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BLOG:CMS vs. WordPress (32 posts)

  1. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Any opinion?

  2. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Apples and oranges come to mind. If you sit down and clearly define what you want and need for a set of tools to manage your site(s), then you will have a basis for comparison.

  3. Ozh
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Didnt know about this blogware, and from what I can read on the Feature pages, it looks pretty good and seems to have a lot in common with WP. One thing I'd like to know, just being curious, is how it compares with WP on a MySQL and CPU matter. One thing it seems totally owned at by WP is the community though, which is IMO part of the important features of a blogware.

  4. Sebbi
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I wrote an article about that new blogthingy :-)
    http://www.sebbi.de/archives/2004/08/12/blogcms-vs-wordpress/
    As it is in German, i'll give you a quick summary:
    Without having it tried out and only looking at their feature list including the rest of their website, i conclude, that it is not worth to migrate from wordpress to blog:cms. They do not offer a single (important) thing that is not yet possible with wordpress, except for WYSIWYG-editing (would be simple to add via htmlarea or via the live preview plugin) and multi-blog-support (which is not an issue if you can afford copying your wordpress-folder over and over and use different database-prefixes).
    The only thing that bugs me is, that blog:cms seems to have a better plugin-support (not with plugins but support for plugins i mean). I base all my hope on the upcoming wordpress 1.3 release to deliver a better "api" :-)
    If I am missing an important point why blog:cms should be better than wordpress, please correct me...

  5. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    *sigh* *big heavy sigh* Are we *really* going to have this discussion - which will degrade into an arguement given time - AGAIN?
    TG

  6. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Awr? I didn't realize there was something called BLOG:CMS when I wrote that last comment, I thought Anon was lokking for opinions on using a blog for CMS.....
    TG

  7. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well, I do not think the developers want to help people migrate from other tools.
    http://forum.blogcms.com/viewtopic.php?id=535

  8. Sebbi
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So BLOG:CMS has 50x more functionality than WP ... ok, where? Maybe out of the box, but in the end?
    As a sidenote: this literarymoose wrote something for blog:cms? And Radek is referencing him in his "r-i-p wordpress"-posting, right? And i thought literarymoose is against open source in every way ... whatever ... from the comments on your blog it looks like the author is also not very community-friendly ... but again, these are only my first impressions of him ...

  9. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    well, he did not like me posting questions i had about the tool on that forum. and well he considered asking questions scrEEming. I still am not sure since when asking questions because scrEEming in czech language.
    What I felt is that he was afraid so many questions about that tool in the forum will get a new user afraid...
    OMG, so many questions. This thing would be tough to use. Because even though he claims to have 16000 blogs. There are hardly 1000 posts on the forums. :)

  10. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Blog:CMS seems to be largely based on Nucleus. I saw it yesterday (referenced by someone on another blog) (of course), and the first thing that caught my attention about the demo was the fact that there even was /nucleus/ in the URL. Funny. Of course, anyone can fork of any Open Source project, but I don't see much of an improvement over Nucleus.
    I'll stick with WP for now, thank you very much =]

  11. Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 9 years ago #

    That support forum thread and post on your blog is pretty intense, but remember everyone gets a short thread sometimes. I feel spoiled by these forums now too. :)

  12. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    well. the good thing about WP is that Wiki is so much developed that to search for something I do not have to go through a bible. It is a blog tool that promised to work out of the box and it did not. So, am i expected to read the entire FAQs just to get the thing working?
    Even Linux do not require me buying a manual and read it. I got it working with the help of support forums and no one told me to go buy Linux for dummies and labelled me a troll.

  13. hanni
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yeah, I'd like to echo how lucky we are that there are lots of patient experienced Wp users out there who will help willingly and that the devs are also so willing to help and enjoy what they are doing so much.

  14. marvin
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

  15. southerngal
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I installed it to try it on a new blog I'm testing. I couldn't get past the skin switcher thing. See?
    In my opinion the ego on the creator is unbelievable to me. Yes, thank you for making the program and now get over yourself about it. The people on the forums here at least try to help and aren't rude to everyone when they don't get their ring kissed! I have a real problem with some of the things on the forum that were said to others hoping to get help as well as some things in the install files and conversion files. Amazing.
    I have uninstalled that program and put WP in place of it. I had WP installed and wanted to see what the other one was all about. Luckily I hadn't posted anything to the blog as it's a test blog, so no harm done.
    Seems to me that the creator is young or just very excitable. Doesn't explain things very clearly in the install either. If I didn't know how to install WP I would have been lost installing this.
    Just my opinions, don't hang me out to dry! I really love WP and everyone here knows it. ;) Y'all are great with the help if you know the answers.

  16. carthik
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Sometimes I am given to wondering whether the forums aren't polite and nice due to the lack of one-big-doc.
    Not an excuse for not having that one-big-doc, just a thought.
    For one, we don't see many RTFMs around here. :)

  17. davedorm
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The only thing I see in BLOG:CMS that interests me directly is the integration of a forum. Did I read correctly that comments are actualy made in the PunBB forum and not in a typical comments system?
    That is impressive. But that developer guy is an assclown. I am not sure it is worth dealing with his crap to use his product.

  18. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thank God. I am not the only one who thinks he was being unbelievably unreasonable and well jackass.

  19. southerngal
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Sushubh, you aren't the only one and I'm glad you are over here on these forums! :) Are you still using BLOG:CMS? I thought it was cute, if all you want to do is pull it out of the box and blog. But, I'm not like that. I want it to look the way I want without getting a headache or feel like I'm pulling teeth!

  20. hanni
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Sushubh, you definitely aren't alone, that guy was an idiot.

  21. clay
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Reading that forum post was enough for me to not be interested.
    He seems only to want praise and worship for a product he put out thinking was perfect.. and does not want anyone to point out any flaws.
    Besides I am happy with what I have created and setup using WP(and I haven't even upgraded to 1.2). I don't feel like tossing away the hours I've spent on it to use some new program with an admin that doesn't appear too helpful

  22. tedfox
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Oh come on... this guy did *spend 1000 hours on it* (I'm surprised he hasn't changed it to 1002 or sth) And he's doing it all for free man.... when he could be charging $5000 a client.
    And oh my!! It has the best default looking template. What else do u want.... and look at the hardwork he has put in... The install package has gone from 3mb from 1mb in nucleus. 350kb of documentations!!
    That's bigger then the whole WP installation. So many goodies for you...
    all by some egoistical fool -_-"

  23. Ozh
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    (on the default template, curious ones should have a look at Dotclear, a French blogware engine (don't know if it's available in english) : installation wicked easy as WP, and default templates really clean and pretty) (have a look at http://hisyh.xaleo.fr/ or http://www.zuckonline.com/dotclear/index.php, default templates used there)

  24. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Hey people. TG just discovered why WP's default template is not that good looking. Because we just do not want all the WP Blogs to look alike! Matt is smart... :D
    Similar cases of hidden agendas can be seen from the fact that there is no email notification on this forum. So we have little option but to bounce back to the forums again and again and again :)

  25. zadu
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Sushubh, check out what happened to your post
    "Because Open Source is not about Favors"
    wtf??

  26. Joni
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Good lord. People are taking things way too seriously. I hope Sushubh.net isn't next! Yeesh!

  27. clay
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Is that why the support forum was going so slow earlier this morning?
    haa
    Fanboys..

  28. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    duh, people here knew abt my hacked site before i did :(

  29. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 9 years ago #

    yesterday developer of renamed CMS Gnucles into "his" Blog:CMS (95% of original Gnucleus with add-ons of other people) did make DoS attack on my site and site of my friend with dirty comments, he did it after writing criticism from my side and my friend
    opinion about if you want to choose CMS with that kind of developer (who attack other sites where is critic about him/BlogCMS) is on you

  30. pezastic
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    @Anon:
    What are you talking about, Gnucles and Gnucleus? I think you have Gnutella on your mind. Or, perhaps you just got a Gmail account! You meant to say Nucleus CMS, right?
    So, the referenced developer didn't write anything on his own? I thought he spent over 1,000 hours on Blog:CMS. BTW, did he ever get Blog:CMS to include multiple categories and subcategories for posts like he promised he would?

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