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clumsy and cumbersome (4 posts)

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  1. eagerbob
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Types lets you easily create custom post types, taxonomies and fields from within the admin screen. So that's very cool. Unfortunately it is not a very polished tool to work with.

    For instance, you cannot (re)order your custom field groups. Meaning that if you add a few CFG's to your page, you will have to start with the last and end with the first. That is if you do not want to make the backend of your client's website more user unfriendly than it already is.

    What is lacking in Types is an easy way to make repeating field groups. While you can repeat fields, you cannot repeat field groups. Other plugins do give you repeater fields.

    What is also lacking is clear instruction on how to display your custom fields or custom post types on your page. This should't be too difficult for a seasoned developer but the people behind Types are not going to be of much help in this area. They say that you will "probably" need to edit your index.php file and that, since "different themes do it differently" they can't really say what works best.

    A simple example and some info on how Types writes its fields to the database (it prepends your custom fields with wpfc-) would have been helpful.

    What Types really tries do is letting you buy Views. Plus some other plugins you'll most likely do not need. Even "Ninja Developers" should buy Views, since you "wouldn't want to do the same stuff over and over again." In reality, when you use Types (and Views) you will be doing the same stuff over and over again. Unlike other similar plugins that let you duplicate field groups and then edit them, with types (and Views) you will find yourself redoing the same stuff.

    The whole process of creating, organising, connecting and displaying CPT's, custom boxes and taxonomies with Types (and Views) is cumbersome, slow and not very intuitive. The user guides on the website are confusing. (as said by others)

    The support is good though: There is free community support were questions are answered by staff members. If you buy the $149 Toolset you get "paid" support which is supposed to be better.

    What is also positive is the 30 day money back guarantee. After registering with their site I was able to download the Toolset with Types, Views, Access and CRED for free. (must have been a glitch). But would I have paid money for the Views plugin plus the rest I would have certainly asked for a refund since I am not going to use it.

    Last but not least: Types clutters your dashboard with ugly colored icons (where the rest is monochrome and more in line with the WP design) and huge "information boxes" that advertise their other products. In order to get rid of this annoying messages you'll need to install their "installer plugin". Why not put this in screen options?

  2. BigDogSF
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I've been working with Types and Views for over a year now, developing a website that has over 600 views, 120 plus parent taxonomies, 350 plus child taxonomies spread over 4 custom post types.

    Types definitely has had it's share of growing pains, but your explanations of usage are just not right. First, with the introduction of a "duplicates posts" plugin, it is really easy to duplicate the views and templates, so this issue is easily addressed.

    Second, I don't know where you are getting this dashboard cluttered with ugly colored icons...that is just downright bullshit.

    I do agree that the documentation leaves a lot of stuff hanging, but I also use the more established gravity forms, and other plugins...and find a lack of easy to navigate documentation to be a common issue in the world of wordpress themes and plugins. That said, the staff at types and views work hard to resolve support questions and issues.

    It's obvious that you have some sort of agenda with this post...so I would suggest to anyone reading your post to take it with a grain of salt...and not give much value, because overall your post is worthless.

  3. eagerbob
    Member
    Posted 11 months ago #

    First, with the introduction of a "duplicates posts" plugin, it is really easy to duplicate the views and templates, so this issue is easily addressed.

    Yeah, I got that tip too, but it is still a workaround.
    You shouldn't be needing another plugin to make a plugin do what I expect to be standard functionality.

    I don't know where you are getting this dashboard cluttered with ugly colored icons...that is just downright bullshit.

    If I look at your website bluecollectorsbook I can easily see that your sense of aesthetics is different from mine. So we cant't argue over whether those icons are ugly or not, that is highly personal. But what was bothering me is that they stand out like a sore thumb between the rest of the icons. Drawing attention to themselves when they should better not be. And yes, I am a bit sensitive to this. For the same reason I do not use the "Yoast" SEO plugin, which does the same thing. But at least that plugin is free.

    Then there's the huge colored "information boxes" that promote other products. They shouldn't be there, this is a paid toolset, cramming the admin screens of paying customers with advertising is just wrong.

    and find a lack of easy to navigate documentation to be a common issue in the world of wordpress themes and plugins.

    True, but that still doesn't make it more easy to work with does it?
    And, as I said, "confusing documentation" were not my words. I was merely citing other peoples opinions, that I came across trying to find more information.

    It's obvious that you have some sort of agenda with this post...

    not really. I was a bit frustated after wasting too much time with this plugin set before I found out that there are better, cheaper, easier and more elegant solutions available. I thought it would be helpful to others to write a comprehensive review, saving others from the same frustation.

  4. eagerbob
    Member
    Posted 9 months ago #

    @prestonbow, to answer your question:
    I use Advanced Custom Fields with the repeater field and option field add-on. It works smoothly and support is good.See: http://www.advancedcustomfields.com/

    If I wasn't already using Advanced Custom Fields I would have a look at Easy Content Types by Pippins, see: http://pippinsplugins.com/easy-content-types/

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