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[closed] I DON'T FEEL LIKE SPENDING $600+ FOR PHOTOSHOP! WHAT IS MY ALTERNATIVE? (56 posts)

  1. ronam
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I have a blog that has not taken off yet. i will be posting many picures in a gallery format. i tried photoshop (the trial version) for a few day, there is so much to learn and i don't feel like studying all of its details nor spending that much dough for it. my needs are not that much: just to be able to 'crop' the pictures, make them the same size, flip them around, etc. what other software do you recommend that does not cost so much?

    certainly, i will regard all your replies with gratitude.

  2. moshu
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    One alternative is not to yell in your title :)
    (all caps = yelling)

  3. colinbrady
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    The GIMP is good. Not quite as powerful as APS, but should do the trick for you.

    Cheers,
    Colin

    p.s. It's free.

  4. moshu
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

  5. ronam
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    One alternative is not to yell in your title :)
    (all caps = yelling. moshu
    ............................................

    sorry, not my intention, and i do hate caps!
    why do we have them anyway? i was thinking about that the other day, CAPS serve no purpose expect to tire the fingers having to shift keys? other alphabet that i am familiar with have no such thing as 'capital letters'. look at my statements here and there are no caps anywhere, right? but that is another story...getting back to photoshop...

    can anyone tell me about http://www.jasc.com?

    i came to learn of that site while searching for an alternative to photoshop. it was my understanding that their software is pretty decent and that they charge a monthly fee of $8.00? has anyone tried it? i can't be spinning around looking for a graphic software, i just want to find one that i can afford and start blogging. anyone?

  6. lhk
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

  7. ronam
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    thanks for that link, moshu => (google.ca/search?q=free+image+editor)

    some of the free help sites listed on that link have blazing commercials and i tend to shut them down just as quickly as i open them. i am so averse to commercials that i am prompted to shut them down just as quickly at they appear! a site soaking wet with commercials it not a free-site,such as this one

    http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/imageediting/tp/freephotoedw.htm

    my blog means a lot to me and i may have to bite the bullet and buy photoshop...unless someone else here sees my plea and comes forward with some great idea.

    thanks to you all who responded. coming here to ask questions and to get responses is such a privilege.

  8. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Have you even read or visited the site's that colinbrady and lhk posted for you here? I heard that the forrest GIMP is about the same equivalent to Photoshop... but, it's FREE. The GIMP that is..

    I use it now as a matter of fact. Even though I'd rather have Photoshop again..sigh. I had a "cracked" version of Photoshop before lol, but since they came out with a later version of it, I'm kinda screwed, because I'm on a dial up connection and if I downloaded the 150MB worth or so, it would prolly take me a f-ing week to get it done..sigh.

    I dunno, but thanks for the link lhk, I'll have to check that out then... =)

    spencerp

    P.S. I believe Jasc is what provides Paint Shop Pro 8 or whatever is now..which is not free, if I remember right..

    I had that before too, but some how lost it sigh.. Currently, I have Fireworks 4 and Flash MX, but never got used to Fireworks or Flash MX yet.. so I don't use them lol..

    There is also this forum that I had joined awhile back that has cracks, hacks and serials for various versions of stuff.. just haven't been there in awhile..

  9. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    For what it's worth, I'm a huge fan of Paint.net: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/

  10. ryanmosby
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I agree, GIMP is the closest I've seen to Photoshop. I have Photoshop and have downloaded GIMP before, and can tell you from personal experience that the two are excellent tools (although if you're looking for FREE programs, definitely go for GIMP. Don't waste the money on Photoshop).

  11. lhk
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi spencerp,

    Irfanview is also free, and you can do almost all of what you can do with photoshop. There are also quite a few plugins and extensions available.

    @ronam:

    Instead of moaning the living hell outta people here, go and take a look at the GIMP and Irfanview links. If all you want to do is prep photos for inclusion in your blog posts, these two will readily let you do that without problems.

    If you however, like me, want to be a webdesigner, then you also should stop moaning and invest in your job. I have here Fireworks, Photoshop, ImageReady, Imageslicer, Picture Publisher, Freehand, Fontstudy, Fonttwister, Irfanview, Colorpicker, Animgif and couple of others. And I use each of those for different purposes.

    Oh and using Firefox and its ad-barring functions, one can surf without having ads crawl all over one's screen...

  12. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi spencerp,

    Irfanview is also free, and you can do almost all of what you can do with photoshop. There are also quite a few plugins and extensions available.

    Awesome! Once I finish downloading the "latest" version of MSN Messenger Live, I'll check that out and see what happens from there. =) Thanks again lhk. ;)

    spencerp

    Instead of moaning the living hell outta people here

    Hahaha..I agree.. =P

  13. leMaxim
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Picasa takes care of all your cropping/adjusting needs. Google it and enjoy.

  14. deko
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've never used Photoshop... been using Fireworks and Dreamweaver for years - the best web development tools out there, IMHO. I think Fireworks might be a little cheaper than Photoshop.

    If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay.

  15. madtripper
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    If you're a student you can get Photoshop for much less. I got it about four years ago and I think I paid $150. I was taking an HTML class at the community college which cost all of about $50 and I bought the software at the college bookstore, but I understand you can get student versions from retail outlets as well.

  16. lhk
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi deko,

    actually my preferred photosoft would be a mixture of Photoshop, Picture Publisher and Fireworks. Fireworks has the very best and cleanest compression I ever encountered, I tend to run all pictures for the web after working them once through its export function, and I have a couple of MX plugins which are very neat for buttons et al.. Photoshop has the best plugins for whole-photo and large part manipulation and the best text tools, also nice is the layering system. Picture Publisher OTOH has a couple of very neat masking tools and I just love its copying and softening tools, which are pixel-per-pixel precise.

    Thus I usually start a photo off in PP, then go on to Photoshop and end up with Fireworks. Sometimes I then slice up the whole thing again in the Slicer (e.g. for photos I don't want copied from a site). Which by the way is one other great use for tables which so many hate here *hehehe*. Use a sliced pic as table cell backgrounds, slap samesized transparent gifs into the cell itself and every copyright thief will eventually get quite crazy trying to steal that pic ;-) (yeah, I'm a meanie where it comes to theft of pics).

  17. pizdin_dim
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Going by your very modest requirements, Irfanview is all you need.

  18. manstraw
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I recall a wordpress plugin that could do basic editing, including cropping and flipping etc. Who even needs a separate program! I had tested it, and it worked just fine. I don't remember which plugin though.

    You could start looking for it here http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins/Images. If I can figure out which plugin that was, I'll return here with the info.

  19. deko
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @lhk - yes, that slicer tool is great. it foils image snatchers and gives the perception of faster download time. if the user sees a section of a sliced image start downloading after 1 second, that's the perceived load speed, even if it takes a complete 10 seconds to download the entire image.

  20. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I use lots of programs for lots of tasks:

    For general picture organization and common adjustments: Picasa is excellent. This has gotten a lot more use since I got a Picasa Web account for storing albums online.

    IrfanView is the old standby for picture viewing and quick editing. Lightweight, fast, effective. Free.

    The GIMP is quite good, but frankly a pain to actually use. It makes things way more difficult than they need to be because of the poor UI. There are UI replacements for it out there, including one that makes it look and work almost identical to photoshop.

    But then, I do have a copy of Photoshop as well. It's invaluable when you need to actually change a picture in a meaningful way. Get a student version or something. But don't get it until you actually need it, because 90% of the time, you don't.

  21. davidchait
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    If you don't know image editors, I'd agree that even something like Picasa might just do the job. Crop your images, keep them internally in native size, but export at your 'high' but lower res for the site.

    -d

  22. ronam
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    lhk wrote: [ @ronam: Instead of moaning the living hell outta people here, go and take a look at the GIMP and Irfanview links. If all you want to do is prep photos for inclusion in your blog posts, these two will readily let you do that without problems.]]

    .................................................................................

    'Instead of moaning the living hell outta people here' ? ?

    ihk: in fact, my posts are always gracious and always grateful to whoever responds. those who respond are out there just to be helpful and i am always grateful. in fact, i did find good info in your response, (notwithstanding your barking!) and what am i moaning about? $600 for photoshop just to post pics in my blog seems to me a heap of money. of course, if i were a web designer, that is another matter. i will now look into GIMP. you must also understand that i am concerned about the learning curve, i don't want to spend precious time learning one graphic software and having to migrate to another one and spend fresh precious time learning a new one. i just want to learn one and start blogging away.

    i do use Firefox, but i am not aware about 'ad-barring functions'. i will look into it.

    your post of 2006-06-24 09:04:21 was great...you seem to know your stuff pretty well. i am certainly a newbie.

    thanks.

  23. ronam
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    mucho gracias!

    since posting my message last night (pacific time), i am delighted that so many have responded with very useful info. i will now be looking into the links for the graphics software provided by you kind folks out there. perhaps there is hope for someone like me who has never used a graphics software before. maybe a year from now, i will be on the other end helping a newbie along.

    i will be checking this thread again to see if there are more guides, advice.

    i am grateful to you all for spending the time to share your knowledge.

  24. whooami
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    honestly, I think photoshop rocks. I bought v7.0, and feel like I've easily gotten my money's worth, (no I didnt pay full-price) I havent thought of even upgrading, I am so used to it by now. "Sides, if it aint broke, im not going to fix it.

  25. manstraw
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I think I found the wordpress plugin I used to crop, flip, rotate and scale images. (looks like the one). http://www.soderlind.no/archives/2006/01/03/imagemanager-20/. If you want to be able to edit your images from any computer, this will do ya.

  26. alemcherry1
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I use GIMP, in fact I dont have photoshop at all. I am just a bits and pieces designer, GIMP is more than enough for me!

  27. Doodlebee
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've used Paint Shop Pro (jasc.com) for years. Never had a problem with it. Easy as pie to use - never had a client complain about my graphics, either.

  28. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I actually use both Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro (PSP - the Jasc product). PSP will often run you no more than $30-$50 if you get it on sale, and works quite well.

    I learned graphics management/creation on PSP, and then "upgraded" myself to Photoshop. But for quickie things PSP is fantastic. (Takes a helluva lot less time to load up than Photoshop, too!)

  29. SwtRose
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I use Jasc Paint Shop Pro and it's very easy to use.

  30. drmike
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I crop with MS Paint myself. :)

    Locked down terminals. You make do. :)

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