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  1. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I switched from Typepad to WP over a month ago. When I was at TP I had a 5 rank. Now, I'm unranked. Does anyone know how long it takes to get ranked & whether you need to do anything in particular to get ranked. Could there be any other reason why I'm unranked?

  2. Denis de Bernardy
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thanks, then I guess it's a FF browser issue. With my old blog I could clearly see the page rank at the bottom of the screen (I think I have an extension or something installed that allows it to display). But I get P: n/a where the pg. rank should be now.

  4. Marc
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I guess it's fair to add this considering Denis has given you a correct response:

    Who gives a DAMN!

  5. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I hope I'm not veering into off-topic subject matter, but I'd like to hear a little more about what you meant (I also don't know what "PR5" is short for & would like to know). I thought google page rank had something to do with how high your blog posts would appear in a search. Am I wrong? Or does it not matter?

  6. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    PR = PageRank (i.e. the thread topic), so "Still PR5" meant your pagerank is at the same level you mention in your first post. And yes, Google does use pagerank as part of their 'search heuristics.'

  7. tomhanna
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    PR5 is short for "Page Rank 5". It's after the founder of Google Larry Page and yes it will affect how high your blog posts appear in a search. It also affects how often Google revisits your site to pick up new content and because it is based off of the incoming links it is often a good predictor of what other search engines will do. Here is what Google has to say on it:
    http://www.google.com/technology/

    Your site is showing up with a 5 rank in two different Firefox toolbar plugins that I have running if I visit "http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/", but it shows up unranked for "http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/index.php." To the Google spider those are two different addresses and only the main one has been ranked.

    Your individual pages are showing up with ranks of zero and that is because you are using custom permalinks. If you use the standard permalinks instead of the long style all your posts will probably share the same PR as your main page, either a 5 without the "index.php" or unranked with it.

  8. If you use the standard permalinks instead of the long style all your posts will probably share the same PR as your main page

    More info: http://codex.wordpress.org/Search_Engine_Optimization_for_Wordpress#Permalinks

  9. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I can't use custom permalinks because I'm trying to use mod_rewrite to preserve visitor's ability to get to my WP blog using old format links fr. my old TYpepad blog.

    I'm bummed that none of my individual pgs. will be ranked. Perhaps that's why I'm getting half of the site traffic I got when I was w. Typepad (I'm 5 wks. from my blog migration so I think Google should've caught up to me fully by now).

    I wonder what's more important in the overall scheme of things, retaining use of the old links or getting pg. ranking for all my individual pgs.

    I'd like to hear what you all think about this...

  10. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Tomhanna, I'm confused by what you said about my site having custom permalinks & that they show up w. no ranking.

    I just read the Codex link offered by macmanx above & it says:

    Permalinks are enhancements to your existing URLs which can improve search engine optimization by presenting your post, page, and archive URLs as something like http://example.com/2003/05/23/my-cheese-sandwich/ rather than http://example.com/index.php?p=423.

    How are my permalinks diff. than the first permalink listed in this passage? It hought they followed that structure.

    I wish someone would take a stab at my question above asking if you had a choice bet. retaining visitors using your old blog permalinks (& using mod_rewrite) & using a more search engine friendly permalink structure, which would you choose? I'm guessing that most would choose the latter.

    If so, & if I decide to ditch my mod_rewrite permalink conversion rules, how would I change my WP permalink structure to be more search engine friendly?

  11. I wish someone would take a stab at my question above asking if you had a choice bet. retaining visitors using your old blog permalinks (& using mod_rewrite) & using a more search engine friendly permalink structure, which would you choose? I'm guessing that most would choose the latter.

    I would choose "using a more search engine friendly permalink structure" and either place a search field in my custom 404 page, or use this plugin: http://wp-plugins.net/index.php?id=370

    how would I change my WP permalink structure to be more search engine friendly?

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Search_Engine_Optimization_for_Wordpress#Permalinks

    http://www.tomrafteryit.net/boost-search-engine-optimisation-seo-using-permalinks/

  12. Personally, I used /archives/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/ as my permalink structure, but I recently changed it to /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/. I have set my site to strip the /archives/ from all incoming links and issue a 301 (permanent redirect) by adding this line to my .htaccess file:

    Redirect permanent /wordpress/archives/ http://www.macmanx.com/wordpress/

    (Thanks to Tom Raftery for helping me with that.)

  13. tomhanna
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Richard, the first permalink in the example is a custom permalink - that's why it's "instead of". The second in the example is the default. The default achieves a higher Page Rank "out of the box" from what I've seen.

    There are actually two separate issues at play here. One, which you asked about initially, is Page Rank. The second is search results. Page Rank is only one part of (Google) search results.

    The search engine advantage to the first type of permalinks (which are not the default and are therefor "custom") is that if you are careful to use keywords (in the example, My Cheese Sandwich) in your post titles, you will end up with the keywords in the URL. This is supposed to improve search results by telling the search engines that your page is really really really about those keywords.

    Page Rank, which is what you asked about, is a separate issue and from what I've seen the "?p=423" style standard permalinks perform better on Page Rank than the "05/23/my-cheese-sandwich" style. Where you will end up in actual search results (for Google) is a function of Page Rank and other variables, including whether you have keywords in the URL.
    The only problem is that with Page Ranks of zero on your post pages compared to a Page Rank of 5 for your main page, Google would have to give a lot of extra weight to the keywords in the URL to make up for it. And as I wrote before, Page Rank isn't used by the other search engines but because what it measures is important to all search engines it's a good proxy for determining how other engines will view your page.

  14. richards1052
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    That explains things better. But unfortunately, I don't know how much weight to give to ea. issue in terms of what'd be best for me. You seem to be saying that whatever you gain from google search results via keywords is more than offset by the loss of the google rank for the posts.

  15. tomhanna
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I would think so, but bear in mind that if these are exactly the URLs you were using before, your PR did not change simply because the backend software you use changed. If your search results were acceptable before, they shouldn't change.

  16. brian1970
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi,
    You will have to excuse me but I am new to the pc.
    I have an e-book selling websites www. ebooks4u. tv
    I have had the site for about 2 month before I noticed a google page rank of 1.
    I have since got a few hundred inbound links to my site and about 25 out bound links, 1 or 2 links are pr5 sites.
    Ok now for my questions how often does google update page rank?
    I have been advised to join a traffic rotator website to get more visits to my site, will this help with my page rank or is it just a waste of time?
    Thanks in advance.
    Regards Brian

    [Moderated - non wp link broken again]

  17. estjohn
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Traffic rotators jsut give you people clicking on a browser so they can get pages and have their own page distributed out other people clicking ona browser for the same reason. In other words, 1,000 people might see your site. woopie... doesnt mean anything to google PR. PR doesnt measure traffic

    Better yet, concentrate on getting quality and good links. and on content. Also,.. seo for ALL search engines, dont concentrate on just google...

  18. brian1970
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Thanks for the help guys.

  19. tomhanna
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    With "a few hundred inbound links" to a new site, expect a very long wait before you are indexed by Google. Too many links too fast for a new site is the sure ticket to the "sandbox" where Google sends potential search engine spammers.

  20. estjohn
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    good point tomhanna!

  21. brian1970
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    is php or html better for a site better, I told php ranks better?
    is this true?

  22. estjohn
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Google ued to could not see php.. so html was better. now it can see php... you just dont want dynamic pages ending like asd?=asd.assd.php

    I wouldnt say php is better, i would say that you can use php to include functions and make the original page size smaller that you could not do in straight html.

    neither "ranks" better than the other.. its more like is the code correct and whos linking to it, and the content being good

  23. brian1970
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Thanks for that, but if you have a selling website like I have how do you make the content good? Is good changing it all the time?
    When using a link popularity check from widexldotcom it’s telling me that I have 2208 links to my site http://www.ebooks4u. ( tv ) tells me that I have 2208 inbound links.
    My site sells well as most of the e-books have the site URL plus I sell on eBay but I only have a page rank of 1 and I don’t do well in the search engines.

  24. estjohn
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    you said your site had only been up for 2 months? read above what tomhanna said...

    personally..as i said..f orget about PR. what goes into it work on , yes.. but forget the number itself.

  25. estjohn
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    you said your site had only been up for 2 months? read above what tomhanna said...

    personally..as i said..f orget about PR. what goes into it work on , yes.. but forget the number itself.

  26. olmir
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I'd like to add another point concerning Google's PR. Google ranks your page taking into account the rank of page, which has a link to yours.

    As an example - I've put http://www.olegcv.com link at one very popular and highly ranked page. As a reslut I have PR 4 in 1 week from the birthday of this domain name.

  27. Netdetective
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    What if Google indexes both versions of the blog, the permalinks version and the default query string version? Could this cause a duplicate content penalty? It's suggested that the default version is not as SE friendly, but I checked my Google site: links and it looks like google has indexed them fine.

  28. chaaban
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Is There a plugin to show the page rank of a page ?

  29. I don't think that there is a page rank plugin available for WordPress at this time. For now, just add the Google Toolbar to your browser to check the page rank of each page that you visit, or visit PRChecker.info to check the page rank of individual pages.

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