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  1. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I have MAMP installed on my Mac with a local WordPress install. Everything is working as it should. I can access my design using localhost:8888 in my browser. So far, so good. I have been tinkering around with a theme to modify it locally, just as a tutorial for my personal use. Now that I am finished with this experiment, I wish to start fresh with a clean install of WordPress to try some different things without adding to my already revised theme.

    My question is this: Can I work on multiple WordPress installs locally using MAMP? Is it even necessary to work on multiple installs in order to start fresh to play around with modifying the original WP theme? Instead of working on multiple installs should I just trash all of my WordPress files and install a fresh version to start over?

    Sorry to sound so confused. I'm new to this and I'm just not understanding how a theme designer goes about working on new themes locally with an already designed theme residing on the computer accessed via MAMP.

    Does my question even make sense?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

  2. Jaya
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi cooleydesignlab!

    Can I work on multiple WordPress installs locally using MAMP?

    Yes!

    Is it even necessary to work on multiple installs in order to start fresh to play around with modifying the original WP theme?

    No!

    Instead of working on multiple installs should I just trash all of my WordPress files and install a fresh version to start over?

    If you have messed with WordPress core files then i'd advise you to remove all files and start fresh.. Otherwise, if all edits only affected the theme then you don't have to reinstall it again.

    What modifications are you trying to apply to the theme?

  3. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    If you have messed with WordPress core files then i'd advise you to remove all files and start fresh.. Otherwise, if all edits only affected the theme then you don't have to reinstall it again.

    I haven't messed with the WP core files but I have added sample posts to the blog pages as well as new "about", "contact", "products", information and design elements, if that makes sense. I do not wish to incorporate any of this with my new theme experiments. In other words, I want to see a local install of WordPress using the default theme with no posts, added pages, etc. Currently when I open the local install with a browser and change the theme to the default twentyten I do see the original theme design but all of my sample posts and other pages are still there, now using the original theme.

    I want to start fresh with the original theme without any posts to the blog side and no other additional pages.

    I'm working my way through some tutorials on customizing themes and have now moved to creating a child theme but none of the tutorials tell how to start fresh.

    I don't know if I'm being very clear but basically I want to open my browser to localhost:8888 and see an original install of twentyten without any additional pages or blog posts or comments.

    Thanks for your advice and patience with me. I'm an experienced print designer trying to understand how to develop themes.

  4. Jaya
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    From what i understand, you just want to get rid of the posts/pages/comments you've created. For this , go to the dashboard, from the posts menu in the left you can display all the posts and you can remove them if you'd like. In the left panel always you can see the comments menu and the pages menu and both will allow you to remove all comments/pages you've created.

    Is that what you were referring to?

  5. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi Moyajaya,

    From what i understand, you just want to get rid of the posts/pages/comments you've created. For this , go to the dashboard, from the posts menu in the left you can display all the posts and you can remove them if you'd like. In the left panel always you can see the comments menu and the pages menu and both will allow you to remove all comments/pages you've created.

    Is that what you were referring to?

    I think this is what I'm referring to. I thought about this but I don't wish to permanently delete things like the additional pages because it was part of a tutorial that I may wish to revisit.

    Is this how a professional theme developer/designer works locally? When a person is finished with a particular job or client do they then delete the additional pages within the dashboard so they can start fresh with a parent theme for their new client?

    I'm a bit confused as you can see.

    I'm really interested in how a developer/designer works. What is the process or method to working locally. How do you work with multiple clients at the same time using a local install of WordPress? Do you have to install WordPress multiple times for each client's project?

    Again, I apologize for my ignorance in this matter. I appreciate your tips and advice and patience with a newbie!

  6. Jaya
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    There is a difference between creating posts/pages and designing themes.

    creating or removing posts is a very easy process that you can do from the left panel in your dashboard. Designing a theme on the other hand is complicated since it'll require you to learn CSS and HTML at least to be able to achieve professional designs.

    In case you meant that you created some pages templates as part of a child theme, then you can just duplicate the folder in which you have the child theme's files and you'll have one more child theme you can tinker with.

  7. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I guess what I'm getting at is my current goal is to work with a parent theme such as thematic, hybrid, etc. and learn to create or customize a child theme. Mainly for my own website showcasing my print design work (hopefully to move into website or theme design later).

    I'm just having difficulty understanding the process. For instance, when I'm using InDesign and want to move on to a different job for a different client, I just open a new document and go to work. Now, let's say I'm working locally using MAMP on a custom child theme for thematic or hybrid. When I finalize the child theme and upload it to my server, how do I go about starting on a new child theme. When I type the url localhost:8888 into my browser it will still show the parent/child theme that I just finished working on. Do I just trash that child theme and start from scratch? What if the child theme was built on the back of a skeleton theme? Do I have to re-install that skeleton child theme to start over on a new design?

    When you say that I can duplicate the folder in which the child themes are located, does that mean they are located in a different folder than the parent theme? And if not, and it's possible to duplicate them in order to work with a new child theme, how do I get around the url of localhost:8888 not displaying the child theme I just created?

    Sorry if this sounds confusing. Being a print designer trying to get a handle on this type of work is causing me a bit of distress.

    Thanks for your help!

  8. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    And P.S., I forgot to mention that I do know some HTML and CSS and am always learning more about writing code. So my ultimate goal would be to create the child theme either from scratch or using a bare-bones child theme to base my design on.

  9. Jaya
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    So my ultimate goal would be to create the child theme either from scratch or using a bare-bones child theme to base my design on.

    I would suggest you start by making child themes for the twenty ten theme as many designers rely on that.. plus you'll find so many tutorials on how to work on it.

    Do I just trash that child theme and start from scratch?

    Do I have to re-install that skeleton child theme to start over on a new design?

    You can save the child theme for a later use if you think you'll need it in the future. otherwise you can trash it and start a new project based on a new skeleton child theme..

    When you say that I can duplicate the folder in which the child themes are located, does that mean they are located in a different folder than the parent theme?

    Usually, and from what i know, Child themes should be located in the same category as the parent theme. Check out the Codex about child themes here to see how they are structured for the twenty ten theme for example: http://codex.wordpress.org/Child_Themes

    how do I get around the url of localhost:8888 not displaying the child theme I just created?

    When you create a new child theme, you need to activate it from the left panel under appearance => themes. Then you'll be able to see/work on your child theme from your localhost:8888

    Hope that helps!

  10. cooleydesignlab
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thanks Moyajaya. You've been a big help.

    I'll check out the codex info for child themes. I've been looking around on the internet for information but a lot of the tutorials I have run across seem to leave out some important things, such as my questions about how the whole process works from a workflow and practical process.

    Thanks again for your help and advice!

  11. Jaya
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Anytime. :)

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