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Do you need a rss, xml & atom feeds for all to put your URL into a reader? (35 posts)

  1. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    The url for the wordpress blog is:
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss.php

    I have been seeing alot of different extentions:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

    RSS FEEDS:
    http://www.bloglines.com/blog/MYBLOGNAME/rss

    Is the wordpress blog feed all I need in order for everyone to be able to read this through their reader or through a service like My Yahoo, Newsgator etc?

    Or do I have to create these different feeds with special extentions in order to do this?

  2. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    You already have these syndication types with WordPress:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss2.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rdf.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-atom.php

    You can also access them this way:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rss
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rss2
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rdf
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=atom

    Those who use custom permalinks should be able to reach them through:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rss
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rss2
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rdf
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/atom

    File extensions should be unimportant for any current feed reader; if it isn't, the developers of that reader really need to get on the ball.

  3. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    How come the rdf and the atom feeds don't show up like the rss does.

    The rdf and the atom when I access them through the browser says I have to download the file from that location.

  4. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    Because those two syndication types are not in an XML DTD format understood by most web browsers. If you download and open them in a text editor though, you can view their contents that way.

  5. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    So the WP rss feeds are fine for any readers?

  6. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    "So the WP rss feeds are fine for any readers?"

    Theoretically, yes. There is a small group of users having problems with certain rss services reading their feeds, but most of this seems to be bugginess based on the OS and/or web server WordPress is running on. Hopefully a lot of this will be resolved for those folk in 1.5.1.

  7. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Where can I read more about this?

  8. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    More about what?

    If about the problems a minority of WP users are having, start searching through the forums, or the WordPress bug database:

    http://mosquito.wordpress.org/

    If about RSS, one can find a huge amount of basic and introductory stuff on it by searching Google or Yahoo.

  9. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    So this site:
    http://mosquito.wordpress.org/

    goes over all the bugs people find with WP?

  10. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    Yes. At least, for those bugs people bother to report.

  11. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    How would I also make my WP feed look like this using these different
    extentions:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

  12. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    You would have to use a rewrite rule (i.e. mod_rewrite) through your .htacccess to point those at your WP feed files or queries. An example would be:

    RewriteRule ^index.xml /wp-rss2.php

    Currently WordPress does not create and maintain true static files, so you have to *fake* such urls.

  13. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    anyway around writing to the .htacccess file?

    The web server I am on does not allow writing to it.

  14. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I still do not quite understand what you are saying.

    Do you have a URL that I could read more about this?

  15. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 8 years ago #

    "Currently WordPress does not create and maintain true static files, so you have to *fake* such urls."

    That pretty much answers your question about having .xml files. WordPress generates the content of your blog, feeds, and everything else, *dynamically*. To do this it must use PHP-enabled files.

    The WordPress Codex does a good jod delineating static and dynamic documents here:
    http://codex.wordpress.org/Pages#A_Note_on_Nomenclature

    Pages on Static/Dynamic sites:
    http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~jfulton/php1/static-dynamic.html
    http://demo.garbuz.com/index.php?id=16
    http://www.movalog.com/archives/templates/dynamic-vs-static.php

    And this page describes the issue of "masquerading" dynamic documents as static, as I mention above:
    http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/dynamicstatic.shtml

  16. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I think this plugin is exactly what you're looking for: http://boren.nu/archives/2005/03/29/feed-director-plugin/

  17. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Wonderful. I loaded up in my plugins activated it, now how do I use it.

    You don't have any directions on your site.
    http://boren.nu/archives/2005/03/29/feed-director-plugin/

    THANKS IN ADVANCE.

  18. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Well, that's not my site, but the plug should be functioning properly immediately after you activate it. There should be no further user intervention required.

  19. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Yes but what do you do to make it work?

  20. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Login, go to "Plugins", click "Activate", and immediately "Files such as index.xml, index.rdf, rss.xml, rss2.xml, atom.xml, *.xml are directed to the appropriate WP handler."

  21. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I understand that part, what are the URLs to my feeds now?

  22. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I cannot even find .htaccess. where is it suppossed to be?

  23. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Oops. I know I saw it somewhere. Were is it stored? It is in dashboard files, but I cannot find it on my server.

  24. Lorelle
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    .htacess is in the root directory of wherever you installed wordpress, or in the root directory itself. Or wherever you "put it".

    I don't know what "dashboard files" are so I can't answer that part of the question.

  25. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    ilovetheweb, your feed URLs are what they always have been, but if a bot comes spidering your site looking for an index.xml feed, they will find the correct feed.

  26. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    So these are my feeds?
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-179433

    If it is, I am still getting the MS File download box.

    It says:

    You have chosen to download a file from this location.

    Then I am being asked:

    What would you like to do with this file?

    Open this file from its location OR
    Save this file to disk?

    I fail to see how these atom and rdf URLs are useful to me.

    How do I make a feed like this:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

  27. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Run /wp-admin/upgrade.php

  28. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    actually .htaccess appears to be hidden. I can only access it from dashboard. It has a built in file editor

  29. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Instructions on how to view hidden files with popular FTP clients: http://www.tamba2.org.uk/wordpress/ftp/

  30. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Ok, I did this:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-180507

    But I am still getting this problem:

    How do I make a feed like this:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-180456

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

    So far no ones suggestions are working.

    Can anyone help?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE.

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