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How do I build a site to replace a site using a host's 1-click (5 posts)

  1. jamesgangcreative
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    It seems I can't get MAMP to work properly. I have learned databases, SQLphpadmin, the whole thing. I've watched videos on youtube, I've read blogs. I get "packets out of order"

    So, how do I build a wordpress site offline to replace one that is live using a host's 1-click app. Is MAMP the only way? Is there anything out there - and not that "How to use MAMP" that is in this forum as I can't get that to work - that can take me through this process?

    Every one of the sites I have seen make it all look simple, but when I get to the localhost:8888/nameofsite/wp-admin/install.php I get "Packets out of order."

  2. hedronist
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    There's something very weird about this. I did some googling and this seems to be a Mac OS X/FreeBSD related problem. Supposedly this is because there are multiple paths between the server and client. But ... we're talking localhost here which, by definition, should not be even put packets on the LAN, only through the loopback device.

    I'm going to do a little more research (while dinner is cooking) and see if I can come up with something on this.

    Ps. This probably has nothing to do with WordPress.

  3. hedronist
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Well, after looking at a lot of posts, all I can say is, "Aaaarggghhhh!"

    Things we know:

    1. WordPress cannot have anything to do with this. It uses a TCP socket opened by Apache (the A in MAMP).
    2. TCP, by definition, delivers packets in order.
    3. This seems to be limited to Macs and some FreeBSD systems. (BTW, Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix.)
    4. localhost is the name of the local computer, so packets from the browser to the server should never go out on the local area net and, therefore, never have a chance to get out of order.
    5. Crap!
    6. This really feels like a system error. It is rare for these to show up in using an app like MAMP, but they do happen. What it is that is causing this is still unknown.
    7. It is not your fault.
    8. It is not WordPress's fault.
    9. This is not MAMP's fault.

    Stayed tuned.

  4. hedronist
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    ... Update ...

    OK, two possibilities:

    1. Somehow UDP is being used instead of TCP. I don't know how/why this would happen, but UDP does not guarantee either order or delivery.
    2. Somehow multiple TCP sockets got opened and ... packets went over both sockets. This breaks the contract of TCP, and I don't even know how it could happen.

    Oh, and Snow Leopard seems to figure prominently in many of the threads about this ... hmmm ...

    Still working on it ...

    OK. This is clearly a Snow Leopard problem. How/what they screwed up? I don't know. All I know is that this is affecting MAMP, VOIP, and a dozen other types of applications. It's like Apple (in their infinite wisdom) did something in the network code that is the equivalent of removing the letter 's' from the alphabet. It's been there forever, and it should never have been mucked with, but there it is.

    Sorry, I can't help you. Bitch to Apple.

  5. jamesgangcreative
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I found a GREAT YouTube video that approaches the building of the WordPress site in a totally different way than the WordPress and MAMP "How to". It was great; easy to follow: and it WORKED.

    However, I haven't attempted to upload a site yet. I'm going to build something very small and see if it works (A new site vs. rebuilding an existing that has to stay live until I'm ready).

    In any event, I got to the Youtube video by putting in "Installing WordPress using MAMP" It is the one by Creativetoria. There are a couple and there is one that always shows up, but that isn't the best. This one was. It's about 8 1/2 mins long and it was excellent. I have already created two databases with it and the local host works perfectly with MAMP each time. Here's the link, but if that doesn't show up, go to YouTube and put in the info I mentioned. She also has a step by step for MAMP PRO.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwQ25807vWM&feature=related

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