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majestic12
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Hi there..

I am new to html so am sorry if I appear to be a dummy..

I have just set up a website using wordpress for the structure..

Question 1.

I have set up 6 pages.. The thing is I want to be able to post on each of those pages, For example on my "Production music page" I want to post relating to that page.. I can't for the life of me find where I can do that.

Question 2.

In my sidebar it includes.
RECENT POSTS
CATEGORIES
RECENT COMMENT

How do I Reword/change

RECENT POSTS to RECENT NEWS
CATEGORIES to MUSICAL STYLES
RECENT COMMENTS to LISTENERS COMMENTS

Thanks in advance
Rene Dwight
majestic12
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

R.e my post..

I need to create posts on pages I create..I thought this would be simple, I am new to this so please let me know if I my question is silly and what I am asking is something that simply cannot be done..

Many thanks...
minute44
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

The most common problem i see on these forums is when people don't understand the concept of posts and pages.

There is no need for you to do this. Use categories to achieve the goal.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

really, the way forward for wordpress on this, is to provide common extraction methods via the admin interface, on its pages.

... so that people can make a 'page' which pulls posts from category a,b,c but not d, all via a simple web-form in the dashboard.

With so many people hacking their own Loops and putting them into page templates, it seems only logical to offer this via the interface.

That would certainly clear this sort of thing up for good, because you could actually use pages and their 1-level permalink urls to extract information while maintaining your category archives as just that... archives.
moshu
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Ivovic,
Category_Templates do exactly what the OP was asking and what you think should be a "new feature". It is already in WP.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

if it is, it's new to 2.5, and you'll have to excuse me for staying clear of that one for now.

I agree, category templates do exactly what the OP wants, except that the OP is new to HTML - and I can't imagine how new to PHP, so I feel the customisation of those templates isn't necessarily going to be a cakewalk.

I was simply suggesting a method which would eliminate 80% of support questions, and which should have been part of WP's admin interface for the last two years. My bad ;)
majestic12
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Thanks for posting folks..

My level of html knowledge is very basic.... I am able to modify PHP in the sense that you would train a monkey to carry out a task.. for example if you say go to this php page and change this code to that code.. that I can do [ after making the backup of course ].. understanding the codes and what is going on .. hmm probably not..

As to the wordpress questions I have I always Googled before but as last resort I post here... I suppose the thing with wordpress is there are many versions and most people seem to be fiddling and creating all sorts of exciting stuff.. that's when a newbie like myself can get really confused...

It maybe I am trying to use wordpress in a way it is not meant to be used.. I am in essence trying to build my business site around wordpress but allow people to comment on certain pages..

I have to say I am so impressed with the way "all" of you and the folk on these forums try to help one another.. outstanding...

Have a great weekend all.. Rene
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Rene, you're not really going beyond the scope of wordpress in any way. For someone with a little php literacy, wordpress can be an extremely flexible tool.

Unfortunately, it does require that little bit of literacy even to do what seemingly EVERYONE wants to do with it - and that was the reason for my comments above.

It could be made easier than it is - but until that happens, a little reading will do you the world of good. The more PHP you read, the easier it becomes to understand what's going on in there.

Start with the page linked for you above, and look into category templates - I bet you'll find it easier than you think.
majestic12
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Thanks Ivovic..
moshu
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

if it is, it's new to 2.5,

You mean the Category_Templates? No, they are in use for ages.

Simply, the OP had the wrong approach. That is why I started to argue.

For classification (?categorization?) of posts you DO NOT create Pages. You create categories. Period.
Then if, and only IF you want to change the look of the different category listing - you want to use Category Templates. Otherwise you do not have to do anything.

Let's not overcomplicate it.

So, the OP should delete ALL the Pages created, create categories for the different posts, and then, after all this, we can address the display in the sidebar issue.
It is that simple.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

No, I don't mean category templates - you suggested that what I wanted was already a wordpress feature.

Unless 2.5 has a 3-click system in the wp-admin for inserting a custom Loop into a wordpress page, then no, the feature I want doesn't exist.

it may seem redundant to you, but I will only refer you to 10,000 threads here from people all expecting to be able to extract data from their posts into pages.

It can be done very easily - but not easily enough, and there's no reason wordpress couldn't create a custom loop for you with options you specify, instead of an actual text-entry field when writing a page.

it would just need to be an option in the admin interface... and hundreds of threads a month disappear from the support forum.
moshu
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

it may seem redundant to you, but I will only refer you to 10,000 threads here from people all expecting to be able to extract data from their posts into pages.

Because they all don't understand how WP works. 99% of those cases are here because they want to have the category archives in the top/horizontal menu - which is usually made up by using the wp_list_pages template tag.

So, it is NOT that they want some kind of special Page with custom Loop... they just don't realize it would be easier to edit the menu than to ask the wrong question.

I'd rather see some admin-side facility that lets you edit the menu. There is no real need to display posts on Pages.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

the only need is the logical one... or the permalink one... but I don't see it as a costly exercise to offer that feature - and if it were there, I'd use it myself.

I'd prefer myblog.com/news instead of myblog.com/category/news anyday.... and if I could have the full content on /news and maintain the excerpts only on /category/news that would be even better.

a custom loop builder for pages would be really excellent for a lot of people... but I can see why you don't agree -- I'm pretty good at making templates by now too... I just shouldn't have to be.

Is it really easier to keep telling people that they simply don't understand something which is actually pretty confusing terminology - or is it easier to just make it so they don't need to understand?

"So, it is NOT that they want some kind of special Page with custom Loop"

I agree, and it's also NOT that they want to remodel their category-based archives either. All they want is a result - and either option gives them one, be it in a page template, or a category template.

It would just be nice if 'pages' were the feature in wordpress which allowed you to expand your blog's functionality. As it stands right now, pages are the most useless feature.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

I want to add... this condition is also exacerbated by all these themes which offer tabs in the header, which lead you to pages.

... except pages are useless, and what they should be doing is leading to categories.

... except people usually want more categories than 5 or 6....

so we're back to tabs of useless pages - instead of just making it so those pages can actually be functional areas of your website.
jorne
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

This is the first time I post here. I don't usually post in forums at all, but now I been trying to solve this issue the whole day yesterday and today. As minute44 mention, the most common problem on these forums is when people don't understand the concept of posts and pages. The problem is it is not easy to understand. Let say you want to create the following website:

Parent.1
child 1.1
child 1.2
Parent.2
child 2.1
child 2.2
Parent.3

All the children are linking to different post categories and Parent.3 is a static page (let say a contact form). Is it possible to make a dynamic site like this in Word press? The site I'm building are quite large and this is just an example illustrating the problems with the post/page structure. Started building this using categories but it seems it is not possible to highlight menu items dynamically using them? How to get different pages load different categories(posts). Hope you can understand my problem. My English is not so good.
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

if you want to load posts into pages, you can do so via Page Templates.

the following links should help:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Pages#Page_Templates
http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags/query_posts

however, it is possible to do this via categories and have dynamic navigation which highlights the current category view.

just like wp_list_pages, wp_list_categories issues a class to the currently active category. Use 'current-cat' in your css to highlight it.
Kalessin
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

@Ivovic: Whilst I agree with a lot of what you're saying, one of my favourite things about WordPress is that it is clean and simple to use. It has a few settings that can be customized from the Dashboard, but for more advanced users the Codex offers massive scope for building bespoke websites.

I'm sure it would be possible to build a lot of the template tags into WordPress, but at what cost to its simplicity? From looking at these forums I get the impression that WordPress is fine for the majority of basic users. Those who want to take it further have the Codex. They might need a little help, but that's what we're here for :)
Ivovic
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

that may be what YOU are here for.

I don't see what the problem with adding options is... you can always choose not to use them, and for the most part what I'm proposing would be used by more people than use some of the existing options.
jorne
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

I changed 'current_page_item' into 'current_cat' instead of 'current-cat'
I can't understand I wasted so much time on this. Thanks Ivovic for showing me in the right direction. By the way, I agree with you. I think a function like that make sense. It should not make WP much less clean but for sure more simple to use. At the same time in general I agree with Kalessin. One of the main reasons I choose WP in the first place was the clean interface.
jorne
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

Post the solution as well even though it is of topic.
To highlight posts you can use CSS:
#navigation ul li.current_page_item a {
background: #fff;
color: #333;
}
And Php:
<?php wp_list_pages()?>
To highlight categories you can use CSS:
#navigation ul li.current-cat a {
background: #fff;
color: #333;
}
And Php:
<?php wp_list_categories()?>

The codex need to be updated on this issue
http://codex.wordpress.org/Dynamic_Menu_Highlighting
jorne
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

I just don't get it! I regret I gave my view on what you been discussing here. I do not have enough understanding of the structure in wordpress yet to make any judgments. As I understand it, if I choose to use <?php wp_list_categories()?> I can't select different templates from the Admin Interface. I have to set if/else statements in the template. If I choose to use <?php wp_list_pages()?> I can create a more dynamic site but are forced to create a separate hierarchy for pages and posts because you can't combine them. None of the solutions are good. I went with solution number two because I need to create a site people with no technical knowledge can add new pages to.
I have spent a lot of time trying to get this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Indojepang
Member
Posted 4 years ago #

patience is the key..
Moshu has give the answer for you

for the category u could use Category_Templates, it's act like page_templates only it's for category.

Who said u can't combine them? (pages and category)
yes it can.. search this forum (post+category+page).. i bet u will see moshu a lot for these search.. :) follow his instruction path.

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