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BlueHost.com / Fantastico not installing wordpress anymore? (13 posts)

  1. ivanbohannon
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I just signed up for a new bluehost domain, and umm BlueHost/Fantastico only auto-installs "Nucleus", not wordpress.

  2. figaro
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    It's still on my Bluehost account in fantastico...along with b2evolution and Nucleus. I've had the account for a couple of years, so don't know about new accounts.

    Having said that, I never use the autoinstallers, like fantastico, for production sites...I'll use it every now and then just to take a quick look at something, but not for continued use...too many potential problems in the future.

    I would recommend installing WP manually. Here is a video showing how to do a manual WP install on Bluehost.

    http://educhalk.org/blog/?p=1

  3. BrianTokyo
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    That makes no sense. It's perfectly ok to use Fantastico to install wordpress in "production sites".

  4. Depends on what kind of 'production' support you want :)

    You do get better results with a manual upgrade on a heavily modified site (*raises guilty hand*), but if you're just running a standard personal blog for your own entertainment, ain't nothing wrong. Fantastico's only problem (for me) is how long the bloody thing takes to get the new release :/ When a security patch comes out, I want it ASAFP.

  5. BrianTokyo
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Yeah, they usually take long. For 2.6x it took weeks, however 2.7 was just a couple days

  6. figaro
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    That makes no sense. It's perfectly ok to use Fantastico to install wordpress in "production sites".

    It makes perfect sense to me. But, if that is your preference, then by all means, do it. I'm merely stating what I prefer.

    When you use fantastico to upgrade your site and it breaks, then come on back here and someone will help you fix it ;-)

  7. figaro
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Just to add a couple more things to think about for anyone else reading this thread. I just installed WP on Bluehost using Fantastico. As of today, 1 Jan 2009:

    1. WordPress 2.6.5 is installed
    2. The database collation is set to latin1_swedish_ci
    3. All tables in the database are set to latin1_swedish_ci
    4. The config.php file contains: define('DB_CHARSET', 'utf8');

    The config.php file db_charset is good...if only it were true ;-)

    Bottom line...to paraphrase Forrest Gump, using an auto installer is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you're going to get.

    Disclaimer: This is not a shot at Bluehost...I've had an account with them for a very long time and have no complaints. It's just information, and my opinion, about some possible pitfalls of using auto-installers for production sites for any type software...not just WP.

  8. BrianTokyo
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Wow 2.6.5, that's Bluehost's fault. I have cpanel/fantastico in my server and 2.7 has been available from nettenberg for a while now.

  9. figaro
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Wow 2.6.5, that's Bluehost's fault.

    Maybe, but that's not the main problem...the problem (or I should say potential future problem) is the latin1_swedish_ci db and tables.

  10. re2joice
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I uploaded the upgraded WP 2.7 Theme over WP 2.6.5 theme and "overwrite all", and at BlueHost...Fantastico still 2.6.5.

    I asked BlueHost why Fantastico still 2.6.5 if wp now is 2.7.
    BlueHost answered...to change to Simple Scripts. I said no and I asked why BH didn't change it yet...and I was told that the change is done by Fantastico. I asked how to contact Fantastico...the answer was...I don't know.

    I searched for Fantastico...and found nothing. Do they exist?

    I understand that other hosts...already have Fantastico changed to wp 2.7.

    And now...I am curious to find out if it was a right thing to do.

    I hope someone here can tell me if I should worry.

    Thanks in advance.

  11. naysway
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I think BlueHost is blowing smoke up everyone's butt. I just went to the Netenberg.com site (home of Fantastico de luxe), and under their "Scripts being installed by Fantastico de luxe" page, WordPress 2.7 is on there. Looks like BlueHost is the hold up, not Fantastico.

  12. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 5 years ago #

    On these forums, we tend to recommend avoiding the use of any automated installation systems for WordPress, including Fantastico. Why? Because we have no idea what their system does to WordPress, and therefore we can't support it easily.

    Installing WordPress manually is not difficult. The instructions are easy to follow, and you'll learn something in the process (where your database actually lives, how to FTP to your site). That sort of hands on experience is something every WordPress administrator should have and understand.

  13. re2joice
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @ naysway:
    - you right about BlueHost.
    - it is good to know that Fantastico exist and hiding somewhere. :)

    @ Otto42:
    It is good to know that to install WordPress manualy is not difficult. I am not a techie person so I never tried. But I will try next time... and not to depend on hosts.

    Thanks guys for jumping in here and helping out.

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