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1 star
  1. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Error.
    So huge plugin folder size. So many unnecessary things may be.
    Also included Joomla!!

  2. crosstec
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    It is pretty unfair and misleading what you are writing. And starting a review with a plain and non-helpful "Error" shows the level of your experience in technology (=zero).

    There are NO unnecessary things inside and what you call joomla is nothing else than a programming framework with the same name and not the cms. And hallo, it is 2013. These days plugins may have a bigger size than just 2MB.

    Change your review and tone or at least ask questions in our forums if you have problems instead of whining around and downrating an entire plugin for no reason.

  3. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @itsazzad

    A plug-in's contents are not downloaded to a client's computer. It would not effect the overall size of your site. And by huge, it is not nearly huge enough to make even a 1% dent in your host's allowance for storage, so what's the problem?

    Also, like @crosstec says... error? That's it? You gave up? Maybe the error was that you were not connected to the internet at the time? With no information and complaining before seeking a solution you miss out. Professional developers are not grocery store employees. They will not apologize to you when it is you that is making the mistake. I have found that they do appreciate knowing if a situation arises and will usually go out of their way to help. Well, most all of them... they have ignored my paid member support request for over two weeks... but that's another story. I think it's a mistake anyways and after awhile I stopped watching it.

    Furthermore, you are missing out on what is probably the best forms solution available on WordPress. It is powerful, easy to use, and amazing. Does more than I could have dreamed of.

  4. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    If I could attach the plugin files then I would do it. I used breezing-forms.1.2.5.17.
    Here was the file structure after I created WPISNEW:
    breezingforms-icon.png
    breezingforms.php
    BreezingFormsWidget.php
    index.html
    joomla-platform
    LICENSE
    readme.txt
    screenshot-1.png
    screenshot-2.png
    screenshot-3.png
    screenshot-4.png
    WPISNEW

    I have given full write permission getting error:

    Error
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Copy failed
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Unable to create target folder
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Unable to create target folder
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Unable to create target folder
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Copy failed
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Unable to create target folder
    JFolder::create: Could not create directory
    Unable to create target folder
    Copy failed

    Warning: file_put_contents(/.../wp-content/breezingforms/WPISNEW) [function.file-put-contents]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /.../wp-content/plugins/breezing-forms/joomla-platform/libraries/joomla/filesystem/file.php on line 418

    Thanks

  5. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    You should have included that info 2 months ago... and preferably in the support forum, or on their website. Then the developers would have had a fair chance to correct things. Perhaps they mistakenly uploaded the joomla version of their plugin???

    Now you've given a developer a 1 star rating for software that imho deserves at least a 4 star rating. I tested v1.2.7.7. It has some minor bugs, but overall works great!

    Why not try the latest version?

  6. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @yezzz Let me help elaborate. I suspect that @itszzad can work it out if we point him in the right direction.

    @itszzad OK, now you are talking, we are getting there. I am not sure what the WPISNEW directory is. Did you try just installing the plug-in through the installer in the wp-admin?

    According to the error I see above, you are trying to "put" a folder where the is no folder. If you look closely at the two paths above, they are different. Look closely:

    `file_put_contents(/.../wp-content/breezingforms/WPISNEW)
    No such file or directory in /.../wp-content/plugins/breezing-forms/joomla-platform/libraries/joomla/filesystem/file.php`

    So I am thinking that you are way off on your install. You should just be able to use the wordpress plug-in installer to get it rolling. There should be no need to upload it manually.

    If you must, it goes into the "wp-content/plugins/" folder. The folder must be named "breezing-forms". There is no need for a WPISNEW folder.

    But this is not the place for support. I am not going to help any further because I have other stuff to do right now.
    . But you can get help, just do the following:

    You have the relevant error information. Go get the version of your current WordPress and also include the plug-in version.

    Then armed with that information, first create an account for the forum:

    Then visit the forum for the plug-in and post your query there.

    I do not mean to come off as a jerk, but really the forum is always the most appropriate place to get support. I do not mean to sound down on you or whatever, I am just trying to help out here.

    I hope that you consider going to the forums. Once you see how great this plug-in really is, you should consider coming back and editing your review. You might find that this forms plug-in is not for you. (It might do too much.) If all you require is a simple contact form, there are other solutions that are not as capable, but much simpler to use. What you gain in ease-of-use, you lose in functionality. Always a trade off. If that ends up being the case, I urge you to delete your review. I just think that it's not fair to ding the devs for something that is your error.

    If it turns out that it is indeed their error, and the plug-in is crap then by all means leave the review stand. But from my experience both on WordPress and Joomla is that it is a reliable and powerful plug-in. I have never had it fail on install, ever.

    I wish you luck, and I wish you only success in your project.

  7. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Last time I used another plugin which was error free.
    So when I will need again any form plugin then if I have chance to test it again, I will try to update my rating. But right now it should be <1 star as it was simply wasting of my time. You should test before uploading the package for the public.
    Better luck next time.

  8. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    You are an idiot.

  9. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Agree. Beyond help.

    Never heard of human error.

  10. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @osmosisinc Then you are Super Idiot. And a broker!! Stupid!!!

  11. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    A broker? What does that even mean?

    Your error (that you didn't read, as it contains the answer as to why your plug-in doesn't work) is so bizarre. Why would anyone need a directory called "WPISNEW" inside of the "breezingforms" directory?

      • First of all, the plug-ins go in the "wp-plugins" directory inside of "wp-content" .
      • Secondly the correct directory is "breezing-forms" not the incorrect "breezingforms" directory as spelled by ding-dong up there.
      • Thirdly, except for the need to fully embrace being wrong, why have a directory called "WPISNEW" at all?

    I mean unless one is a total idiot of course.

    And then to tie the perfect circle of stupidity together, insist that the dev's should have thought ahead enough that someone so completely stupid would try and install the plug-in outside of their actual plug-in's folder in a custom named directory. They should have tested against that eventuality!

    It's people like @itsazzad that make the world a bad place.

  12. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Actually, "wpisnew" is not what itsazzad invented, it's what the devs used:

    \wp-content\plugins\breezing-forms\platform\administrator\components\com_breezingforms\admin.breezingforms.php

    Line 80:     $wpisnew = '###';
     Line 81:     JFile::write(WP_CONTENT_DIR.DS.'breezingforms'.DS.'WPISNEW',$wpisnew);

    The above is from v1.2.7.x

    There's lots of references to joomla in the code, so I understand where that's coming from.

  13. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Hey osmosisinc,
    Do you not know that you are a bad guy for the reputation of this plugin? If this plugin would be good enough for others then only my review would not affect the whole reviews. And why you people are in so much hurry for changing my review although you think me as a stupid?! Keep patience and give good service only then you can get good. Don't search for a short-cut. My type of bad people can not harm good thing. Good always trump finally!

  14. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Then leave the review as it is.

    This world ain't perfect.

    Peace!

  15. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Keep it the same. Whatever. I really like these guys that is all. I am a customer, but I do not know them outside of that.

    I am pissed because I tried to help you and you were smug about me trying to help you. I went to all of the trouble to find you some links, write a full essay about what you could do to get your project off of the ground, and you didn't even say thanks. Instead you said "Better Luck Next Time" implying that I was trying to do something else besides helping you.

    It was rude.

    Maybe the plug-in is messed up. I don't know. In my first response I said:

    If it turns out that it is indeed their error, and the plug-in is crap then by all means leave the review stand. But from my experience both on WordPress and Joomla is that it is a reliable and powerful plug-in. I have never had it fail on install, ever.

    Leave it stand, I don't really care that much.

    My point was that because you can't get it to work, you should at least try and contact the dev before trying to shred their reputation. That's all.

  16. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @itsazzad: I have checked through your posting history and you didn't even attempt to contact the plugin's developer via the plugin's dedicated sub-forum. It's obvious from the discussion here that, had you done so, your problems would probably have been resolved. As a result, your "review" has no real merit and should be considered null & void.

  17. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    And I should not let these things bother me, I apologize for my tone and words used. I should try and be more patient as I see that some of the errors are from a "port".

    I would add a "regardless" but I think this discussion is at an end. All has been said.

  18. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @osmosisinc: Your help is appreciated. Just not by everyone ;-)

  19. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @esmi: Can you please inform me what are the criterion‎s for giving a review? I installed the plugin and just after installing it and before using it I got all those errors. Should I give 5 Star then? I could use 0%. Please let me know why should I not give 1 Star for that version after using from here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9mxytelnNt0bGxOSks2ZXBZV0U/edit?usp=sharing

    Please dont comment before using that version. Please check it and let me know.
    I used Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5/PHP Version 5.3.1

    Thanks.

  20. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    That's The Joomla Version. That's why it didn't work. You downloaded the wrong version of the plugin.

    Try downloading the WordPress version and maybe you might get it to work out.

    Nice. If you had just gotten in touch with the dev, maybe they could have helped you.

    Also, try getting the plug-in from: http://wordpress.org/plugins/breezing-forms/ to assure that you actually get the right one.

    That is why I told you to contact the dev. That is why I told you to give it a chance. But no.... you wouldn't listen. Now we all see the mistake you made.

    Why not try installing the plug-in correctly using the correct version and go from there?

  21. itsazzad
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    Hey @ osmosisinc,
    Please dont try to write anymore comment here before viewing the codes. How it can be a Joomla plugin structure. Don't try to teach any other in a wrong way. I know very well what to get from where. Nonsense guy.

  22. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @itsazzad Actually, you are correct. I appologize. It's weird that it's all joomla stuff in the WordPress plug-in files. I think that for the sake of less confusion they should have done a more thorough job.

    I never looked because it just always worked for me.

    I think your review would have been better stated that the plug-in is a poor Joomla port and perhaps did some explaining why it failed, or what was going on.

    I think that is a language barrier thing. I get that english is not your first language, and because of that I thought you were being unclear. It just dawned on me that english is not your first language. I just thought you were being rude.

    I wish I could erase the previous posts earlier, and I am sorry to have rushed to judgement.

    Just for the record, no, I don't work for or are affiliated with the devs at all. I think that you should change your review to be more accurate and you are right to have given it one star.

    The moderator did not delete your rating. It still stands. She too fell victim to the language barrier thing.

    Again accept my apologies for being a jerk, I really do regret it.

  23. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @itsazzad: You should have initially tried to contact the plugin's developer if you had errors. You didn't.

    The plugin author then responded to your initial, rather sparse, review and explained that

    what you call joomla is nothing else than a programming framework with the same name and not the cms

    and you failed to respond in a positive manner.

    Finally, a plugin's size is no reason to give a poor review - unless you have have already verified (ideally with the plugin's author) that it contains unnecessary files. At present, all I see is someone whose server permissions did not allow the creation of a new folder - which is not a plugin issue.

  24. osmosisinc
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    I have revised my review of this plug-in and lowered it to a 3 star rating. Not because of itzzad, but because I have been working with it all morning to no avail. The plug-in is just not ready yet. I think the majority of positive reviews are coming from Joomla users that are familiar with the plug-in (like me). On Joomla, this is a very powerful extension, but the port is poor and it needs work to be of proper quality.

    Its a shame too. It's really great when it works.

    Also, I have been using support on their site, not through their WP forum.

    Please also note that they have 0 of 5 questions answered in that forum.

  25. crosstec
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 9 months ago #

    Stop _discriminating_ our decision to use the joomla framework for this plugin.

    Are you aware that joomla has a regular programming framework called "joomla framework"? (formerly known as "joomla platform") that has nothing to do with the cms??? it is part of the called open source GPL2 family -- so to say a family member of WordPress. And what the hell you decide by listing a few files what is necessary and what is not?

    As developer of breezingforms and long year gpl developer I find it frustrating and very _discriminatory_ to get judged by people who are obviously not even aware what a framework is. Sorry to say that but I never faced a discussion like this on the joomla side -- in 8 years, though there are plenty of extensions that ship with wordpress code and are very popular

    However, you can keep downrating our plugin, I don't care. Of course we are listening though and we started to develop BreezingForms 2. And guess what, it won't be either base on WordPress nor on the Joomla APIs

    @osmosisinc
    I don't agree with you lowering your rating, our plugin is mature and working pretty well.

  26. yezzz
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @osmosisinc:
    I hadn't noticed before, but there is indeed a breezingforms directory. It's not in the plugins folder (where one would expect it) but in the wp-content folder. Thinking it was an install bug I removed that folder and the /plugins/breezing-forms folder and reinstalled the plugin, to find that the breezingforms folder gets created after activating the plugin and first-time viewing its admin page (where it creates db tables).

    @crosstec:
    thanks for info about the joomla framework. Is that what's inside the breezingforms directory? Can it be that the non-standard folder causes problems like I reported here or conflicts with other plugins?
    (perhaps an advanced wp user like esmi could comment on this as well)

    Perhaps you think conflicts with other plugins are not your problem, but your plugins features (like the script and pieces) would make it great to use within, or make it interact with, other plugins (and more users means more sales, right?)

    Despite some issues I love this plugin and will buy it after finding out what causes the issue I reported.

  27. DDiaz
    Member
    Posted 2 weeks ago #

    I have not purchased this software. I was about to until I read the "communication skills" of this developer when dealing with customers. At this point, I won't use or purchase ANYTHING from a company or developer that demonstrates poor customer service to its existing customers. I was SHOCKED at the reviews I read here and how the developer responded! Would you want to communicate with someone that aggressive, dismissive, and right down primitive? Not me. I'll save my money and efforts - and deal with someone both professional and courteous. Read this developer's response to the negative reviews on this site and you'll understand what I mean.

  28. crosstec
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 weeks ago #

    DDiaz, can you go somewhere else please?

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