This is not and never has been about *design theft*. This is completely different. Surely you can see that? Or not?

  19. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    from whatiscopyright.org:

    Anybody who uses, copies or distributes my material in any manner, for commercial or personal purposes, without my written permission, would be committing an infringement of my copyright. If I, at any moment, detect a violation of my copyright by another individual or entity, I am entitled to assert a claim. It doesn't matter if you are a "newbie" or if you "don't know any better". As a principle of law states: "Ignorance of the Law does not make one exempt from compliance thereof."

    I am surprised that someone as obviously erudite as Beel would be ignorant of these matters.

  20. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well the *owner* and I are now in communication. Thank you.

  21. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    you are so fucking lame, get over it, the nature of the web is that you can copy any web page and use it as a basis for yours. It can't and shouldn't be stopped. Now if they deploy YOUR EXACT code or design on a commercial site LIVE, that's one thing, but you're making a big deal out of nothing and a fool out of yourself.

  22. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    If you read my first post you would realise this has nothing to do with design or code. Everything on my site is up for grabs. You may not have grasped fully, all the issues but thank you for your input.

  23. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Anon, I think you missed the point, and there's no need for that kind of attitude or language. The point wasn't so much the design as it was the fact that it *still* contained the content. Root even said so. It's considered copyrighted material, is marked as such, and from the sounds of things, no attempt was made to denote where it came from.
    Secondly, if the design was something that had been bought and paid for by Root, and he has the license (authority) to use it, that doesn't give someone else the right to just rip it off w/o proper citations. I mean, that's like copying it right out of the encyclopedia word for word, sticking your name on it and handing it in as *your* report. Just because you *can* doesn't mean you *should* - nor does it gove you the right to do so. Crap, if it was that easy, I'd copy down some of the novles I've read and sell them as my own.
    Until Root desides to come back and let us know how it goes, the matter isn't really up for debate anymore. I suspect they saw the design, liked it, did a "Save As" and have been tinckering with it to see if it will fit their needs. There really isn't anything wrong with that (although it would have been nice if they asked.)
    TG

  24. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well there certainly isnt anything wrong with anybody helping themselves to *my* design. This is the internet. But if they trash it and leave my name on it then I care. Deeply. If they use my domain in the title - I care. If they print my blog content with further references to my domain - I care. If they reproduce my posts with references to clients and third parties - yes I really care. As to the design who cares. It is only code. I have received courteous and detailed correspondence from the operator, and hopefully the matter is now closed.

  25. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    blockquote
    I suspect they saw the design, liked it, did a "Save As" and have been tinckering with it to see if it will fit their needs. There really isn't anything wrong with that (although it would have been nice if they asked.)
    /blockquote
    You are making my point for me here, and I admit I could have expressed myself in a more appropriate manner.
    BUT - If it's not deployed on a public website, it's not a violation. Once again, the web was INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED in such a manner that it is possible to adapt and reuse code. I still think the original complainant is being really silly and hysterical and is clearly not too experienced; he originally thought they were hooking into his SQL! Yeesh. Some people just find spare time in their lives and look for something to be upset about.

  26. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    @anon: as the issues involved are clearly a little hard for you to understand, I suggest you go away and read up on the subject before spouting any more ill-informed nonsense. The link I posted earlier might be a good start.
    You sound a little defensive - are you staying anonymous because you've been accused of similar copyright violation in the past?

  27. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    If some one had hooked into *my* database, hell, ya, I'd be a little peeved about that too.... and I would take appropriate actions. That's what led to some of the early confusion. Obviously that is no longer the case. The other issue is that the page it out there for the entire world, in a misrepresentational (is that a word) manner. Had it been hidden somewhere, no one would have been the wiser. It's not like he went looking for them, proly just stumbled across them by accident. It would seem that Root and the "offender" have worked things out and that the issue (as far as they are concerned) is closed.
    TG

  28. oriecat
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well his content is still there, so I don't think I would consider it closed until it wasn't!
    I hope it all works out properly for you, Root.

  29. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yes I know it is. And people wonder why I am mad? **** right I am.

  30. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Uh-oh, found someone else who stole your page - here. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge.

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