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Do you need a rss, xml & atom feeds for all to put your URL into a reader? (35 posts)

  1. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The url for the wordpress blog is:
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss.php

    I have been seeing alot of different extentions:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

    RSS FEEDS:
    http://www.bloglines.com/blog/MYBLOGNAME/rss

    Is the wordpress blog feed all I need in order for everyone to be able to read this through their reader or through a service like My Yahoo, Newsgator etc?

    Or do I have to create these different feeds with special extentions in order to do this?

  2. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    You already have these syndication types with WordPress:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rss2.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-rdf.php
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/wp-atom.php

    You can also access them this way:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rss
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rss2
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=rdf
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/?feed=atom

    Those who use custom permalinks should be able to reach them through:

    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rss
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rss2
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/rdf
    http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/feed/atom

    File extensions should be unimportant for any current feed reader; if it isn't, the developers of that reader really need to get on the ball.

  3. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    How come the rdf and the atom feeds don't show up like the rss does.

    The rdf and the atom when I access them through the browser says I have to download the file from that location.

  4. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    Because those two syndication types are not in an XML DTD format understood by most web browsers. If you download and open them in a text editor though, you can view their contents that way.

  5. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So the WP rss feeds are fine for any readers?

  6. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    "So the WP rss feeds are fine for any readers?"

    Theoretically, yes. There is a small group of users having problems with certain rss services reading their feeds, but most of this seems to be bugginess based on the OS and/or web server WordPress is running on. Hopefully a lot of this will be resolved for those folk in 1.5.1.

  7. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Where can I read more about this?

  8. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    More about what?

    If about the problems a minority of WP users are having, start searching through the forums, or the WordPress bug database:

    http://mosquito.wordpress.org/

    If about RSS, one can find a huge amount of basic and introductory stuff on it by searching Google or Yahoo.

  9. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So this site:
    http://mosquito.wordpress.org/

    goes over all the bugs people find with WP?

  10. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yes. At least, for those bugs people bother to report.

  11. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    How would I also make my WP feed look like this using these different
    extentions:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

  12. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    You would have to use a rewrite rule (i.e. mod_rewrite) through your .htacccess to point those at your WP feed files or queries. An example would be:

    RewriteRule ^index.xml /wp-rss2.php

    Currently WordPress does not create and maintain true static files, so you have to *fake* such urls.

  13. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    anyway around writing to the .htacccess file?

    The web server I am on does not allow writing to it.

  14. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I still do not quite understand what you are saying.

    Do you have a URL that I could read more about this?

  15. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    "Currently WordPress does not create and maintain true static files, so you have to *fake* such urls."

    That pretty much answers your question about having .xml files. WordPress generates the content of your blog, feeds, and everything else, *dynamically*. To do this it must use PHP-enabled files.

    The WordPress Codex does a good jod delineating static and dynamic documents here:
    http://codex.wordpress.org/Pages#A_Note_on_Nomenclature

    Pages on Static/Dynamic sites:
    http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~jfulton/php1/static-dynamic.html
    http://demo.garbuz.com/index.php?id=16
    http://www.movalog.com/archives/templates/dynamic-vs-static.php

    And this page describes the issue of "masquerading" dynamic documents as static, as I mention above:
    http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/dynamicstatic.shtml

  16. I think this plugin is exactly what you're looking for: http://boren.nu/archives/2005/03/29/feed-director-plugin/

  17. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Wonderful. I loaded up in my plugins activated it, now how do I use it.

    You don't have any directions on your site.
    http://boren.nu/archives/2005/03/29/feed-director-plugin/

    THANKS IN ADVANCE.

  18. Well, that's not my site, but the plug should be functioning properly immediately after you activate it. There should be no further user intervention required.

  19. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yes but what do you do to make it work?

  20. Login, go to "Plugins", click "Activate", and immediately "Files such as index.xml, index.rdf, rss.xml, rss2.xml, atom.xml, *.xml are directed to the appropriate WP handler."

  21. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I understand that part, what are the URLs to my feeds now?

  22. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I cannot even find .htaccess. where is it suppossed to be?

  23. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Oops. I know I saw it somewhere. Were is it stored? It is in dashboard files, but I cannot find it on my server.

  24. Lorelle
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    .htacess is in the root directory of wherever you installed wordpress, or in the root directory itself. Or wherever you "put it".

    I don't know what "dashboard files" are so I can't answer that part of the question.

  25. ilovetheweb, your feed URLs are what they always have been, but if a bot comes spidering your site looking for an index.xml feed, they will find the correct feed.

  26. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So these are my feeds?
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-179433

    If it is, I am still getting the MS File download box.

    It says:

    You have chosen to download a file from this location.

    Then I am being asked:

    What would you like to do with this file?

    Open this file from its location OR
    Save this file to disk?

    I fail to see how these atom and rdf URLs are useful to me.

    How do I make a feed like this:

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

  27. Run /wp-admin/upgrade.php

  28. brianbonner
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    actually .htaccess appears to be hidden. I can only access it from dashboard. It has a built in file editor

  29. Instructions on how to view hidden files with popular FTP clients: http://www.tamba2.org.uk/wordpress/ftp/

  30. ilovetheweb
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Ok, I did this:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-180507

    But I am still getting this problem:

    How do I make a feed like this:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/31750#post-180456

    XML FEEDS - example:
    http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/index.xml

    ATOM FEEDS:
    http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/atom.xml

    So far no ones suggestions are working.

    Can anyone help?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE.

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