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1. michaelhyatt
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   A few days ago, I accidentally published a post that I had wanted to schedule for publication on a specific day. I immediately realized that I had screwed up. Since it was for a specific promotion that couldn’t run early, I had to take the post down.

   I then scheduled the post for publication on the appropriate day. Unfortunately, I soon discovered that the RSS feed had already fired. I managed through this with a few readers, but fortunately it didn’t cause too much trouble.

   Today, the post went live. I was hoping that it the RSS feed would update as usual, notifying my subscribers of the new post. However, it didn’t fire. I assume that is because WordPress “thinks” the post was already published.

   How can I re-fire my RSS feed, so that this post is pushed to my readers?

2. wkeving
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   When I look at your RSS feed, I see the Andy Andrews Forgiveness Part 2 post as the latest article listed in the feed. What specific technology are you using to "push" the RSS feed to readers?

3. michaelhyatt
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   I am using Feedburner.

4. michaelhyatt
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   I guess I could just create a new post with the same permalink, trash the old post and then immediately publish the new one.

   However, I already several comments on the post, which I would lose. Maybe that's not such a great idea.

5. wkeving
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   So are you asking how to get Feedburner to resend an email notification of the post going live? I think that's what you're asking.

6. human3rror
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   you could "nuke" your RSS to force a re-sync manually.

7. michaelhyatt
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   No, I want an RSS feed of the post to show up in people's RSS readers. It will also trigger FeedBlitz, which sends the email.

8. michaelhyatt
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   John, I did the manual resync on Feedburner about a half hour ago. However, that didn't resend the latest post.

9. wkeving
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Wouldn't an updated name and or permalink, not a whole new post, trigger as a new or updated post for feedburner or feedblitz?

10. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Is FeedBlitz or FeedBurner providing the delivery of email notification to users? Either way, wouldn't that email go out based on scheduled time in your settings? If it's already passed for today, you would need to reset it for later today.

11. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I am not sure if that would work. Also, if I change my permalink, it would render my Twitter post with the original link obsolete. I don't think that just changing the title would fire the RSS, but I will investigate.

12. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Where is the delivery time configured? I can’t find that.

    The post went up at 4:00 am CDT today, which is the same time it always happens. Usually, my RSS fires immediately.

13. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I definitely see the article when I look at your feed. It's there. :-) So your saying that FeedBurner fires off it's email notification at the same time? Or within a few moments?
    I know for my feed, it's set to deliver between 7-9am.

    Take a look at this pic. http://grab.by/5f1s Publicize>Email Subscriptions>Delivery Options

    That's where the delivery window is set. For FeedBurner. If it's actually Feedblitz, I'd have to take a look at a Feedblitz account. Haven't used them yet.

14. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I am not using Feedburner's email option. It is not activated, so I don't have the delivery option.

    Here's the sequence:

    1. I publish a new post.
    2. That triggers WordPress’s RSS module, which (I assume) pings Feedburner.
    3. Feedburner pushes the new post to my RSS subscribers.
    4. It also pings FeedBlitz.
    5. FeedBlitz pushes the new post to my email subscribers.

    So the question is how do I get either the WordPress module to re-ping Feedburner or Feedburner to send out the most recent post.

    Does that make sense?

15. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Sorry. I think I'm missing something. When I look at your Feedburner feed, I see this:
    http://grab.by/5f2o
    That shows this morning's post. Feedburner has published the post correctly. If you're not using Feedburner to send email updates of your feed, then there is nothing else for Feedburner to do with your post. I'm unaware of any other update or notification that Feedburner gives, other than email, which you say is being handled by FeedBlitz.

16. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I really am trying to help, but now I feel like I'm making it worse. Definitely not my intent.

17. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    You are definitely not making it worse. I am grateful for the help, believe me.

    Yes, the new post shows up when you view the whole feed. But the new post was not pushed to my subscribers. The only way someone would get it is if they subscribed after the post was published.

18. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I think the word pushed is what is throwing me off. My understanding and experience with Feedburner "pushing the post" is through an email notification. Am I missing some additional features in Feedburner settings? Can you define your understanding of how Feedburner is "pushing" the post to subscribers? I think that's where we're breaking down in our communication. As a subscriber through Feedburner, what notification or "push" should I see?

19. skeggsjp
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm thinking, based on what I've read that, maybe the best solution is as wkeving said:

    Wouldn't an updated name and or permalink, not a whole new post, trigger as a new or updated post for feedburner or feedblitz?

    I would think this would be the case...

    In response to what you mentioned about doing that Michael:

    I am not sure if that would work. Also, if I change my permalink, it would render my Twitter post with the original link obsolete. I don't think that just changing the title would fire the RSS, but I will investigate.

    It would definitely impact your Twitter post, however, you could delete the old Twitter Post and create a new one manually.

    I think regardless of how this gets patched up, something gets lost somewhere. That might be the easiest fix...

20. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    If you are using an RSS reader like Google Reader, then new posts show up in your reader as they are published. 10,000 of my subscribers get my posts this way. Only about 2,000 get them via email.

21. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm using Google Reader and I see the post. I think it's a Reader issue and not a Feedburner issue. Reader has cached the article from the accidental posting, and now Reader is not "seeing" it as a new post. Let me check on that.

    A simple resolution may be a quick post stating the error with a link to the post in question, which will "update" all subscriber's, giving them opportunity to check out the post.

22. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Here's a link to Google help on updating/refreshing your feed.
    http://www.google.com/support/reader/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=97875
    That might help.

23. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks. I think you might be right about that. Of course, it will be cached on all my subscribers readers, too.

    The only thing that makes me question that theory is that the email messages weren’t sent either. Regardless, I just went to FeedBlitz and was able to re-send the email. I subscribe to my own blog for testing purposes and just received the email.

    This is probably the best I can do, given the fact that I don't want to lose the 34 or so comments the post has already garnered.

24. wkeving
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Yep. I think you're right at this point. Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer quicker. I did leave comment, tweet about it, and register for the free Heart Mender book on yesterday's part 1 post. ;-) Thanks for your excellent blog. I thoroughly enjoy your wisdom and insight.

25. michaelhyatt
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks for all your help, Kevin!

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