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Heading 1, Heading 2 etc. question ~~~ (15 posts)

  1. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Hi,

    When I used SiteBuilder by Yahoo I had a Heading 1 on each page followed by a string of Heading 2 sections, each with distinct additional but equally important information.

    Is it all right to do that? Here in WordPress the headings are provided so that we can select what we want. Only I'm confused, am I SUPPOSED to want smaller headlines as people read further down my page? or, can I opt to have the same Heading 2 size headline everywhere after my Heading 1????

    Here's a page where the difference would be significant if I kept using the next numerical Heading, making the headings smaller and smaller... as it is, it is a Heading 1 followed by a series of heading 2 sections.

    http://health-boundaries.com/hypochlorhydria/

  2. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    You can't easily change the theme's coding of some elements - unless you are very familiar with how WP is coded and HTML and CSS.

  3. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I opt to have the same Heading 2 size headline everywhere after my Heading 1?

    Sure, if the heading2's are of equal importance, you can make them the same. You might want to do some reading/research on Google Webmaster Tools about how Google works - they have lots of useful/helpful info.

  4. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I've been reading and reading. It's overwhelming when completely new to WordPress

  5. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    In the WordPress basic choices for writing a page or paragraph there's a drop down box with "paragraph" "heading 1" "heading 2" etc.

  6. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Yep, so in those cases, you can use whatever heading tag makes logical sense to you - and what will be useful/logical for your readers.

  7. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    One last confusion (on this) to clear up.

    Did you tell me to read the Google stuff because a Google consideration comes before what I like the looks of, or what I think will be most helpful to my readers???

    i.e. does google like each subsequent section to be delineated with the next heading number?

  8. CrouchingBruin
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I don't think Google really cares what heading tags you use within the body of your pages, so design with your readers in mind, not for what you think Google wants. Your users won't have a problem finding your site using a Google search. Montezuma will use the h1 tag for the site title on the home page and h2 for the site title on all other pages; I forget the reasoning for this, but I'll post an update when I find out.

    If you want, you can change the font, as well as the size, of your heading tags fairly easily within the Montezuma theme. The settings are located in the virtual content.css file:

    /********************************************************************
    	<H1> - <H6> HEADINGS
    ********************************************************************/
    
    h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
    	font-family: 			'Yanone Kaffeesatz', sans-serif;
    	font-weight: 			normal;
    	margin: 					20px 0 10px 0;
    }
    
    h1 { font-size: 40px; line-height: 44px; }
    h2 { font-size: 36px; line-height: 40px; }
    h3 { font-size: 32px; line-height: 35px; }
    h4 { font-size: 28px; line-height: 33px; }
    h5 { font-size: 24px; line-height: 27px; }
    h6 { font-size: 20px; line-height: 22px; }

    You can also add/change Google Fonts to the theme fairly easily, in case you wanted to use a different font family for a certain heading tag, for example. Read the documentation under Appearance > Montezuma Options > CSS Settings > Add Google Fonts for more information.

  9. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Hi CrouchingBruin
    Wow, you answered the question that's been bothering me and I forgot to put in. I had wondered if Google treated the page name as H1.

    I'm going to add this reply to my "notebook" of information on using Montezuma. Thank you!!!!!

  10. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Hi again, CrouchingBruin -- by the way I love the images that come to mind from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Thank you for that!

    I wanted to say I hope you look at my question about "colot" which was supposed to be another COLOR question.

    Karen

  11. CrouchingBruin
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    OK, here's the snippet of documentation I was referring to. It pertains to one of the functions that can be used in the main or sub templates:

    This [the bfa_if_front_else function] could be used to switch the HTML tag used e.g. for the site title from h1 on the front page to h2 or h3 or even a div on all other pages, to put the SEO focus on the title of a post, a page or a category title or whatever the essence of a given page is. You can (and usually will) make the site title look the same, through CSS. It is commonly accepted good SEO practise to give the site title an H1 only on the front page and nowhere else. You mileage may vary if your site title is very important and/or full of relevant keywords.

    (emphasis mine)
    So it sounds like search engines will use the heading tags to determine which are the phrases which are most important, with h1 being the most important phrases down to h6.

    Yes, I saw your other question about border color, let me do some research on that and I'll post an answer in about 45 minutes (I'm working on another task that's going to take me about a half hour).

  12. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I've copied that into my notebook of Montezuma help. but I don't understand it. Does it mean that we should use an h1 ONLY on the front page? Is the "front" page the same as a "home" page?

    I'm just so unclear. I thought each page was supposed to begin with an h1 tag for the title and main content of that page. One set of words for both those things.

    I thought that I didn't have to put an H1 tag on my Montezuma pages because the Title in the dual colors was the H1 tag...

    If a front page is different from the home page, does that mean that you can have a sort of "chapter" of pages with one central thought...? Each page a different aspect of one central thing???

  13. CrouchingBruin
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Does it mean that we should use an h1 ONLY on the front page?

    Sorry to confuse you. The excerpt which I quoted only had to do with the site title (which is in the header), not the page title. Montezuma actually outputs the page title inside H1 tags by default for all pages. You can see it if you examine the main template that's used to create pages. Go to Appearance > Montezuma Options > Main Templates and click on page.php. That's the virtual template that is used to display any single page that's not a blog post. It's a mixture of HTML and PHP (don't get too nervous if you don't know PHP, it's not that complicated as far as what you need to know for the theme).

    It starts off looking like this:

    <?php get_header(); ?>
    <div id="main" class="row">
    	<div id="content" class="col8">
    		<div id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>" <?php post_class('cf'); ?>>
    			<h1>
    				<a href="<?php the_permalink(); ?>" title="<?php the_title_attribute(); ?>" rel="bookmark"><?php the_title(); ?></a>
    				<?php bfa_comments_number(); ?>
    			</h1>

    So you can see that the call to the_title() function (which outputs the page title) is enclosed by h1 tags.

    Is the "front" page the same as a "home" page?

    Yes, front page = home page.

    If a front page is different from the home page, does that mean that you can have a sort of "chapter" of pages with one central thought...? Each page a different aspect of one central thing???

    Yes, see my answer to your other thread about turning your pages into blog posts. If you do that, you can categorize your posts and group them into different pages.

  14. CrouchingBruin
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    I was thinking about how Montezuma uses h1 for the site title on the home page, but h2 for the site title on other pages (and h1 for the page titles), and it makes sense. If h1 signifies the most important phrase on a particular page, then the most important phrase on a site's home page should be the site title, because that's what should appear as the heading of the site in the results of a Google search. On the other hand, for pages that are other than the home page, the page title is more important than the site title because it describes the content of the page better than the site title itself.

  15. ConsiderThis1
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    I FINALLY get this.

    The first few times I read it I did not see what you were saying.

    Sometimes my brain injury makes me think my brain used to do Random Access really well; now it needs a specially labeled floppy disk for each topic, if not the individual terms.

    I'm just hoping the material on changing my header becomes clear... in the near future. :-)

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