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Does Kitten's Spaminator check Trackbacks & Pingbacks? (35 posts)

  1. Amit Gupta
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    hi
    is anyone using Kitten's Spaminator? Does it work on the spam Trackbacks & Pingbacks? After I installed it, all that huge amount of comment spam that I got, was caught & deleted but for the past 2 days, I've been getting spam Trackbacks & Pingbacks from everywhere & Spaminator is not acting on them. Can anyone suggest why?

    The trackbacks & pingbacks doesn't contain any links or blacklisted words, so maybe that's why Spaminator is not catching them. Just some nonsense like

    xrie
    cispbjyvia

    from some freak named mbvnwugc from the IP 65.25.143.195. Clearly the purpose of this is not link popularity as its in comment spam. I think that this is a frustrated reaction of the spammer as he can't get any of his spam comments through my defenses.

    Can anyone suggest anything? Please do not suggest closing down trackbacks etc on old posts as I wouldn't want to block legit trackbacks to old posts of mine.

  2. TheRoss
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I'm getting the same kind of nonsense, see:

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic.php?id=19944

    I am using Spam Karma, and it isn't blocking these at all, but I'm not sure how much it could be expected to do random words from random sources.

  3. charle97
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    in 1.5, they would catch it. of course, all trackbacks, good and bad, would probably be flagged as spam by spaminator under 1.5 because of the way trackbacks are handled.

  4. I just got one today. I haven't gotten any spam since I installed WP, but I'm using Spam Karma just in case.

    If it gets more frequent, hopefully something needs to be done.

    I don't understand how it got through because:

    a) I close my comments after 10 days
    b) The trackback was for a post made back in October 2004

    *shrugs*

  5. TheRoss
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    It seems like spam karma's comment closing doesn't affect trackbacks. Are there neccessary hooks availble for plugins to stop trackbacks in the same way?

  6. charle97
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    no, but there is a way if you're using 1.2 through 1.3. in 1.5, you're pretty much screwed. trackbacks are funneled as comments. if there's a referer check like in spaminator, all trackbacks would be flagged because there is no redirect_to to check against.

  7. Spam Karma doesn't have comment closing...I don't think. Rather, I'm using Auto shutoff comments.

    Going to think for a few minutes on switching over to Kitten's Spaminator...

  8. ouwereus
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    For now I've chmod-ed wp-trackback.php to 700. I'm getting no responces through trackback so i don't mind.

  9. charle97
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    switching to spaminator is not going to help.

  10. charlie97: Oh. Um, alright then. I guess I'll just sit on my hands and wait. =) *LoL*

  11. BAKSHI
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    mmmhmm

    Can the creator of stopgap also make some way to battle trackback spammers?

    From: "A Slice of Americana" <wordpress@michael.bakshi.us>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

    New trackback on your post # "Drool.."

    Website: zeoogpziv (IP: 24.250.102.125 , ip24-250-102-125.dc.dc.cox.net)

    URI : http://ykioycfyuvwx.com/

    Excerpt:
    <trackback />yvhvhgdrc
    juepyce

    You can see all trackbacks on this post here:

    http://michael.bakshi.us/archives/2004/05/30/drool/#comments

  12. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The garbage spammer is just out to annoy us. I've gotten a few. But trackback/pingback spam is a problem that hasn't been addressed yet, unlike spambot generated stuff.

  13. error
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I'm in the middle of writing something to address trackback spam. What I have already would have killed one of the two that were posted in this thread, and it's already killed one attempt at my site, so I'll see what I can do about polishing it up and releasing it.

  14. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Drop me a note, we might have similar ideas.

  15. Lee Penney
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    This has hit me in the last couple of days. The IP addresses and referers seem almost random, as do the sites they come from. Now they've gone from complete garbage to p0rn and weird stuff (not something you'd want to be associated with, put it that way).

    This is something that needs addressing ASAP.

  16. Tek
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Me too!

  17. ouwereus: Changing the file permissions for wp-trackback.php to 700 didn't work. Anybody know how to get this done? (Oh yeah, I've just been getting ripped as well.) Thanks... =)

  18. Amit Gupta
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    btvillarin:

    I don't understand how it got through because:

    a) I close my comments after 10 days
    b) The trackback was for a post made back in October 2004

    Its because shutting off comments is not same as shutting off trackbacks & pingbacks. each of them needs to be shutoff seperately.

    The spammer hasn't made any trackbacks/pingbacks in the last couple of days but I'm sure he or someone will be back at it again.

    Something must be done about this.

  19. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    http://www.tamba2.org.uk/wordpress/spam

    A couple of solutions are there now.

  20. Amit Gupta
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    podz, the solution to trackback spam that you have there is of no actual use, not atleast to me. I just don't trust Spaminator completely, so even after having it enabled, I've also got moderation of all comments/trackbacks/pingbacks enabled so that every comment/trackback/pingback that survives Spaminator ends up in moderation & I approve it before it appears. So as suggested on that page, trackbacks already end up in moderation for me. The second solution suggested is to close trackbacks which I won't, as I said in my first post. Just b'coz I'm being hit by spammers, I won't give in by closing them & leaving out the odd legit trackback that I might get.
    And the problem is that spam trackbacks/pingbacks aren't just 2-3 in number, they are a lot more, sometimes more than 50, sometimes more than 200, making it tough to delete them. :(

  21. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    And don't forget that this is new to the devs and the coders too - they are working on it, but this is all free stuff, they have other things to do etc etc etc.

  22. Amit Gupta
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    yeah I know. I'm not new to it so don't give me that free stuff thing. ;)
    I was just saying that this is an important issue, just like comment spam & needs to be dealt with asap.

  23. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    If you get the current version of Spaminator from the plugins repo:
    http://dev.wp-plugins.org/browser/spaminator/trunk/

    and are using a nightly from Jan/05/05 or later, it'll filter comments, trackbacks and pingbacks.

  24. Bampi
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Hi Kitten,

    What about the current version of Spaminator with using a Mingus?
    Is it as effective as using a nightly?

  25. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Bampi,
    My understanding is that it is not backwards-compatible.

  26. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Bampi,

    Version 1.0rc3 and older will work on WP 1.2.2 and older, but they won't check trackbacks. That's only for the recent nightlies.

    Basically, since WP CVS has gone beta, the API has stabilised, and hopfully will be released soon enough. The move from alpha -> beta was enough to spur me to focus on the upcoming release, rather than retrofit trackback checking code into 1.2.x.

    Don't use beta software on a production blog, unless you like your site to be "interesting."

  27. Bampi
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thank you very much, NuclearMoose and Kitten.

    I use 1.0rc4 with Mingus, to be exact, Japanese Version v1.2.3 based on Mingus (http://wordpress.xwd.jp/).

    Since I'm a newbie to PHP, I don't have the guts to upgrade it to beta version. I guess I have to deal with spam trackbacks and referer spams somehow until the new version gets stable enough for me to upgrade.

    In the meantime, I use Spaminator, .htaccess file, and Blacklist. What else can I add?

  28. Bampi: Perhaps you can disable all pings thru phpMyAdmin until you upgrade. Thinking more like what Kitten just said above (not to use beta software on a production blog), mine isn't that much of a production blog - so I'll probably upgrade so Spaminator can be more effective. Plus, I like to be interesting. :)

  29. Or just send all trackbacks to moderation.
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic.php?id=20106

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