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[resolved] Code is poetry in updates also... (11 posts)

  1. topcat2456
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I find that when I expand to full page I no longer retain the kitchen sink so I have to make simple changes and then reurn to the small window, scroll to my changes and only then can I use the facilities of the kitchen sink.

    Either I have missed something or the coding is not the elegant poetry we have come to expect.

    Is there someone that can help me here??

  2. The kitchen sink is not available when you're using the Full Screen editor (aka Distraction Free Writing).

    However did you know there were key commands?

    Open up full screen and click the help button.

    Writing at Full Speed
    Rather than reaching for your mouse to click on the toolbar, use these access keys. Windows and Linux use Ctrl + letter. Macintosh uses Command + letter.
    
    Letter	Action	Letter	Action
    c	Copy	v	Paste
    a	Select all	x	Cut
    z	Undo	y	Redo
    The following shortcuts use different access keys: Alt + Shift + letter.
    
    Letter	Action	Letter	Action
    b	Bold	i	Italic
    n	Check Spelling	l	Align Left
    j	Justify Text	c	Align Center
    d	Strikethrough	r	Align Right
    u	• List	a	Insert link
    o	1. List	s	Remove link
    q	Quote	m	Insert Image
    g	Full Screen	t	Insert More Tag
    p	Insert Page Break tag	h	Help
    e	Switch to HTML mode
    Editor width in Distraction-free writing mode:
    Ctrl +	Wider	Ctrl -	Narrower
    Ctrl 0	Default width
  3. topcat2456
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thanks for the list - I am grateful.
    What a shame that 'improvements' remove useful tools from previous versions and try to tell the user that this is a feature (distraction free writing) when the biggest distraction is NOT having the tools any more...
    It beggars belief and questions the mindset of the programmer concerned and questions the objects of the team that is trying to produce a user friendly interface to compete with the opposition. I won't be updating WordPress to this version on the other sites that I maintain.

  4. That would be a bad idea, not updating. WordPress doesn't provide any security fixes to older versions, so you would introduce a great deal of risk to yourself.

    If you're really interested in making WP better, consider joining the UI team - http://make.wordpress.org/ui/ and see how these decisions get made.

  5. topcat2456
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Interesting reaction but not an explanation of WHY... Is there a warning in there that we should all be made aware of?? Maybe there were just bugs that were put in the too-hard basket? In terms of user features the latest version is still a step backwards.

    I look forward to the next upgrade and am happy to avoid the current version - unless of course there is a major security flaw that got through with the previous version and was not identified by extensive beta testing.

    I certainly am past joining development teams but I can at least offer the occasional feedback from a users perspective. The problem with feedback is that some folk can see it as an attack on their personal integrity and react with self-righteous indignation (not you I hasten to add). The tendency has always been for techies to lose touch with the wants and needs of their user base and have the expectation that everyone shares the same levels of knowledge and logical views as themselves - thus the focus veers away from the end-user who should be the focal point of any development.

    But enough of this philosophical rambling. My years as an IT lecturer are behind me and I must learn to give way to the current developers so that they can make their own mistakes. :-)

    Thanks very much for your response - I hope my feedback was helpful.

  6. Why what?

    I can't give you the answer you want for why there isn't the toolbox in dissection free writing (I don't know for sure, though I have my guess). Since this is the first widespread release on DFW, you can expect things to change over time.

    From my experience with WP, they do keep the user POV in account with these changes. That doesn't mean everyone will agree with them, that's just impossible.

  7. topcat2456
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    All I ever set out to do was point out that the new version of WordPress has deleted features/tools of the previous versions that were useful to mere mortals.

    It is frustrating to see that this is considered to be progress.

    And yes, you can't please everyone - and you no doubt are of the opinion that your target market is the technical web designers and not Joe Average trying to maintain his website to a reasonably professional level.

    Your call, not ours.

  8. Not my call. I don't work for WP, I'm a volunteer forum mod, and user. :)

    DFW didn't have the kitchen sink before, so for THAT it's not a case of removal, but non-addition. Full screen, which was buggy, allowed kitchen sink but had other issues. I recall reading that putting it in the DFW editor was on the table, though I don't know when. Again, DFW is New. Give it time, and suggestions and directions, before chucking the baby out with the bathwater. :)

  9. Rev. Voodoo
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 2 years ago #

    For the DFW issue... I've seen a pretty even split on people who want features such as kitchen sink added, and people who really enjoy the implementation as it stands.

    I personally have no opinion, I never use it. But I can see the dilemma of the devs...

    If there is a half and half split of opinions, which is the 'right' way to take it?

  10. topcat2456
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    There is an art to coding and aspiring to create the perfect program. It just does not happen because as soon as it is released a bug or a shortcoming is discovered so we review and update - every time getting closer to our target. The big decision is to identify the target. Is it our own personal sense of satisfaction of meeting the ideals that we have set down for ourselves, or have we selected a target market of a particular user group. We have to ask ourselves if we are coding for our own ego or somebody else's ideal of a really useful helpful program? If latter, then we have to ascertain which group of users we want to provide with our masterpiece. This decision can be difficult due to the co$tings involved but we really have to be able to identify our target market. My theory is that WordPress is meant to be aimed at non-techie individuals and even bloggers, but also kept attractive to web page developers who want to put out reasonable quality web pages without any time delays...
    Removing tools and improving the program like this could be compared to replacing the soles of a pair of DM's with hobnailed leather - probably just as good but who really wants them when there are other boots to buy???

  11. topcat2456 - Read http://wordpress.org/about/philosophy/ to understand more about WP's philosophy regarding development. I suspect if you understood more where WP is coming from, much will become clear to you.

    In so far as this post goes for a SUPPORT question, the answer has been provided. Kitchen sink isn't (currently) available in DFW.

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