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"Avatar" on WP forum (23 posts)

  1. Roy
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Recently I noticed that "avatars" have been added to user profiles on this forum. Some people made something of it, others don't. The latter isn't so strange, because I can't find where to change it.......?

  2. whooami
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    gravatar.com

    look at the source of the images?

  3. Roy
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I know how to place an "avatar", but my "edit profile" doesn't have the option!

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  4. whooami
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    what did i type? was that not in english? wtf?

    gravatar.com

    LOOK at the source of the images.

  5. Jeremy Clark
    Moderator
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Go here and signup for the gravatar service.
    http://en.gravatar.com/site/signup

  6. Roy
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Ah, just never guessed that I had to sign up somewhere before I could edit my profile here. Usually there's just an upload or deeplink option to add an image to a profile. (I guessed Gravatar was just some kind of Imageshack or something.)

  7. whooami
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    you wont ever get an option in your profile. Thats not how gravatars work.

  8. Jeremy Clark
    Moderator
    Posted 6 years ago #

    That's the magic of the gravatar you don't have to setup anything except at gravatar and anything that support gravatar automagically grabs the avatar. The new version of wordpress also supports this.

  9. harknell
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Personally I wonder about the idea of using someone else's server as the host for something that shows up on your site. (and even ads are/have been an issue for this) What's to stop the .jpg exploit that hit CNN.com from awhile ago from causing an infected image displaying on your site? Also, what happens if their site/server is down?

    Maybe I'm a control freak, but not allowing any other way of displaying an avatar but having people sign up for some other site seems a bit strange.....

  10. Roy
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Exactly my idea... I already think that WP 'talks a bit too much' with all kinds of servers. It knows when I have an outdated plugin, it shows news from another server, etc. I'd like to have things more in my own hands.

    Besides, I already have too many accounts on too many places, so I don't think that I will get a Gravatar account just to have a nice profile on this forum.

  11. Samgreen
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Hmm. I don't need 'yet another login' somewhere. So I'll just leave it as a blank avatar on my profile.

  12. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Gravatars are not just for "this forum". They are global, anybody can display gravatars. That's the whole idea, to have one avatar everywhere, linked to your individual email address.

    WordPress 2.5 has built in support for gravatars. Every WordPress blog can display them. Several other blog and CMS systems can also use them.

    I setup my gravatar ages ago. When this forum just started supporting them recently, it showed up. Handy, and I didn't have to change a thing.

  13. Samgreen
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Sorry, but I still see no reason to use gravatar avatars.

  14. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Well, then don't. Nobody's forcing you to. :)

  15. Pinoy.ca
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Three more things against gravatars on your own blog:

    1. Gravatar.com is another DNS lookup for the browser.
    2. Gravatar.com doesn't serve the images with a far Expires header or with Keep-Alive. Browsers won't cache it.
    3. Those without gravatars get the default image, yes, but these default images AREN'T the same image! Each default image requires a separate HTTP connection and an uncached HTTP request.

    So adding this slows down your web pages, considerably... especially if you don't put width and height attributes on the gravatar img tag.

  16. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    1. One DNS lookup doesn't take that long.
    2. It sends an Expires header of half an hour in the future. The expire was done for a reason, I suspect. If somebody changes their avatar, half an hour almost seems too long to wait for it to take effect. And really, if their server can cope with it, then I don't see the problem. You're right about the Keep-Alive, but it does seem to use persistent connections anyway with a HTTP 1.1 client, regardless.
    3. Adding lots of images to your own site will always slow it down, but if you use some kind of pagination for comments or otherwise limit the number of comments, then it's not a particularly big deal.

  17. Eternal Sky Chaz
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I am not that much of a tech head to have ever been aware of the Expires header, Keep-Alive, etc ...

    But I do know that the simplest and fastest way to display avatars is from my own server. Because WP is free, and incredibly popular, use of gravatars out here is simply to keep WP's overhead costs down. It just makes profile editing more complicated than it needs to be because you have to set up another account and there are no instructions on our WP Profile edit pages to direct users to gravatar.com to post a "universal" avatar.

    So, in terms of our own blogs, on our own sites, is there a way to simply an avatar image, from our own server or external url, without using gravatars?

  18. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Because WP is free, and incredibly popular, use of gravatars out here is simply to keep WP's overhead costs down.

    Automattic (aka the WordPress group) bought and now owns gravatar.com. It's hosted on the same systems as wordpress.com is.

    The whole thing is part of their push to make WordPress more of a social web type of thing. The integration is a bit early on, which is why there's no nice links and such yet. One step at a time.

    WordPress.com profiles, BTW, are linked in with the gravatar systems. If you make yourself a profile picture on wordpress.com, then you just created yourself a gravatar as well.

  19. benchun
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Suggestion: in the WordPress Support forum profile editor (where people seem to have encountered this question), it probably makes sense to have a link to gravatar.com for people without gravatars. Then instead of clicking around and wondering if they are too dense to find the right link, they just get directed to the place where the deed is done. Yeah?

  20. rlparker
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    While I agree with many of the reasons some have listed here for not liking the gravatar approach, the main objection I have to using a gravatar is that I don't want the *same* avatar everywhere I post.

    There are places where I might like a "real world" picture of myself, others where I prefer like a caricature, and still others where I want none displayed at all - gravatar removes that flexibiity.

    I also don't like the idea that a site can grab a gravatar that it finds for me and place it on their site when I might have preferred on no to be posted. :/

    --rlparker

  21. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    3. Those without gravatars get the default image, yes, but these default images AREN'T the same image! Each default image requires a separate HTTP connection and an uncached HTTP request.

    Just wanted to add that this is not the case anymore. Gravatars that don't exist now redirect to the default gravatar, which is here: http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536

    There are places where I might like a "real world" picture of myself, others where I prefer like a caricature, and still others where I want none displayed at all - gravatar removes that flexibiity.

    Use different email addresses for each place. Register each one to your gravatar account, and give them different images. Gravatar can handle multiple emails for one account just fine.

  22. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I've gotten one of these gravatars, but i don't know how to use them. (dont worry, I feel stupid for it). I just left a comment on a blog and I noticed that it's still the default picture. How do I activate it?

  23. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 5 years ago #

    HAHA... never mind. it must have been the blog or something. I see my picture wright there. I wonder why it wasn't working on the wordpress blog i was at.

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