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[resolved] bugs WP3.2+podPress8.8.10.8 (35 posts)

  1. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I just have updated my WP to 3.2 and podPress to 8.8.10.8 and some bugs appear.
    1) I usually use category casting. If I change the category casting options the xml of this category doesn't change. I can even delete the category but the xml remains. I need to re-save any post for the category for changing takes effect.
    2) Options iTunes:Summary, iTunes:Subtitle, Blog/Podcast title and Description (Tagline) seem like unwork. I usually use custom values and Use Category Name and Use Category Description but it seems like Use Global and Append Category Name usage.
    To repair these bugs I have had to return to podPress 8.8.10.7 but only second problem was resolved.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/podpress/

  2. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    That the XML of the feed does not update may have something to do with your current Feed Reader software. Some of these programs are caching the feed for a while, so that you need to manually clear the cache memory to see changes in the feed without waiting.
    Or maybe it is another WP plugin which caches the feed. I don't know. Do you use such a plugin or any other plugin which is intended to optimise the feeds of your blog?
    It does not seem to be a general problem of podPress 8.8.10.8 and WP 3.2 which you describe under point 1). When I change something in the content of a post of such a category or in the category casting settings e.g. the itunes:summary, I can see the changes in the XML without a problem. Usually I watch the source code of a feed with Firefox and this a software which caches RSS feeds by default. I need to clear the cache every time.

    Options iTunes:Summary, iTunes:Subtitle, Blog/Podcast title and Description (Tagline) seem like unwork

    In which way do they not work?

    I usually use custom values and Use Category Name and Use Category Description but it seems like Use Global and Append Category Name usage.

    I have re-arranged the options for the feed title of the categtory feed in 8.8.10.8 (see the Changelog). The upgrade routines should have get the old setting and have transferred it to the new one.
    the new option are now:

    • Use the Site Title and append the name of the category
    • Use the Site Title
    • Use the name of the category

    But I have not only changed the names of the options. I have repaired this function a little bit. There was no real difference between the settings "Use Global" and "Append" in 8.8.10.7.

    Please, tell me what your desired feed title is and which option you have tried to use.
    Further install 8.8.10.8 again and try to find out whether Javascript errors occur while you are changing/saving the category settings.
    You may also look out for any php error log file on your blog. Does this file contain errors related to a podPress file?

    Regards,
    Tim

  3. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Tim, thank you for your reply. My main problem is Category Feed Options bug and I've checked this again. That I've done:
    Make new category
    Name -> My new test category
    Category description -> Empty
    iTunes:Summary -> Insert custom value -> It's a test category
    iTunes:Subtitle -> Insert custom value -> My new category for testing
    Podcast title / Feed title -> Use the name of category
    Description (Tagline) -> Use Category Description
    That I've got in xml:

    <title>My site name » My new test category</title>
    <description>My site description</description>
    <itunes:subtitle/>
    <itunes:summary>My site description</itunes:summary>

    As you can see I have a problem in the tags. It is something wrong.

  4. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Well, okay what you get is definitely not what podPress should give you.
    But the question is why you get such a XML output. I have done a few first tests and followed the steps you have done. So far I have no trouble to customize the feed title, itunes:subtitle and itunes:summary. If you leave the category description empty and choose Use Category Description then this feed gets automatically the description of the default feeds. That is that way a long time. But maybe it is worth to change that behaviour. But that is probably not the big problem.

    There is one very interesting thing in the output you have posted above:

    <itunes:subtitle/>

    There is no way that this is a tag which podPress has added to the feed.
    It is possible that podPress inserts an empty <itunes:subtitle> tag but - and this is maybe a bug - not in this good style of an empty XML element. (the ouput of podPress would be <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>)

    Somehow this output is not the direct output of podPress.

    Please, make sure that there is no other plugin caching or interfering in any other way with the feed - at least during your tests.

    But it is not impossible that the software which you use to view the XML has displayed the subtitle tag this way.
    Maybe use Firefox to view this feed. Right-click and use View source code to view the XML of the feed. Maybe the software you are using streamlines the code.

    I will make some further tests too.

  5. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Sorry.
    I have turned off my second plugin RSS Importer and made the same steps plus made category description. With the same result. This is my feedlink - . And a new note. iTunes:Summary for category takes from iTunes:Summary from Settings for the default Feeds, even if iTunes:Summary for category is custom value.
    I use Google Chrome and MS XML Notepad. The outputs are equal.

  6. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Okay. That is really a tricky problem. Please, post the name of your blog (or maybe the link again). Maybe I can see something which may help to solve the problem.

  7. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hello, Tim!
    News about tags made by podPress. I made several clean installations of WP and pP for testing.

    • WP3.1.3+pP8.8.10.7 - correct tags
    • WP3.2.1+pP8.8.10.7 - correct tags
    • WP3.1.3+pP8.8.10.8 - uncorrect tags
    • WP3.2.1+pP8.8.10.8 - uncorrect tags

    pP8.8.10.8 doesn't make tags for categories. It remains tags like no category casting is using.
    Category with no category casting enable

    Category with podPress category casting enable

    There is no difference in xml. WP3.2.1+pP8.8.10.8

  8. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I don't know why I cannot make good links.( Anyway use strings below
    Category with no category casting enables - http://iptara.ks8.ru/wordpress/?feed=rss2&cat=3
    Category with podPress category casting enables -
    http://iptara.ks8.ru/wordpress/?feed=rss2&cat=4
    There is no difference in xml. WP3.2.1+pP8.8.10.8

  9. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thank you for posting the links! And I tell you that I could discover the difference between our test environments:
    I have used always the a non-default Permalink scheme like "Day and Name". If you activate this or a different Permalink scheme then the Category Casting settings will work. I need to investigate why this happens but you may use this as a little work-a-round in the meantime.

    Now, that I can reproduce the problem, I'm very confident that I fix this. Thank you for staying with me on that issue.
    I will report back when I have uploaded a bug fix into the Development Version.

  10. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    I have uploaded the patch. It is part of the Development Version (8.8.10.9 RC 3).
    Please, install this version. It will most likely help with the problem.

  11. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I've tried dev. version. What can I say? I resolved one problem and found another. iTunes tags have become okey but I've lost my posts in the feed. If I turn on category casting then title tags are disappear. Turn off - appear, turn on - disappear. And this behavior doesn't depend on type of Permalink scheme. It occurs with any one. Check links above out you'll see it. My test post belongs to the both category but is visible only in feed category with no category casting. By the way, it happens also in 8.8.10.7 but only with non-default Permalink scheme. If Permalink scheme is default then feed is okey.

  12. ip_tara
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Offtop. It's most wanted for me to have images for posts with itunes:image tag in item tag. Thanks.

  13. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    No, that is no further bug. It looks like you have only one post in your test blog and that post is in cat=3 and cat=4. But this post has no podPress attachment and one of the default settings of the Category Casting is to include only posts with podPress attachment into the category feed. That means that the feed of cat=4 has no <item>s because you have no post with podPress attachment.
    Add a media file with podPress to the post or deactivate the option.

    It's most wanted for me to have images for posts with itunes:image tag in item tag.

    It is noted. I will add such an option in one of the next podPress versions. (But not in 8.8.10.9)

  14. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    It's most wanted for me to have images for posts with itunes:image tag in item tag.

    In 8.8.11 it will be possible to add one itunes:image per post.
    (There is branch of podPress for version 8.8.11 in the repository which includes this option now.)

  15. meetwp
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I am having similar problems with WP 3.1.3 and podpress Version 8.8.10.9
    The feed for the english site shows iTunes summary correctly.
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelphrases
    But the feed for the japanese site cuts off
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelkaiwa

    This is what it shows
    ミートイタリア・トラベル会話は、あなたの旅行の、言葉のお供です。イタリア語レッスンは、旅行で役立つ基本フレーズを勉強するための助けになるでしょう。文法にはとらわれないでください。イタリアでのコミュニケーションの中で、何が重要となるか、そのことに焦点を当ててくださいね。より深い学習のためには、練習用のトラックとPDFファイルの併用をお勧めします。

    This is what it should contain
    ミートイタリア・トラベル会話は、あなたの旅行の、言葉のお供です。イタリア語レッスンは、旅行で役立つ基本フレーズを勉強するための助けになるでしょう。文法にはとらわれないでください。イタリアでのコミュニケーションの中で、何が重要となるか、そのことに焦点を当ててくださいね。より深い学習のためには、練習用のトラックとPDFファイルの併用をお勧めします。ミートイタリアのプレミアメンバーに登録すると、イタリア語の『学習コンテンツ』にアクセス出来ます!イタリア旅行に行く前の、イタリア語の勉強にピッタリ!プレミアメンバーになれば『学ぶ』100項目以上のイタリア語トラベル会話の学習コンテンツにアクセスして勉強できる!『トレーニング』
    ネイティブみたいな会話が出来るようになる為に、イタリア語トラベル会話のトレーニングトラックにアクセスして、実際に発声練習が出来る!『楽しむ』学んだ内容で面白いクイズを楽しめるから、更に身に付く!

    In this other feed it shows the subtitle in the summary field
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/ja/meetitalia/cuisine
    Shows:
    このシリーズでは、美味しいイタリア料理の作り方を学ぶことができます。
    準備をしているだけでよだれがこぼれてしまいそうな、最も美味しい伝統的なイタリア料理が満載。
    あなたの好きなイタリア料理の歴史やそのレシピにまつわる秘密まで楽しみながら学習できます。
    Should show:
    ミ―トイタリアが提供するイタリア料理「グルメ」チャンネルでは実際にフリービデオレッスンでその料理の作り方と共に料理だけでなく、イタリアワインを楽しむ秘訣を知ることができます。

    イタリア料理 レッスンでは、イタリア語のナレーションと共に日本語の字幕が流れます。
    また料理のレシピーはPDFでより深く学ぶことができます。
    ミートイタリア プレミアメンバー に登録していただくことでたくさんのマテリアルと学習ツールを使いながら
    イタリア料理を学ぶことができます。
    この登録に含まれるもの:
    『学ぶ』
    イタリア料理レッスンにアクセス
    『トレーニング』
    トレーニングトラックにアクセスして、イタリア料理に関連する単語が勉強出来ます
    『楽しむ』
    学んだ料理で面白いクイズを楽しめるから、更に身に付く!

    今すぐ「ミートイタリアプレミアメンバー」に登録しましょう!

    Thank you

  16. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    @meetwp

    The feed for the english site shows iTunes summary correctly.
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelphrases
    But the feed for the japanese site cuts off
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelkaiwa

    Okay, the itunes:summary does not contain the text which it should contain. But on a first look it seems that the function of podPress which limits the number of characters of those descriptions has nothing to do with the current length of the itunes:summary. This function would add an abbrevation sign like this: [...].
    So I guess the problem lies elsewhere.
    Is that category feed? Or is it a podPress Feed? What are your settings for Description (Tagline), iTunes:Subtitle and iTunes:Summary?

    In this other feed it shows the subtitle in the summary field

    Is it a category feed? What are your settings for Description (Tagline), iTunes:Subtitle and iTunes:Summary?

    <itunes:subtitle> and <itunes:summary> of this feed (<channel>) are having the same content at the moment. The <description is different. iTunes uses that as a the summary if the <itunes:summary> does not exists (see http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/specs.html#summary).

    Regards,
    Tim

  17. meetwp
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Is that category feed? Or is it a podPress Feed? What are your settings for Description (Tagline), iTunes:Subtitle and iTunes:Summary?

    It is a category feed. I have enabled category casting.
    Description (Tagline) Use category description in both English and Japanese
    iTunes:Subtitle Insert custom value in both English and Japanese
    iTunes:Summary Insert custom value in both English and Japanese

    <itunes:subtitle> and <itunes:summary> of this feed (<channel>) are having the same content at the moment. The <description is different. iTunes uses that as a the summary if the <itunes:summary> does not exists (see http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/specs.html#summary).

    Thank you for the explanation!

  18. IAmediaworks
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Since the latest upgrade, iTunes is reporting our feed as invalid:

    "The Expert Witness Radio Show >> Podcast Feed" does not seem to be a valid podcast URL.

    The feed was working fine until the upgrade - for a long time now.

    Site: http://www.expertwitnessradio.org

    Thanks!

  19. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    @IAmediaworks: Which is your current podPress version?

    (@IAmediaworks and also @meetwp: Please, consider to open a new thread next time. The problems in your blogs have most likely nothing to do with the first topic of this thread. Thanks.)

  20. IAmediaworks
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Sorry about that! Current version: 8.8.10.9

    Thanks!

  21. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thank you for the version number and for reporting the problem. I know where to look now and will probably fix this today or tomorrow.

  22. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    @IAmediaworks: I have uploaded a patch. It is part of the current Development Version. I would appreciate it if could try this version.
    (You may need to clear the cache memory of your feed reader/feedburner/feed cache plugin in case you use such software.)

  23. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    @meetwp: I don't know wether installing the current Development Version will help in your case or not. But you may try it.
    I'm still not sure why the itunes:summary in http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelkaiwa is shorter as it should be.
    But I have noticed a difference to the itunes:summary of the English feed (http://feeds.feedburner.com/meetitalia-travelphrases). The itunes:summary of this feed contains certain line break characters which are not in the Japanese feed.
    Please, control the itunes:summary input of the Japanese feed and remove all line breaks in that summary as test.

  24. IAmediaworks
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hey...

    How do I do this without losing all of our settings?

    Thanks!

    m.

  25. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    @IAmediaworks:

    • Make a backup of your data base.
    • Download the Development Version .zip file.
    • extract the .zip file on your local computer
    • upload the extracted files and folders to your blog (so that they replace the old files and sub folders which are usually in /wp-content/plugins/podpress)

    That is it.
    But it is a good idea to download the 8.8.10.9 .zip file and if something is not working then install this version the same way.

  26. IAmediaworks
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    THANK YOU!!!!!

  27. IAmediaworks
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    WORKED!!!!

    Thanks SO much.

  28. meetwp
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    @ntm Understood, next time I'll do a new post!
    Sorry for posting here.

    I had taken out the line breaks trying to test if they were the issue.
    I have pasted plain text.
    I have also tried to change the summary field form custom to global.
    Nothing changes I always get the following text

    <itunes:summary>ミートイタリア・トラベル会話は、あなたの旅行の、言葉のお供です。ポッドキャストのレッスンは、旅行で役立つ基本フレーズを勉強するための助けになるでしょう。文法にはとらわれないでください。イタリアでのコミュニケーションの中で、何が重要となるか、そのことに焦点を当ててくださいね。より深い学習のためには、練習用のトラックとPDFファイルの併用をお勧めします。</itunes:summary>
    Maybe it's stuck in a cache?
    Is there any way to clear a feed cache in podpress?

    Thank you

  29. ntm
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Maybe it's stuck in a cache?

    Yes, maybe.

    Is there any way to clear a feed cache in podpress?

    podPress does not cache the feed. But Feedburner and the some cache plugins for WP blog do it. Also web browser or feed readers tend to cache feeds. (I'm using Firefox to get a first look of rss feeds. In order to see modifications, I need to clear the browser cache before each reload.) But since I get this text to, the problem might not be the browser cache.

    Maybe use the original feed URL to control the modifications: http://ja.meetitalia.org/category/travel-phrases/feed/
    The subtitle and the summary look different to ones in the Feedburner version:

    <itunes:subtitle>このシリーズでは、文法事項の分析は行いません。その代わりに、外国でのコミュニケーションにとって必要なことに焦点を当てていきます。それぞれの課は、一つかそれ以上の短い会話から始まります。それらの文章を、いつ、どのように使っていくのかを勉強します。各課の後には、練習用のトラックがついています。学んだばかりのことを早速実践してみるためにも、ぜひ利用してみてください![...]</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:summary>Just another MeetItalia.org site</itunes:summary>

    The summary settings seems to be "Use Global" at the moment.

    I have made a further little test and inserted the long itunes:summary text (which you have posted above) into a category feed of my test blog:
    "http://undeuxoutrois.de/wp/category/allgemeines/podcast/feed/"
    It was no problem.

    Maybe try it again in your blog and control the result in the original feed.

  30. meetwp
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hello, the above text is fine as it is in both description and subtitle.
    Can you try pasting this in your feed?

    ミートイタリア・トラベル会話は、あなたの旅行の、言葉のお供です。イタリア語レッスンは、旅行で役立つ基本フレーズを勉強するための助けになるでしょう。文法にはとらわれないでください。イタリアでのコミュニケーションの中で、何が重要となるか、そのことに焦点を当ててくださいね。より深い学習のためには、練習用のトラックとPDFファイルの併用をお勧めします。

    ミートイタリアのプレミアメンバーに登録すると、イタリア語の『学習コンテンツ』にアクセス出来ます!
    イタリア旅行に行く前の、イタリア語の勉強にピッタリ!

    プレミアメンバーになれば、

    『学ぶ』
    100項目以上のイタリア語トラベル会話の学習コンテンツにアクセスして勉強できる!

    『トレーニング』
    ネイティブみたいな会話が出来るようになる為に、イタリア語トラベル会話のトレーニングトラックにアクセスして、実際に発声練習が出来る!

    『楽しむ』
    学んだ内容で面白いクイズを楽しめるから、更に身に付く!

    I wonder if the 『 are breaking the code.

    I've now also tried to use the Summary Burner in feedburner.

    I have been testing first of all the website category feed, here

    But still had the same problem.
    I clear the cache before reloading a new feedvalidator page

    So to recap at the moment the japanese text in this post is in both the WordPress Summary and in Summary Burner on feedburner.

    Thank you!

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