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Do Not Steal Layouts (21 posts)

  1. masquerade
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. skippy
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    For the record, WordPress does not condone site vandalism.

  3. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    Question: Is it really vandalism when all you've done is change the javascript on *your* site? Discuss.

  4. skippy
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    An interesting question, Kafkaesqui. It's quite clear that the intent of modifying the javascript was to cause harm to another site.

  5. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    So then is switching out a hot-linked image (a method practiced often) a form of defacement?

  6. skippy
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I don't know.

    You raised an interesting question. It's complicated. I don't have the breadth of experience to know all of the details, or have definitive answers for every situation.

  7. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 9 years ago #

    If you don't link anywhere to take content, then code can't be altered .....

  8. masquerade
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I say that if someone alters something that you are using without permission, then there's nothing illegal about it. It'd be like my neighbors suing me for changing my cable setup which they're tapped into, thereby breaking the stolen cable.

  9. Michael Bishop

    Posted 9 years ago #

    No, but rigging the cable to pump the Spice Channel when their kids turned on Disney Channel might be kinda wrong. Legal issues aside.

  10. masquerade
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The difference is, this is a notice about him stealing a theme, not a huge picture of the goatse guy or something

  11. Ryan Duff
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    hah, the goatse guy, now that would have been classic. How long before they notice, seems like its been a few hours...

    [edit]
    Although, since he did copy, he probably has no clue whats causing it, when he viewes source, it looks like what it should. DOPE!

  12. billsaysthis
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well, you might update the file to print the message in Spanish as well as English...

  13. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    skippy, no sweat. I threw out the questions because I found this interesting as well. I tend to be against the pseudo-defacement method of getting back at people doing this sort of thing, but I'm not sure where the line in all this is effectively drawn. I think a good case can be made on both sides of the argument, therein my "discuss."

  14. kickass
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Anyone stealing design AND bandwidth is just asking for it. Bigtime.

    And, if the response is done in such a way that the ripper's actual server and site is not touched in any way, shape or form, that is just poetic justice- though I might have gotten a bit more creative about what to show on the ripper's page, maybe even disgustingly creative *evil grin* In fact, if anyone needs some rather unbelievable images for the purpose, contact me. Heh!

  15. masquerade
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I don't think dropping to immaturity would be the greatest thing ever, but its realy up to Shawn Grimes.

  16. pizdin_dim
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    "It's quite clear that the intent of modifying the javascript was to cause harm to another site"

    How is this so? it's _not_ clear to me at all that the intent was to cause harm to another site. You can do whatever you like on your own site, after all it is _your_ site. So why should anybody else using the code and your bandwidth be taken into consideration at all?

    I don't get where the ambiguity lies.

  17. shep
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    i agree with pizdin_dim. It is shawn's site, and he has every right to do whatever he wants with it. It it affects someone who is literally stealing shawn's work, then that is not shawn's problem.

    that's like a robber suing because he got hurt breaking into your house.

  18. admiraljustin
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Saying that using javascript is wrong is saying that deleting his entire blog, which is within a site owner's perfectly acceptable actions, is harmful, because it alters the other site's data.

  19. pcmt
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    For what it's worth (and rather late in the day), if the "thief" has used Shawn's JavaScript by linking to it, it seems pretty clear that he - the "thief" - has only himself to blame.

  20. shorty114
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    that's like a robber suing because he got hurt breaking into your house.

    I think that actually happened, some robber was robbing a house, and went onto the roof, and it collapsed under him. He then sued the house owner, whom he had robbed from, for a bad roof, and won.

  21. masquerade
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thus proving that our society is retarded.

    Btw, the theif finally took down his layout the other day, for what its worth.

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