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  1. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I have received the following threat in my Comment section. I want the extortionist tracked dow, which will take the involvment of PayPal and your organization. This kind of activity must be stopped. Please llok into this as soon as possible, and get back to me right away. I am not sure how to proceed, but I want to know the source of this extortion attempt.

    [Cut email in the interests of privacy]

  2. cubecolour
    ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ
    Posted 2 years ago #

    You're using WordPress free open source software, and volunteers on this forum may be able to offer advice, but that's as far as we can help.

    Report this to paypal and check your security is as solid as it can be. Start with http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPress

  3. Soccerwidow
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    You're not the only one... it seems that this blackmail comment' trackback hit many webmasters. I too received this and don't like it at all.

    Here a link to a forum where people discuss this crap: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/576831-i-just-received-vicious-blog-comment.html

  4. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    My website is hardened, but a dedicated hacker can get through. The point is, I want to know the physical location of this person--which I understand from my FBI and police friends is indeed possible. The thing is, they won't get involved unless there is big money in the case. As for me, I would not at all mind taking a trip to San Francisco (or anywhere else in the US) and meeting this hacker up close and personal. These extortionists should be confronted, and especially by a person who has nothing to lose and who harbors many beasts within... a sad admission. I have already tracked down the IP location, but I am not sure how to proceed from there given the routing possibilities. But confront these criminals we must, and in no uncertain terms. All I need is help tracking this person down to fixed location. something that will give me a name, address, and phone number. Then I must confirm that the location is correct. Confirmation is everything when it comes to justice. Is such a thing possible?

  5. Scraped Media
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hello,

    Yes this has nothing to do with Scraped Media Pty Ltd, it's just someone spamming blogs trying to cause problems.

    However we have traced who's doing it, and been in contact with our business accounts manager at PayPal who will handle it. If anyone did send money to us at either of those PayPal addresses it will be immediately returned.

    You can just delete the comment, there is no risk to your blog being hacked it's just bulk spam.

    Regards, Scraped Media.

  6. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Please forward the person's name, physical address, and phone number. Better yet, post it. If someone wants to play a vicous game, so be it. I have a right to know who that someone is--we all do. And that someone, must be held accountable.

  7. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    @ghe101library

    While I offer only a comment rather than advice, one might think that the wisest thing to do if you really want to pursue the issue, would be to get with legal councel and stop posting about it in an open forum. Especially given the exceptionally wide interpretation that your last comment could be subject to.

  8. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    The very reason these criminals get away with this behavior is because they are not known. They hide in dark places. Would you have us shrink away from confronting these folks in public? Moreover, someone claims to know the person and his/her location! Hey, this is what I would/will do. If given the person's name, address, etc., I would first confirm the info. I would indeed go to his or her location after I had contacted the police. When I'm sure the evidence is in hand, I would indeed confront the person in question directly, at the police station or at his home--whatever the locals felt best. And I would make that person answerable for blackmail, because that is what is being attempted. Would I like to beat the person senseless? It is hard not to want that. Is that the right thing to do? Of course not! But is confronting him right? We have a duty to confront folks who threaten or steal from us, a social responcibility. I say in public what I would say in private, and I've no qualms about it. We owe the community our honesty above all else. And this person who is trying to rip people off needs to know there are consequences for action.

  9. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Scraped Media is a WordPress website, so I would think you people would get involved in bringing this blackmailer to the attention of the police. It is you good name that is getting abused, and the hacker should be held accountable.

  10. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Would you have us shrink away from confronting these folks in public?

    Absolutely. It needs to be done properly, and quietly. By intelligent people who are properly equipped to handle it, and who are empowered by the law to do so. Scraped Media appears to have already made an attempt to initiate that process.

    We have a duty to confront folks who threaten or steal from us, a social responcibility.

    I agree. And again; It needs to be done properly, and quietly. By intelligent people who are properly equipped to handle it, and who are empowered by the law to do so.

    Discussions that get posted openly on the internet in circumstances such as these becomes a permanent record, either for - or against - any future litigation that might be possible. That's a lot to consider.

    On the lighter side: I think you might just be feeling so much indignation at this point, that it's blowing a spammer situation way out of proportion.

    Just my opinion, mind you. Thanks for letting me share! Good luck to you!

  11. Mooky
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thanks to the original poster for posting this. I got the same 'trackback' message today on my WP website and I wasn't sure of what to do. I hope this person gets what they deserve and this doesn't go unnoticed/neglected.

  12. Scraped Media is a WordPress website, so I would think you people would get involved in bringing this blackmailer to the attention of the police.

    This place, WordPress.ORG, does not host anyone's blog. As cubecolour already said

    You're using WordPress free open source software, and volunteers on this forum may be able to offer advice, but that's as far as we can help.

    If you want to follow up with PayPal and/or the authorities, that's up to you. But while we all may sympathize with you and offer advice, it really doesn't have anything to do with anyone here.

  13. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    This issue has to do with the entire community who use WordPress, and if WP people don't feel we unwashed should get involved for the sake of a more "intelligent" approach, so be it. But some of us think this issue should be screamed about. For heaven's sake, folks are being blackmailed and one of WordPress' subscribers is being left to the wolves. Scraped Media doesn't need this mess, nor do I or the numerous other people who use WordPress. If we cannot look to WordPress for direct and VERY public involvement, then let it be known as a matter of permanent public record. For this issue to be simply left for "intelligent" people to deal with in silence does little to bring attention to a vexing problem that effects us all. And don't raise the red herring that anything being said here will hurt future civil or criminal procedures. The indignation expressed in this forumn is honest and visceral, and that means something by way of tort. Innocent people are getting attacked, and that is more than upsetting. It is hurtful and wrong. Perhaps WordPress has become complacent with hacking, but let us hope not.

  14. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    For this issue to be simply left for "intelligent" people to deal with in silence does little to bring attention to a vexing problem that effects us all.

    I think you may misunderstand. This issue that you have experienced - spam - is indeed a public one. You will find a lot of great information and discussion on how to combat it here.

    However; pursuing an issue relative to prosecution and or threatening legal action or "other" implied consequences, should never be done on a public forum. [just my opinion... i should hope it would be your lawyers opinion as well]

    Just for the sake of conversation, it appears - from what you described - that you have experienced nothing more than comment spam that was intended to target web site admins who present a more "innocent" or gullible nature than those who would simply delete it and dismiss it. It's designed to find those who will panic, and send the spammer (someone) money. While that alone is frustrating and intrusive, I don't think you can qualify that as being "hacked".

    Who do you contact when you get phishing emails in your inbox? Do you just delete them because you recognize them for what they are? Or is there someone you can contact to follow up on it with an arrest? While your enthusiasm is certainly admirable, when you look at it in that perspective, is it still practical?

    Perhaps WordPress has become complacent with hacking, but let us hope not.

    Not at all. There is a ton of evidence to the contrary in fact, but you don't appear to have been hacked, so that might not really be worth citing at this point. It looks like you just received comment spam. What you've experienced is not limited to WordPress. Every web platform with an open commenting system can/will/does experience the same (or similar) thing at some point. I don't know if any of that makes you feel any better about the comment spam or not, but it's sort of an everyday thing, everywhere (not just wordpress).

    p.s. I love tarts! :-)

  15. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    My website was hardened because it had been compromised in the past. The issue here is not just hacking per se, but the threat thereof--as in blackmail. If you construe that backmail as merely spam, something to ignored--that view will speak for itself. I needn't say anything more, accept that we WordPress users appear to be on our own. But thank you for the time... It has been illuminating.

  16. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    It has been illuminating.

    It sure has, and I thank you for your patience in allowing me to contribute to the thought process.

    You know, this might be a great opportunity for you. Certainly you have some very passionate feelings on the topic... It might be a great time to do a little more research and fact checking, outline your ideas, and then maybe publish an in-depth piece on your site. It certainly is great material to generate some feedback with.

    Take care!

    [edit] ...just a footnote; your readme.html can still be viewed (sans css). The authentication dialog doesn't stop the file from being viewed. It's ok to go ahead and delete that file if you like.

  17. MickeyRoush
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    What's really sad is that this gives unethical and/or immature people ideas. What if a competitor or someone who is out for revenge wants to attack your site(s)? Well if you have a PayPal link on your site they could easily spread malicious lies throughout the world placing your site link and PayPal info as the supposed author. Really sad.

  18. softtouch_ph
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    The spam sent out has NOTHING to do with Scraped Media, and the in the spam mentioned email and paypal addresses.

    Scraped Media Pty Ltd and its paypal addresses paypal@5t8.com and support@scrapebox.com are in no way related to the spam.

    The spammer is trying to bring the company in a bad light by posting this spam everywhere, using the companies paypal email.
    People will start complaining to paypal, but shooting to the wrong target... and the spammer exactly get what he wanted. Due to the fact the spammer ask people to pay to Scraped Media's paypal, he is not after money, but want to cause problems for Scraped Media (maybe he was not happy with a product he purchased, who knows).

    Before you ask how I know that, I am working together with Scraped Media, and this spammer is definitely a headache.

    Again, I can GUARANTEE you that Scraped Media and the mentioned email addresses has NOTHING to do with this.

    If you have any details about this spammer, be it his used username, his IP, or even email, please contact Scraped Media via support@scrapebox.com.

  19. laughmaster
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Just putting in my 2 cents worth. I too found this comment on my site tonight. I immediately forwarded the message to paypal. Well maybe not immediately, I first made fun of them on my facebook page. lol Needless to say, I am not worried about this. Are people really this stupid? I mean it does not even say how much you need to "donate" in order to keep your site. I had the thought of sending the person $0.01. But decided to keep my money. I need to go back and view the comment again but doesn't it have 2 different e-mail addresses too?

  20. ghe101library
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    The destructive behavior of the person sending this crap is typical of cyber cowards. They cover their asses while causing discord, tucked safely away with their acne ointment, bloated sense of self, multiple routers, and mastabatory tools. The goal is to cause harm by sewing discord, and some of them revel in angst such as what I'm expressing. I know that even posting here feeds their sickness, their bloated egos, their need to harm.

    There is another side, however, that of exposing them. If I were Scrapped Media, I'd be furious about these blackmail letters. SM is cyber literate, so I suspect they may know who began this nonsense. Maybe it was a former employee or some competitor or a kid who has too little to do. I have to say, this is the first time I got an extortion hack threat, but as for bomb threats, death threats, etc., that's all part of the cyber coward game. Under recent laws, some of this borders on terroristic threats, but many of those laws are hard to agree with.

    When I was a young man, I was a lot of very bad things, but my perfidy was done in person, up close and personal so to speak. By my early 20s I left that life behind. Now we have a whole range of thumb twiddling geeks who revel in being "bad" under wraps. They are bullies by nature, but their only prowess is putting knowledge to evil ends. Most of them would not want anything to do with a physical confrontation, even with a ten-year-old Girl Scout.

    The Internet is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it allows me to share hundreds of articles and books with anyone who wants them--and to do it for no cost. It also allowed me to run a retail business for eight years that at one time generated $1,000 per day in gross sales. But it has created a whole class of people who seek great pleasure in causing harm.

    The only thing cure for this ill is to expose the people who are doing it to public light--the thing they most fear. 99.99% of us don't have a clue about how to do that, but perhaps someone will in this case. I honestly would love to show up at this guy's door...just to put a face to one of his many victims. If I could get the guy busted, that would be my idea of justice. Well, we can always hope.

  21. tgrblogger
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    One thing I agree with ghe101library on is that this is not just spam as it was phrased as a threat do do actual harm to a website. Much like the protection racket where thugs go into a physical store or place of business and threaten violence if not paid, this is an attempt to extort. Whether their actual intent was to simply mar the image of another or not is of little consequence. The act itself is a crime because of the nature of the threat.

    At this point, a lawful society such as ours deems that how punishment is meted out is a question for the authorities, not of the individual. Report it to the appropriate authorities if you feel that the threat is real and imminent. Then go on about your business.

    Here's an article outlining ways to report incidents to the proper authorities:
    http://www.infohq.com/Computer/Spam/complain-illegal-email-spam-hackers.htm

  22. The point is, I want to know the physical location of this person--which I understand from my FBI and police friends is indeed possible.

    Call the police then. Yes, it's possible, but it's not a WORDPRESS issue.

    This happens to everyone.

    Closing.

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