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Design Contest (43 posts)

  1. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Howdy, folks!
    Is there any interest in holding a design "contest" for WP templates/skins/layouts? I recall reading about Blogger doing something like that. I thought it might be a fun way to get the community working on their design ideas. The WP members could vote on their favourite designs, and perhaps some or all of the designs could be included with the basic WP install package.
    I think that not only the design of the site is important, but the way the skin/template is documented would be part of the judging, too. I would even volunteer to host the contest on my site, if needed, as well as flesh out the concept and rules, with the help of all those interested. Maybe this would be a good thing to run in the New Year, after the holidays.
    Comments?
    Craig.

  2. Dinthoniel
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Craig,
    are you talking about adaptions of the original template, or also about ways to include WP functions in other designs??
    Generally: good idea!
    Irina.

  3. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    i had like to see contest for modifying the css file to create entirely new layouts. that ways index.php remains as it is... :)

  4. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    well i suppose if the layout looks kool without images, why not use it. Blogs are content oriented! :)
    and about design, it becomes more challenging when u make a custom CSS to generate a whole new layout from the existing code. like the charleen design by 1 of the developers (??) here. but as i say that, i would make this clear that this is IMHO! :)

  5. skeen
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    OK, well, I'll participate whether it be just plain .css or whether it will be a full new design. Its just that css designs often look like a site designed for a 6 year old. I'll have to make some grungy and serious! I do hope images are allowed though.
    ...waiting patiently for the rules and competition end-date.

  6. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Sushubh is right...just using CSS can mean a HUGE difference, even if the content is totally the same. When I think of a web site design, I think of all the elements that go together to create a site are part of the design/layout, whatever you want to call it.
    I would categorise a site that incorporates WP as being different from a site that uses nothing but WP. In that case, I'd suggest two categories for the competition.
    If you want to see the power of what CSS can do, hop over to this site, and try on a whole bunch of the styles. The content of each design is EXACTLY the same, but the layouts and styles applied make every version of that same content unique.... http://www.csszengarden.com/ use the links in the right-hand menu to change the site design. You will be amazed at the stuff people have come up with!
    Craig.

  7. skeen
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    OK, http://www.csszengarden.com/ seems to be based on graphics design as well as CSS... so Im still a little confused about what we can and cant do.
    Draw out some rules and guidelines.

  8. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    exactly my point. and it becomes easier for laymen like me to adapt to the new funky design :D

  9. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'd like to mention that the template for the css zen garden got a lot more non-semantical markup (read: tons of divs) than the default wordpress template to hook your css to.
    Using just the default template i'd say you are rather limited in your design possibilities, perhaps it would be a good idea to create a new template with some extended design-friendly markup for the competition.

  10. skeen
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Christoph, good idea!

  11. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'm working on some specifics, and I'll post them soon...
    Craig.

  12. denyerec
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    http://www.denyerec.co.uk/blog/
    No graphics ;)
    (But some might argue, no class either!)

  13. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    denyerec: ur site look weird in Opera. 2 scrollbars plus scrolling does nto work.

  14. skeen
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    OK... well I better get reading on CSS then. I only have a basic knowledge of it, but its enough to do exactly what I want it to do. Does code matter? Does it have to be as efficient as CSS allows and valid CSS etc?... or is this all about the design? Also, I think there should be a limit to how many images can be used.

  15. Michael Heilemann
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    IMO it _has_ to be valid CSS. Minimize the use of hacks and try to be as efficient as you can get away with :)

  16. notthatugly
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    any limit as to the numbers of entries per person?

  17. Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Enter as many times as you like.

  18. codergurl
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    what do we win? :P

  19. Michael Heilemann
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Not that I want to get into an argument, but Opera=bloated :)

  20. Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Yes let's not go there. What do you win? Right now just recognition and a warm fuzzy feeling but I'll try to get some prizes going. If I can't get anything I'll just chip in some of my own cash and buy something off the winner's wish list.

  21. arthuc01
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Entry Number one from the scotsman...
    http://www.lineages.co.uk/chris/test/index.htm
    Thanks to Craig (NuclearMoose) for helping me with a CSS problem - it now works as expected in IE5, 5.5. 6 Firebird 0.7 Netscape 7.1 on WinXP (so I can't take all the credit).
    Standard template from WP 0.72 GOLD used. - only CSS used as requested
    If anyone finds any problems please drop me a line (the internal links won't work as I saved the default page as produced by index.php as an html file so I could host it outwith my document root - basic posting text has been changed for some lorum ipsum to help me see what was happening a bit clearer)
    McChris

  22. Liquibyte
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    At least the folks at Opera listen to their users. When was the last time you were able to get in touch with Microsoft to have a feature included in IE?

  23. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    hmm. another opera forum junkie here. won't argue more. people who use opera know what an incredible piece of software they have and how nice people their are at the opera forum :P.
    WP is another such cool forum and another incredible piece of software.
    Coming back to the topic. Would not it be better if the contestants post the link to the CSS file so that not-so-geek users like me could test it in the real world for its practicality. :)

  24. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'd enter, but most of the tricks I've done required markup changes via the index file or the templatefunctions file.. Yeah, sometimes you can overdo the use of spans and divs, but the point of extensive markup is that everything is bracketed in such a way that the CSS can be used to really do just about anything needed. Some of my latest updates on http://www.chait.net were only possible once I added a bunch of markup to index... even if you use <h2> instead of <div class=title>, you are adding useful markup that the default file is lacking.
    =d

  25. davidchait
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    aaargh. hate when I forget I'm not logged in!
    =d

  26. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    arthuc01,
    Are you making your CSS file for your design available? If you are, I would be very interested in using it. My knowledge of CSS is very elementary, so at this point, I mostly modify other designs that are predone.

  27. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    http://www.lineages.co.uk/chris/test/wp-layout.css here is the link to css.
    but without the images the page is not visually appealing...

  28. artios
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Thanks. I guess I should have known that the wp-layout.css would be the default used. I can supply my own images, but I am still learning on the formatting part.

  29. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    oh, for the css part you just need to check the source code.
    alt-F3 in Opera, Alt V C in IE, Ctrl U in Mozilla.

  30. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Hi folks, my weblog @ blog.lennartgroetzbach.de is not finished yet, but what is? I changed some minor things in the index.php like the email link, the permanent link and the comment link. I added a couple of hacks and made some changes myself (the authors box and the last-x-comments box). I will change the css code for the comment display for a single entry, but beside that the css file is kind of complete.
    Take a look if you like...

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