• Did you ever fight your way through getting your CSS to work and then have someone e-mail you and say, “I can’t see the text of your blog” when using Opera?
    I thought that I had finished with the CSS, but got that e-mail today. The CSS for my blog (www.hayz.ws/blog) works fine in Mozilla, Firefox, Netscape, and IE. However, when you open it up in Opera, there is a big gap between the title of the first entry and the remainder of the text. The gap is the same size as the text in the right hand column.
    Ideas on how to correct this without wrecking the layout in IE, Mozilla, Netscape, and Firefox?

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  • hayzhold,
    If you can wait for a bit, I’m sure Sushubh or another resident Opera expert will set you on the right path.

    Nuke those would be the Opera Singers we are waiting for ? 🙂

    Well… I’m neither an Opera singer nor Sushubh. I did, hovever, install Opera on Linux (they even have a Debian package available), and have set up Serendipity’s CSS Debugging Rules:
    — If a site looks good in Firefox, Opera and Konqueror, but bad in IE, it’s most likely IE’s fault. (That’s the most common case.)
    — If a site looks good in FF and Konq but bad in O it might just be an Opera quirk, or it might be a particularly strict interpretation of CSS by Opera (sometimes these browsers know more about CSS than I do).
    — If a site looks good in FF and O but bad in Konq, I most likely use some CSS Konq doesn’t understand very well. (These cases are ususally minor — a pixel here, a margin there.)
    — BUT: If a site looks good in FF but bad in Konq and Opera, I messed up very badly.
    @hayzhold: Your site falls into category 4. Next step, send it through the validator. I did this. Ouch. A lot of xhtml validation errors. Some are harmless, but not all. You are, for example, using selectors like these: <li id="Glenn Reynolds says">. There shouldn’t be any whitespace in an id or a class. I have no idea how a browser that is less forgiving than FF (and yes, FF is not only very pleasant to use, but also extremely forgiving of bad code) tries to make sense of these.
    Bottom line: you can’t be helped until your xhtml and css are at least close to valid. Really.

    So, Sushubh has become the defacto face of Opera Users on WP Forums? 🙂

    Why, yes, of course! Experts are a rare species 🙂 .

    Well sushubh and Literary Moose. 🙂

    One being more helpful and available than the other. Not that either had any obligation to the WP community, of course.

    Thread Starter hayzhold

    (@hayzhold)

    Actually, I just checked it in Konqueror and it looks worse.
    So the breakdown is Firefox, Netscape, Mozilla, and IE it is fine.
    Opera and Konqueror the posts are kicked down below all the menus – although in Opera, the first entry title is at the top (where it should be), the remainder of the first and othe posts are all kicked down below the menu text.
    I am pretty sure that this has to do with a “display:inline;” or “display:block” thing, but CSS is not my stongest suit.

    Thread Starter hayzhold

    (@hayzhold)

    Oops! just read through serendipity’s post – much work to do.
    Thanks for the note.

    There also big gaps in this forum between entires in IE 5.0 on W2k !

    IE5.0 has some issues, yes – thought about updating ?

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