Hi,
I’ve been reading a lot of the post and it seems CSS layout (and browser quirks) cause quite a few problems for people trying to “customize� their sites. Textpattern has integrated CSS into its administration section, but it still requires you to know CSS. My thought is have an option in the WP admin section called “style� and have the WP user choose from 4 basic layouts: 3-column, 2-column right, 2-column left, 1-column with a single click. Then you choose your color scheme from another listing. 2 clicks and WP creates the CSS for you. You always could add more options down the road, like link styling, balloon popup definitions, etc…
I know absolutely nothing about what web programming and I’m sure it can’t be done (I can’t be the first to think about this), but it sure would be nice. Less CSS and more users, maybe even my mom.
Thanks for the great product.
CSS and all the problems it seems to cause. (13 posts)
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Anonymous
Posted 8 years ago # -
chrisjdavis
Posted 8 years ago #I am sure this has been covered, but like so many other features that "could" be added to the package it remains to be seen if the Dev's want to go that way with this system.
I personally would say no, but that is just me. There is already a project that has produced many great styles for WP, and there is a style switcher that has been written that I could see being added as a feature.
Any farther than that and I would start to feel like eye candy was winning out over function.
But again that is just me. -
on the surface, it *seems* like a nice idea, but then you run into the danger of the BlogSpot syndrome, where all WP sites start looking liek one another. I call it the "Ah, template #11" effect. Additionaly, most of us has done some kind of customizing to index.php that wouldn't make it feasable.
I was trying to get the link to the style sheets submitted for the competition, but it doesn't seem to want to work any more.
TG -
Posted 8 years ago #My server just went down - apparently a data center problem. It'll be back up soon.
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That was me, it sure is annoying when you enter your username and password in the boxes but it doesn't log you in.
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OperaManiac
Posted 8 years ago #a developer complaining :D
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Mark (podz)
Posted 8 years ago #My 2p...
It would not be a good idea. Why ?
Because maybe the same people who run into problems now would run into problems then.
There is a very good explanation of the template here - http://blog.nuclearmoose.ca/wp-docs/wp-layout-explained.htm
and simple searching on this forum can reveal most answers to questions.
Also, those people wanting to be more creative may not like any increased integration with the main WP 'engine'.
Some apparent CSS problems that are mentioned here are also caused more by the use of conflicting styles that people try to use when designing their page. Integration would not solve that. Good page design, the patience to work through code making single alterations at a time, and forethought sort that issue.
I agree too with TG about styling and 'sameness'. -
Posted 8 years ago #bump
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WillM
Posted 8 years ago #It's perfectly possible for people to download a basic 3-col layout from elsewhere and transplant the WordPress code from index.php into that. If people are too unimaginative or too lazy to customize their own blog layouts that's nobody else's fault but their's.
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Posted 8 years ago #I can't allow the original posters proposition that css causes *a lot of problems*
to go unchallenged. Css is not an obstacle course designed to make the life of the end user harder. It is also only fair to point out that the developers of WP are right at the front of the very best of international *best practice* standards for software in this respect. It may also be worth mentioning in passing that the WP default style was done by David O'Shea.The bottom line is that using css does require a degree of application and a little bit of hard work. What certainly would cause *a lot of problems* is marking up WP in tables with every cell formatted as per the old days. And adding a few gif spacers. -
Posted 8 years ago #Original Poster
I agree that...
"The bottom line is that using css does require
a degree of application and a little bit of hard
work."
Question, with a blog, shouldn't content be
king? My initial thought wasn't to take away CSS
or web standards, but to integrate it more into
the system. Focusing on usability...
"WordPress is a state-of-the-art semantic
personal publishing platform with a focus on
aesthetics, web standards, and usability."
I'm only looking out for the newbie that wants
to get started fast with content and a general
style/color scheme.
Thanks again for a great product
P.S. WillM...OUCH! Sorry to ruffle your
feathe -
"I'm only looking out for the newbie that wants to get started fast with content and a general style/color scheme."
I'm not sure I understand the issue.
Once you install WordPress, you can go to http://www.alexking.org/index.php?content=software/wordpress/styles.php and download any of a score of different and elegant styles that work instantly, no tweaking required.
If mom can install WordPress in the first place, she should have no trouble copying style.css from somewhere. -
Posted 8 years ago #Sorry anon 1 but this is a non sequiter. How can css be a *problem* for people trying to customize their sites when the very tool provided for that job is css? If you want to "get started" you can stick with the mighty fine interface supplied. If you don't like it you can write your own. As indeed you can for any other part of the software that takes your fancy. Welcome to open source. At the risk of reopening an old wound if you need a template please get a *good* one. Fancy colors does not equal *technically sound* as many people who have tried to install third party templates without understanding them have found.
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