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[resolved] Icons much too large (1-4 MByte) (53 posts)

  1. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hello,

    I updated to the newest version today. Unfortunately every icon of an app is much too large. I found some PNG-icons that have a size of 4 MByte! So a 64x64px icon is shown on the website but in the background the 1024x1024px version with 1-4 MByte is loaded. Pretty not effective.

    Could you fix this issue? On your own website every icon just has a size of some KByte - why?

    It is not a good solution to load a 1024x1024px version of an appicon that is shown with 64x64px. For retina-purposes it might be an 128x128px icon that is shown as 64x64px, that would be enough. But 1024x1024 and 4 MByte file size?...

    Regards.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-appbox/

  2. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Just as one example: Look for "Angry Birds RIO", iPad or iPhone Version - does not matter. It has a 1024x1024px icon with a filesize of 4 MByte to be loaded... crazy, hm? Is there a possibility to load just the small version (128x128px) of an icon? I guess, iTunes also does not load the full version of an icon, just a smaller size version... must be possible, somehow.

  3. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Apple has within his API just attributs for 60x60, 100x100 and 512x512. Problem: Some Apps didn't follow it - and the developer put a 1024x1024-image in all the attributs.

    Example:

    https://itunes.apple.com/lookup?id=284910350

    Icon-60 has 57x57, Icon-100 and Icon-512 has 1024x1024.

    No chance - not my fault. I could just use an option, to load the smaller image, but with same apps, there just are the 4MB images.

  4. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    This is not exactly true. Look at https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/angry-birds-rio-hd/id420636551?mt=8 for an example. Can you see the icon on top? Look into the source code. This icon has the source: http://a1.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/118/Purple2/v4/bb/01/bb/bb01bb3f-148e-8582-38ce-e6bd7a8f9bf5/mzl.jrbncgju.175x175-75.jpg with 175x175px.

    This is one of those 4 MByte big 1024x1024 icons... but as you can see in this case it is possible to load a small 175x175px version, which is also enough to show a 64x64px icon which will also look great on retina (because of it´s 175x175px size).

    So why not just using the same source as itunes does?

  5. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Summary: I would never let load 4 MByte versions of an icon. Just think about all those mobile users... they have a volume limited flatrate. With 300 MB per month a 4 MByte download for a 64x64px icon is far, far, far too much.

  6. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    See here: https://itunes.apple.com/lookup?id=420636551. There's no 175px Icon.

    I can only use the data that Apple makes available to me through the API.

    http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/resources/documentation/itunes-store-web-service-search-api.html

  7. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hm, so you must use the API for icons? Is there no chance to use the same source as itunes itself uses? As you can see there are existing 175x175 versions which would make the website load much faster.

    I cannot see any use for 1024x1024 or even 512x512 versions when just displaying the icon in 64x64px. You know what I mean? Every KByte above the use of an 128x128px version (for retina) is just waste of bandwith.

    There must be a solution to resolve this issue... not any ideas?

  8. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    As if Apple does not provide me the data? ;) They do not allow access to other outputs as the API . They may also use other data for its OWN iTunes-Store, yes.

  9. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    You wrote some seconds ago "Step back. It seems as if you could adjust the size. Let me see." - what do you mean with that?

    Would be great if this would lead to a solution :-)

  10. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Yep, I'll try something - but I would not bet that it will work with every app.

  11. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I hope it will work with every app :-) I am always searching for solutions if there is a big issue. To me this is a very relevant and big issue that should be solved.

    In my case I was optimizing my website very much. Load time, backend, frontend, SEO and all those things... and then there comes a 4 MByte icon ;-) You know what I mean? Hihi.

    Would be great if you let me know if you found something! Thank you!

  12. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Mhm, I checked very much icons now. Nearly every icon has a size of at least 600 KByte - for a 64x64px icon.

    I really hope this can be fixed. Otherwise I would not recommend this plugin because it really leads to heavy bandwith usage... but I guess you will find a way.

  13. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Where do you check this?

  14. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    In my upcoming blog. I am using chrome and see all informations about images. And all linked apps are using icons with at least 600 KByte filesize. Most of them with 1024x1024px site.

    My blog is not accessable for other people at the moment.

    Have you found a solution?

  15. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I meant "most of them with 1024x1024px size", of course.

  16. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Oh, okay. ;)

    I think so.

  17. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Great! Looking forward to the update!!! :-)

  18. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    1.7.8 should fix it. I hope, there are Icons for every app - i tested near 100 apps. You may have to clear the cache for new icons.

  19. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I will try it out... I could write back here if there are missing icons, what do you think?

  20. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Here or Twitter. ;)

  21. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Do you know when it will be available in WP?

  22. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Okay... just updated. Some examples, where still 512x512px versions get loaded:

    - Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge for iPad (512x512px, 226 KByte)
    - WhatTheFont (512x512px, 22 Kbyte (because it has nearly just one color)
    - Canabalt (512x512px)

    But many icons now have 128x128px correctly. What is the difference to those which still have 512x512px? Why are they still bigger? Other URL-location or so?

  23. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Solution:

    I took this original location from Monkey Island 2 - which was wrong and still delivered a 512x512 KByte version:

    http://a1194.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/005/Purple/d5/3d/bd/mzi.ukovbpag.jpg

    And placed a "128x128-75" just before the .jpg - and voila: It works!

    http://a1194.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/005/Purple/d5/3d/bd/mzi.ukovbpag.128x128-75.jpg

    Could your plugin not use the same technique?

  24. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I use the same method, but I didn't had any JPEG. ;) I only found PNG. Fix is coming.

    Update: Fix 1.7.8b is up.

  25. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thank you - I will check that out :-)

  26. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hello,

    I cannot load 1.7.8b - there is no update in WordPress, yet? Still using 1.7.8

  27. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I had an update notification in WordPress...

  28. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    No, still no update notification. Still 1.7.8, not 1.7.8b.

  29. mdidesign
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    ... and still no update available. Still using 1.7.8 and NOT 1.7.8b, because it is not delivered through the updates........................

  30. Marcelismus
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Sure - I get the update in another blog and talked to others, all get the update.

    http://exchange.der-s.com/wpappboxupdate1.jpg

    Stats are there, too:

    http://exchange.der-s.com/wpappboxupdate2.jpg

    You tried manual update?

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