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[resolved] Search by forum (16 posts)

  1. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    To limit a search to just a specific plugin.

    Example, I found a great plug-in (JSON-API) and I want to limit the search to only topics on it's support page here, http://wordpress.org/support/plugin/json-api.

  2. Improved search is just one thing that's on a long list of things to-do.

  3. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    Hi Jan,

    What does that mean? How do I follow up on this? Is there a bug report filed that I can keep track of?

  4. Andrew
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    I don't think there is more you can do.

  5. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    If you'd looked on this forum a bit more, you would have found this thread about 15 posts below yours:

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/ability-to-search-within-a-specific-plugin-support-forum?replies=8

  6. http://meta.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/144

    It's on the MASSIVE to-do list. :/

  7. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    WPyogi,

    Good point! :) That's true, I could have looked page by page until I found the duplicate. In this case, a similar post was posted a short time earlier but that is not always the case. It could have just as likely have been posted 10 or 20 pages earlier. In all actuality, it has probably been asked more this.

    To support your point about duplicates more I'll refer you to the support ticket,

    A lot of duplicate support threads for themes/plugins could be avoided if users had a way to search through existing threads only for that particular theme/plugin.

    If someone can refer me to the code that searches the wordpress.org forums, I'll volunteer to work on this.

    BTW Saying that there is a very long To Do list is unnecessary. Adding a vote for bug or feature would be a better way of helping the community communicate to the WP developers that this is high or low (based on votes) on the communities priority list. The developers will then, at least, know what matters to the community and make decisions based on that.

  8. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    I'll volunteer to work on this.

    Thank you for the offer but it's not that simple.

    Saying that there is a very long To Do list is unnecessary.

    Actually, it is as the same questions/suggestions keep coming up again and again and again...

    Adding a vote for bug or feature would be a better way of helping the community communicate to the WP developers

    You mean like http://wordpress.org/ideas/ ?

    The developers will then, at least, know what matters to the community and make decisions based on that.

    They already know. It's more matter of time & resources.

  9. Also once a ticket is made, the idea is moot and generally closed. I mean, we have a ticket. Therefore someone will work on it when they can figure out HOW to do it in a way that won't make things worse.

    If that was a simple search, we'd do it :/

  10. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    Hi Esmi,

    Thank you for the offer but it's not that simple.

    Thank you for your response but how do you know it's not that simple? Are you a developer on the WP team? Please elaborate on this with specifics.

    Actually, it is as the same questions/suggestions keep coming up again and again and again...

    It doesn't help to tell someone that it's on a very long or massive to-do list. That's saying someday probably way in the future someone might look at it and might do it. What would be more helpful is to say here is the ticket, here is a date or version the developers said they would get to it by.

    You mean like http://wordpress.org/ideas/ ?

    I looked at the ideas site. That's not what I mean. I'm talking about a vote on the bug or feature request ticket page. I also tried the ideas site to search for, "search by plugin forum", "search by forum" and "search by plug-in forum" and received over 180 to 480 pages of results. :( I'm not going to find similar ideas with that many results.

    They already know. It's more matter of time & resources.

    How do you know they already know about this specific issue? Did you talk to them about it? Saying "it's more a matter of time and resources" could be said about anything anywhere.

    I'm harping on the responses, "It's on a todo list" and "They already know about it" because it's the same response I've seen over and over on these forums for the last six years. It prevents any sort of accountability on the part of WP developers or staff. What we need is more discussion from the developers and project managers. We need links to tickets, dates and times. We need roadmaps and schedules. We need more communication. Other sites and projects have these basic things.

  11. Andrew
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    What's the urgency?

    Other sites and projects have these basic things.

    WordPress.com for example have paid staff. Time and resources.

  12. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    Are you a developer on the WP team?

    Not for the WPORG site, no but I know the tech ninjas who are. :-) I haven't got much in the way of specific other than to say that the whole of the WPORG platform is highly customised and extends well beyond these forums and the Plugin Repo. As a result, superficially simple changes can be quite difficult and time-consuming to implement.

    That's saying someday probably way in the future someone might look at it and might do it.

    That's certainly not what I meant to imply. Someone will eventually look at it but we have no idea when. Work on the WPORG network is obviously carried out on a prioritised basis and this just doesn't have the highest priority.

  13. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    Please moderators do not try to placate me. I do not want to hear it anymore. Six years of hearing the same thing is enough.

    Has anyone who responded to this thread work for the company? How do you know they read this post? The truth is you don't.

  14. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    Has anyone who responded to this thread work for the company?

    What company? WordPress is developed, maintained & supported by unpaid volunteers. There is no "company". I would have thought you'd be aware of that after 6 years.

  15. monkeypunch3
    Member
    Posted 7 months ago #

    There are two entities we are talking about here, WordPress.org and WordPress.com.

    WordPress.com is a commercial enterprise owned by Automattic, a company started by the founding developer of WordPress and staffed by full-time developers, designers, and support engineers. Automatticians (employees of Automattic) regularly contribute back to the WordPress software so that the entire community can benefit.

    [1] [2]

    BTW I hope my last reply is not taken wrong. I'm frustrated that it seems the developers of WordPress are not on this site. Features and tickets seem to go into a black hole from my perspective. I'm hoping by mentioning my dissatisfaction that something will change. That there will be more communication and more accountability. In the projects I've worked on if you had an issue you could go vote for it and in some cases you could work on it yourself.

    [1] http://en.support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/
    [2] http://dailypost.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/com-or-org/

  16. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 7 months ago #

    As you say, there are two very distinct entities: wordpress.com and wordpress.org. wordpress.org develops, supports, distributes and documents the WordPress application. It is run by volunteers. wordpress.com is a commercial company whose employees often help out but that's all.

    it seems the developers of WordPress are not on this site

    Oh - they are! But they are not all wordpress.com employees. One or two of the current core developers might also work for Automattic but that's about it. The actual list of core contributor is huge. And that's before you factor all of the other parts of the WPORG network into it - the forums, the Codex, the theme reviews, the plugin reviews, the accessibility group, the translation group etc etc. Every one of these people contribute to WordPress itself one way or another. But they're still all volunteers for the most part - working in their spare time.

    Then there's the complex infrastructure that brings the whole thing together. That's all custom built and constantly being developed & expanded.

    I do appreciate your frustration. There isn't a person in this topic who hasn't been frustrated by it too. But we also understand that - in the grand scheme of all things WPORG - it has to wait its turn. And that's not a fob off - honestly.

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