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[resolved] Cloud Flare Feedback? (25 posts)

  1. Dave
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Has anyone used the cloudflare option on W3TC?

    And if so, what's your feedback on the service?

  2. SEO Marketing Media Elite
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Dave,

    I also was curious so I tried it. Here are the highs and lows.

    Highs
    1. Definitely faster

    Lows
    1. You will have to change your servers to theirs.
    2. With the free account you cant change any of your files.
    3. The paid account is pricey at over 20 dollars a month.

  3. EddieG
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Dave,

    It is noticeably faster, yes, but sometimes it seems to have "gone to sleep" and needs a sec to wake up. Note that it only caches certain of your records, not all of them.

    Changing your DNS server takes about 20 seconds. Since installing CloudFlare I have changed many of my files many times without issue.

    The Google Apache module mod_pagespeed may pick up the fine-tuning process where CloudFlare leaves off, and can be used in conjunction with CloudFlare. I aim to try it but have not done so yet.

  4. SEO Marketing Media Elite
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Let me rephrase the changing of files.
    Only through WordPress you can change your files.
    If there is something you had to upload directly to a folder, not through WordPress you won't be able to unless you have a paid account.

  5. Dave
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Many thank for the feedback on Cloud flare.

    I'll take a look at the free version based on what you've said here. And take it from there.

    Always a bit wary when someone else wants to take over your DNS!

  6. A Man Cooks
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yeah, I thought that too. But what I giveth, I can taketh away. :-)

  7. wavesoftech
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm currently using MaxCDN. Can cloud flare be used in conjunction/simultaneously with another CDN?

  8. A Man Cooks
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Although I haven't tried it I suspect the answer is yes, since W3TC has an option to enable MaxCDN in addition to CloudFlare, although that doesn't prove anything.

    I've had passing contact with CloudFlare Support, but did not find them to be eager beavers. In fact I invited them to this discussion earlier today.

  9. Pixel Light Media
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I've been using the free CloudFlare service for a few months now, it did speed things up as far as page load time and it definitely helped with server requests.

    Also, I did activate the CloudFlare feature in W3 Total Cache as well. I've had decent success with it after a bit of tinkering and can say that I have made a marked improvement on page load time for this site here: kimoverholt.com.

    I discovered the biggest factor in slowing the page load is the affiliate ads as well as any of the scripts that need to load.

    There's still more I can do but I'm learning as I go with respect to the pluggins capabilities.

    Check out this video: Use W3 Total Cache to Speed Up Your WordPress Site

    Hope it helps!

  10. A Man Cooks
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    CloudFlare decreased my ping time by a factor of 7, and users said my pages now load "instantaneously." However, Google Page Speed only went from 89/100 to 90/100. And it is the Google ring that we must kiss. Argh...

    Next time I feel inspired I will install mod_pagespeed on my server.

    CloudFlare wrote me this AM re mod_pagespeed, "No direct experience with this. But I believe we may look at adding this as an option in CloudFlare settings at some point."

    "The pioneer is the one with the arrows in his back."

  11. goddess_dix
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I've had good luck with CloudFlare--good increase in page speed and especially, MUCH less spam.

  12. damoncloudflare
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    "If there is something you had to upload directly to a folder, not through WordPress you won't be able to unless you have a paid account. "
    Not sure where this is coming from. Having a Pro account doesn't have anything to do with folders or uploading anything at all (nor does a free account). Are you talking about doing something via ftp?
    You should either FTP to your server's IP (ftp://yourserverip/)
    address or to:

    direct.yourdomain.com

    "You will have to change your servers to theirs."
    You're only changing your domain nameservers (DNS). You still keep your hosting provider, which means your site server IP address doesn't change at all.

    "I've had passing contact with CloudFlare Support, but did not find them to be eager beavers. In fact I invited them to this discussion earlier today."

    Sorry if it takes me a bit to get out to here from a request. We're experiencing decent contact volumes right now, and I'm in the process of helping train new folks to tackle that load.

    "I'm currently using MaxCDN. Can cloud flare be used in conjunction/simultaneously with another CDN? "

    There is no conflict with using other CDN services. You would want to make sure that any CNAMEs you have for your CDN are present in your CloudFlare DNS settings (settings->DNS settings).

    "Always a bit wary when someone else wants to take over your DNS! "
    This isn't a requirement if you activate via a hosting partner's cpanel integration. We will also have CNAME pointing available in about 4-5 weeks or so (target is late July).

    "Note that it only caches certain of your records, not all of them."
    CloudFlare only caches static content by extension type.

    Some other helpful CloudFlare tips.

    I can generally free some time up to respond to posts & I just want to advise it will take a little time right now for me to get back to one.

  13. VSCC
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    "If there is something you had to upload directly to a folder, not through WordPress you won't be able to unless you have a paid account. "
    Not sure where this is coming from. Having a Pro account doesn't have anything to do with folders or uploading anything at all (nor does a free account). Are you talking about doing something via ftp?
    You should either FTP to your server's IP (ftp://yourserverip/)
    address or to:
    
    direct.yourdomain.com

    Exactly, Cloudflare has no effect on your original hosting servers IP address just get the IP address of the hosting server before you switch over, you can easily find it by doing a A record DNS lookup on your existing domain, you can use a simple online tool like http://www.mxlookups.com or similar.

    Cloudflare doesn't give direct access to your site but rather proxies this in a manor. So once your name server records have changed your original domain will no longer point at the hosts IP but to one of cloudflare's.

    During the initial setup a DNS record of direct.yourdomain.com is created. this by default is the only name server record pointing directly to the originals hosts ip. So unless you changed it on setup anyone can bypass the cloudflare service using http://direct.cloudflare.com. So I always remove it, but you could also use this for ftp connection if you still have it.

    A bigger concern to me is any potential effect this may have on Google ads? as the originating ips of visitors become those of cloudflare's, does this have a detrimental effect?

    I'm in the process of searching for a answer now. I also have a phpbb site that I use cloudflare on and I read on there support pages a recommended change to the session.php file to allow original IP pass through. I wondering if wordpress has any issue at all, found this thread while searching thought I would reply, so for posting on 3 week old thread.

  14. damoncloudflare
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    "A bigger concern to me is any potential effect this may have on Google ads?"

    No conflict because this is between your visitor and your site (javascript). The only thing that might impact javascript are the beta features (Rocket Loader, Auto Minify) & you should turn these off if you have them turned on & have a problem.

    "I wondering if wordpress has any issue at all, found this thread while searching thought I would reply, so for posting on 3 week old thread. "

    You should install the CloudFlare WordPress plugin (if using WordPress). You can also install mod_cloudflare on your server as another option.

  15. VSCC
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    damoncloudflare

    Perfect, thanks for the info.

  16. damoncloudflare
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi,

    Glad to help!

  17. EddieG
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    When you have a resource-hungry app, and a shared server, it is easy to drive your app beyond its means. I did just this this past week.

    When you have a cache plugin, and a minifier plugin, and then a cache proxy after that, dev gets tough. Latency builds.

    You can turn all this stuff off before dev. Or, you can do dev on localhost.

    IMHO, it is best to give CloudFlare a clean copy to work with, then stand back while it does its thing. If you can do that the results will be good.

    Ed
    ..........

  18. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Anyone having issues with cloudflare in W3TC?

  19. ryansigg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm currently using the W3 Total Cache Plugin w/ Cloudflare. I also have a a host (Media Temple) which is hosting partner with Cloudflare. Which option is best for using Cloudflare with my WordPress site, via the W3 Total Cache plugin or via my host's cPanel?
    Thanks!

  20. damoncloudflare
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi,

    I would just activate via MediaTemple. While CloudFlare is indeed an option in W3TC, it does require having a domain using CloudFlare in some way (signing up directly, or activating via a Hosting Partner).

    If you need help with the CloudFlare W3TC settings, here you go: http://support.cloudflare.com/kb/troubleshooting/what-fields-do-i-need-to-enter-in-w3tc-w3-total-cache-settings

  21. ryansigg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    OK, thanks for the quick reply!
    I'll activate it through MT.

  22. damoncloudflare
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Glad to help. Some other quick tips to help minimize confusion when coming aboard through a hosting partner: http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-tips-top-tips-when-activating-thro

  23. mauryparra
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi, since the update of W3TC the other day I have a problem with Google Adsense. The google adsense section just display a blue rectangule. I tried with the development mode on cloudflare settings and disabling minification on W3TC. And still not showing ads. Everything was fine before the update of W3TC.

  24. modemjunkie
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I am pretty clear, I think, on settings for CloudFlare, but are there any special recommendations for specific W3TC settings to use with CloudFlare? or to exclude?

    I don't have a lot of hits but I do have large posts with images.

    My blog is at
    http://lgrossman.com/trudel/

    As you'll note the blog does not have a separate domain but is on my old site. It appears that CloudFlare is caching all of the domain http://lgrossman.com . It may be my imagination but some huge old pages there seem to be flying now. A side benefit of using CloudFlare which I seem to have installed almost accidentally through W3TC.

    OOps two more question: I have two different back up systems. Myrepono, which is weekly and PressBackup which uses AWS as for storage. I use that immediately after a new post. Can I use my Amazon AWS as a CDM account for W3TC as well.

    Len

  25. modemjunkie
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    And should I have put caching into development mode before attempting a backup.

    Ps Thanks Damon for getting back to me via Twitter. I didn't see you had posted here until after I posted.

    Len

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