Posted 7 years ago #
I found out this morning that my blog, which is powered by WordPress and published with my domain name
http://covonline.net
also appeared here:
http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/covonline.net
Maybe you think: "so what?"
Well, look at your site!
http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/wordpress.org
Just the same.
I find the banner totally repulsive and wrote to them but am not sure what can be done.
Posted 7 years ago #
I'd say sites like that, and the companies that own them are scamming theiving b*stards myself.
Maybe Peter would like an email ?
Registrant:
Icthus.Net Communications
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Fatima Avenue
Philamlife Village
Las Pinas City, Metro Manila 1701
PH
+63-2-8725118
Registration Service Provider:
Icthus.Net Communications, peter@arachinc.com
+63-2-8725118
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.
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Posted 7 years ago #
That's pretty ate up, you can put any address at the end of that and it will load with their header.
Posted 7 years ago #
OMG, I just put my blog address on the end of it and got my site too! What is the purpose of it all!?
Posted 7 years ago #
Podz, I already wrote an email this morning and doubt that I'll get any reply.
Thanks for the trouble though.
I posted about this on my blog, and some guy said
"They are simply using a proxy. They would normally have no way to remove the site.
However you should remove the links above.
Otherwise they will be crawled by Google and it may negatively affect your SERP and the others you have linked"
What do you advise?
Posted 7 years ago #
Well the whois gives us a throwaway email address for all those useful webforms...for usenet postings...spammers always need web addresses
Not a lot we can do I guess.
Just a thought-- if everyone here posted links all over the web to 404 or "domain not found" stuff, ie: http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/xlcdy.com
http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/rurururu.org
Or better yet:
http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/whitehouse.gov/biteme.htm
Well, rather than ruin OUR google serps, wouldn't it ruin his?
Posted 7 years ago #
A workaround?
Ronni Bennett at http://timegoesby.net found this on the net
http://law4pda.org/wp/2005/01/18/blogger_tip_break_out_of_frames/
which would be a workaround.
I am not trying this until one of you geeks says it's OK as I don't want to ruin my blog.
It is simply a proxy. In fact I suggest that you take down all the links you have posted as it has a decent chance of negatively affecting your SERPS due to duplicate content penalty, specially low PR blogs.
There is a plugin I believe which breaks out of frame your blog content. FrameBuster or something
Posted 7 years ago #
The Semiologic Frame Buster plugin (yes, I know it's a simple bit of javascript) works perfectly for me. It breaks out of the Blog Widow frame.
Posted 7 years ago #
It's not simply a proxy. I'm getting pop-unders from the bastitch! Someone is using other people's work to sell stuff.
Posted 7 years ago #
<irony>
No offense, but a frame-busting script seems so 1998.
</irony>
Your solution here:
Posted 7 years ago #
Speaking of the frame-buster plugin, it would make sense if the plugin somehow warned the admin when it happens to be triggered. should anyone feel like creating the script for this.
Posted 7 years ago #
Framebuster worked like a charm. I'm going to have to write a few e-mails to other bloggers (ones that actually have some traffic) to get a frame-busting script set up. It's easier to knock out the frames than to try to prosecute copyright violations across int'l borders.
Posted 7 years ago #
Thanks for frame-buster. I activated it and tried the blackwidow thing (yes, I know it's blogwidow, but...) and caught sight of the banner, but then it went straight to my page. Is that the way it's supposed to work?
Posted 7 years ago #
yup: it executes the script as it loads.
Posted 7 years ago #
That's how it should work, ccf. Denis, thanks for making the plugin - I had an old script laying around (*laughing* - yeah, since about 1998, matter of fact!), but yours is shorter and more "elegant" I guess you would say....
Otherwise, as regards the blackwidow crapsite: plus ça change, plus ça la même chose....
Posted 7 years ago #
*sigh* Sorry!
Frame Buster or the Javascript code is good so long your users have Javascript enabled.
Really, I don't see the big deal about this. They are not "publishing" your content. This site is a 'portal' that aggregates recent updates to blogs, like http://blo.gs does. Only this one puts a big ugly frame above your site. This allows users to go back to their site with a quick header link, after having their fill of that particular site.
While it may not be cool, it's not the end of the world. You can use the frame buster code, but I don't really care if some random site puts a frame around mine. Hell, even Google does it: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.jalenack.com/wp-content/images/authors/9.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.jalenack.com/&h=50&w=50&sz=4&tbnid=ci4HG2S7qFUJ:&tbnh=50&tbnw=50&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblog.jalenack.com%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26hs%3D1eQ%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
Posted 7 years ago #
*sigh* jalenack, it's a big deal to me. I don't WANT my blogs anywhere. My stuff is my stuff, and NOT generally for the public - There are a few people to whom I've given the addys but in general I don't care to have "visitors/commenters". That's why I have all the ping and trackback crap turned off. If YOU want millions of visitors, fine.... that's your choice. I don't have any need to make my posts on anything public, period.
If I wanted that sort of exposure, I'd get it from a more legitimate source - like Technorati.
angusuman: I'm the only person I know who does anything "special" with js. The few folks who access my sites all asked in patently blank stupefaction "what ARE you talking about?" when I asked if they surfed with js disabled.... Compared to most people I know, I AM uber-geek....
@vkaryl
That is very true these days :)
@vkaryl
unless your site is actually listed there the only way to view your site is by typing in http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/yoursite.com and setting that variable when you view it. If its not listed, its not linked to. Nothing to worry about.
I'm assuming you have turned off the auto ping to pingomatic so services don't know when you post. And assuming you have a robots.txt to protect you from search engines to keep you private, you have an extremely low chance of actually being indexed there.
The problem is much bigger!
They are actually publishing the links on their own probably using some backdoor pages to populate google, yahoo etc.
So now in your search results these sites will come too.
Do a search on Google to see how many sites they are hijacking:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogwidow.com%2F
This is clearly not acceptable.
I suggest everyone should write to google about this.
I will do so too.
First they are displaying AdSense of sites which contain AdSense on their own site which is against their policy.
Secondly they are literally stealing our content and putting ads on them.
Posted 7 years ago #
That not the core issue. The issue is that they are peddling these url's thereby increasing their SERP's with our content.
Posted 7 years ago #
It's just a frame! I could easily set up the same thing. It's not stealing, and their framed URI isn't going to knock your site down in Google, because what they are showing in the bottom frame is your site. Look at the URI of the bottom frame... it's the real URI of the site.
Didn't any of you try building a site with frames circa 1997? It's essentially two (or more) different pages, shown side by side. I can also pull up google.com in one browser window and my blog in another and tile the windows so that they're right next to each other. Same effect.
The content isn't on their server, it's on yours. Grab a frame-buster if it bothers you.
Try this url before you comment. See what it is doing to your SERPS.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogwidow.com%2F
I know it is frames. But do you know that frame components are treated as part of the site by search engines, even if on different servers? Check the url above. It will clarify.
@angsuman
If you google for yourself in site "www.blogwidow.com"
You will not find any results. Despite the fact that you can see your site at http://www.blogwidow.com/cgi/view.cgi/blog.taragana.com
Until you Submit an article Your site is not actually listed on the front page of blogwidow.com. All those pages in the results of your search...
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogwidow.com%2F are only listed because google spidered while they were listed on the Main page
So chill out dude and loosen your panties. Get a frame breaker and go back to your grandma's basement.
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