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DIE IE! (IE not showing CSS edits, FF all OK -- NEED HELP!) (5 posts)

  1. Craw4x4PH
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    When I do CSS edits I would be able to work it out on FF, but I'm lost as IE won't show ANY of my edits at all!

    What I do is I use the Kubrick theme then edit it and make it look entirely like a different theme. I don't plan on releasing this, it's just for my personal blog/site and client sites... but Internet Exploder is delaying this project so much that I'm way overdue and couldn't collect! :(

    Please help. The sites are http://www.themtbjunkie.com (personal) and http://www.totalenhance.com/site (client)

    I'm using version 2.7 on both sites.

    Thanks in advance.

  2. Saurus
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    IE normally requires a number of hacks to display CSS as intended, as you've just discovered. What hacks you need depends on what you're trying to do. Microsoft - being Microsoft - apparently has decided that they do not need to comply with W3C international standards for html4 and CSS2.

    My answer to MS is I (and many of the top CSS gurus as well, btw) code all my sites in FF and anyone dumb enough to use a non-conforming browser - especially IE6 - is on their own. IE8 is supposed to be a little better, but still doesn't totally conform.

    Doesn't help you with your problem, but I feel better:)

    By the way ... Kubrick may not be the best template to start playing with. A better solution might be to start from scratch, since you probably have done a lot of edits to your style sheet already. All you really need to do is create your own php pages for the 4 files WP requires and go from there by adding individual php calls on each of the appropriate pages. The files required - but not limited to - any template are: sidebar.php, footer.php, header.php, and comments.php. You would basically use your ftp of choice and make a new theme in your themes folder and name it whatever you want to call your theme. Then you upload the original Kubrick php files EXCEPT the index.php file. Also upload your styles.css file, and make an images sub-folder.

    Then go to the Codex and locate the template design section and get whatever template tags you want to include from The Loop section to construct a new index.php file.

  3. La M
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    What specifically are you trying to do?

    As the person above said, you should get it working properly in a standards-compliant browser first and only then do what is necessary to make IE do the same thing - somethings a few hacks, sometimes a completely different stylesheet that is used for IE only.

    Your site is a fairly simple layout so it shouldn't be too much of a nightmare to achieve.

    Try installing the Firefox plugin, Firebug as it really helps you to identify what's going on where. I tend to use brightly-coloured borders on all my main elements while I'm designing so I can instantly see what's happening then switch them off when it's looking okay.

    If none of your edits are showing up in IE at all then I think something more fundamental is going on other than browser issues. Are you sure you're editing the right stylesheet or that the path to it is right? check by putting a border on something to see if it shows up.

  4. Craw4x4PH
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thanks Lady_Moocher.

    My edits are showing on Firefox but not on IE. I'll try what you suggested. Thank you :)

  5. t31os
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Saurus sorry you're wrong, and any decent developer still caters for IE users, because being realistic that's a large chunk of the user base on the internet.

    You don't need hacks so to speak, you just need to understand how each browser interprets different elements.

    Quite frankly though, you're statement is incorrect and i don't believe you honestly can speak for all or even a majority of CSS gurus...

    Personally i agree, i don't like writing IE specific code, but i still do it where i need to, because lets face it, if you leave out the support you're basically eliminating a good wealth of visitors, whether you agree with their browser choice or not is totally irrelevant to the fact.

    Imagine if people start coding only for Linux and said, tuff, you choose that poor windows OS, now we're not making anything for it.

    People will use what they have, or what they prefer, you don't have to like the choice, and you can rule them out of your user/visitor base if you want, but it is far from being Standard or Common practice amongst any guru i've come across.

    Also bear in mind Firefox still doesn't adhere to all requirements either, it just meets more then IE does...

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