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Excuse me, I am amazed. (12 posts)

  1. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I have always been confused abt pingbacks and trackbacks.
    Today I got my first taste of pingbacks. I post on a blog linking to another blog's post and both blog pings to same server such as blog.gs the second blog automatically picks up that first blog linking to itself. Am I right?
    and am still confused abt trackbacks...

  2. Michael Heilemann
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Some blogs will tell you a 'trackback link' when you're reading an entry. You can copy this link and paste it in WordPress when you're writing a new entry (there's a specific Trackback textbox). Then when you post WP will automatically ping the trackback url and tell the other blog that you've written an entry that has some relation to that trackback link, and voila you're doing remote commenting.
    Did that help?

  3. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    amazing but how do pingback works?
    all i did was posted a url to another wp blog in my blog.
    and that blog automatically picked up my blog.
    does blog.gs did that middle communication?

  4. Michael Heilemann
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'm not 100% sure, but the way I think it works is that when WP posts the entry it automatically sends out a ping to all the links in the post. If the site on the other end is equipped to deal with this ping then it will say "Thank you very much, I'll list this as a reference from you".
    blo.gs is automatically ping - provided that it's enabled in the config - whenever you post an entry.

  5. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    pretty cool. so linking the proper text to other related content on the web can actually bring back the source blog to connect to me. i think i m understanding the concept a little bit!

  6. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I've had a few trackbacks on my blog lately if you want to see it in action. It shows up on my blog when they enter the URL (given at the top of the pop-up window when you click "trackback" under an entry) in the right place as they write their article. Michael's "remote commenting" is a good quick description of the process.

  7. Dougal Campbell
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Sushubh: blo.gs isn't involved when you do pingbacks or trackbacks. Those occur directly between you and the blog you reference.
    Pingbacks and trackbacks are similar in general function, but a little different in the details of how they occur.
    When you put a new post on your blog with a link in it, WordPress will connect to that URL, look for a special header that indicates pingback support, then use that information to notify the other blog about the ping.
    Trackbacks work similarly, but without the autodetection. You must manually specify the trackback URLs. The trackback specification added some auto-detection facilities after-the-fact, but not many sites have actually implemented it.

  8. Michael Heilemann
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    A good deal I think. All the serious ones anyway...

  9. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Movable Type supports both trackbacks and pingbacks. In fact, I think MT invented them.

  10. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Now... If in a new post I link to any of the older post of my blog, as expected it gets a pingback... Does these pingbacks defeats the original purpose of the technology? or is this one of the benefits!

  11. Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 10 years ago #

    MT only supports trackbacks, not pingbacks.

  12. Xial
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Sushubh, I count pingbacks as a benefit.
    It makes it much easier to refer to a source when writing in my own 'blog, as well as being easier to be referred to. Sometimes, someone might say something that strikes you as insightful or funny, so when you link to it, your readers benefit. But what of the other person?
    Pingbacks make it easier for the other person to benefit: What if, in response to an entry, you write something they find insightful? Without pingbacks (or trackbacks, but I find these too manual to remember: must ping a special URL just to do it; pingbacks are much simpler, and thus make things friendlier on users), that person would never know.
    And, honestly, my biggest reason for choosing WordPress was that it supported pingbacks. After reading xiven.com and ln.hixie.ch and all their talks of pingback, I really wanted it.
    ;3

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