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1. amandafrench
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   When I "network activate" plugins, the child site administrators (who are regular admins, not super admins) can't see those plugins even though I've enabled their plugin menus. All they can see is the count of how many plugins are network-activated.

   See screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amandafrench/4977130955/ That's a child site, and I'm logged in as an admin (but not a super admin). The Akismet plugin is the only one activated on the network. The admin has the (limited) config menu for Akismet, but the plugin isn't listed either in the "All" or in "Network Activated" lists of plugins. Same has been true for lots of other plugins I've tried, so it's not an Akismet issue.

   Seems like for there to be a meaningful distinction between "must-use" plugins in the mu-plugins folder and "Network Activated" plugins, the child site admins should be able to see and deactivate the Network Activated plugins if they want to.

   (See also the thread at http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugins-activate-vs-network-activate )

2. amandafrench
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Not that I want them to be able to turn off Akismet. That's just for testing purposes. :) I haven't been able to get *any* network-activated plugins to show up in administrators' plugins list.

3. Ipstenu
   Half-Elf Support Rogue & Mod
   Posted 1 year ago #

   This feature is by design, apparently.

   It's just on for 'em. Which really makes the difference that a Super Admin can deactivate a network-activated plugin on a per site basis, but no one can turn off mu-plugins (without removing them entirely).

4. amandafrench
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Fair enough. Though I for one don't have time to do things on a per-site basis, so I wind up never using Network Activate. I've been using a multisite plugin called "Exclude plugin" instead to hide some plugins from child site admins, and the rest of the plugins (except the ones that are must-use) I just leave inactive by default.

5. Andrea_r
   team pirate
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Just a note on Akismet: it has *specific* instructions for use in a network (you can use one key for all sites) but you also have to pay for commercial use.

6. amandafrench
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Yep, I mention that on the other thread.

7. Andrea_r
   team pirate
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Actually, when a plugin is network activated, it can only be DE activated from the site you originally network-activated it on. This is by design.

   Whether or not it shows in the plugins list should have no bearing on if it adds the menus or not.

   If you're having multisite issues specifically with the Akismet plugin, best to ask them directly.

8. amandafrench
   Member
   Posted 1 year ago #

   Nope, I'm not having any multisite issues specifically with the Akismet plugin. I understand. It's a feature, not a bug, even though it bugs me. As I say, I've figured out a reasonable workaround.

9. Laurel L. Russwurm
   Member
   Posted 11 months ago #

   @Ipstenu Which really makes the difference that a Super Admin can deactivate a network-activated plugin on a per site basis, but no one can turn off mu-plugins (without removing them entirely).

   How? The only choice open to me is "network activate" ... I can find no mere "activate."

   I am the only user, and as a super admin my ONLY choice is to network activate or deactivate any plug-in. When I network activate a plugin, it merges with all the other controls.

   I don't seem to have ANY way to activate a plugin for just one site.

   I tried making myself a simple administrator account, reasoning I might be able to limit an activation to an individual blog if me as an adsministrator only has the keys to the one blog. The problem is that me as a lowly administrator doesn't have permission to shop for, let along install plugins.

   As a self publishing author, I'm serializing my 1st novel in its own novel serialization blog - so it is important for it to run in reverse order, accomplished via plugin. The problem is that the sister blog - the book publisher blog - is also running "backwards." But I want it to appear as a normal blog, with the opening page being the most recent.

   Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

10. Ipstenu
    Half-Elf Support Rogue & Mod
    Posted 11 months ago #

    Laurel L. Russwurm - Note that this thread is 5 months old and SOME of the information is out of date.

    All plugins in /wp-admin/network/plugins.php show Network Activate ONLY. This is true today.

    If you ONLY want to active a plugin PER site, you go to wp-admin/plugins.php and turn 'em on there.

    Per site actions are done on each site. domain.com/sitename/wp-admin

    Network Wide actions are done in the network admin section: domain.com/wp-admin/network

11. Laurel L. Russwurm
    Member
    Posted 11 months ago #

    Fair enough; I understood it was usually best to ask questions in existing threads if possible, rather than starting new.

    I am a noob here. When I go to wp-admin/plugins.php there *are* no plug ins:

    You do not appear to have any plugins available at this time.

    The only way to introduce plug ins is via network activate.

12. Andrea_r
    team pirate
    Posted 11 months ago #

    No, you install the plugins in the network menus.

    Do not network activate them.

    Go to the SUB site's plugins menu.

    Then they will show up on the menus of the sub sites, where you can activate them for that site only.

13. Laurel L. Russwurm
    Member
    Posted 11 months ago #

    Thank you Andrea_r !!

    :D

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