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[resolved] Argentina attack (12 posts)

  1. Bithead
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I run Bitsblog.florack.us.
    I recently came under attack by person or persons unknown. Apparently there's a security hole either at my site are within word press, and I can't figure which.

    the first sign I had that there had been an attack, was that I could not get into my editor. On looking at the HTML output, I found four lines all the same at the header of the HTML.

    (IFRAME src="http://usuarios.arnet.com.ar/alvarezluque/morgan.html" width="0" height="0" frameborder="0"></iframe)

    Obviously, I have edited the lines so it doesn't cause any problems here. The Url being called out executes some sort of JavaScript which I believe to call some activex program, but I have not been able to confirm this.

    I was unable to find any reference to this address in any of my PHP files. I must assume that the hacker has somehow gotten into my database.

    This first happened at the middle of last week. After a night of fooling around trying to locate the problem I threw up my hands and asked the ISP to wipe and restore from tape, from a week previous. Once they did that, I've been ran all the latest WordPress upgrades.

    Whatever this attack is, it apparently is not solved by the wordpress upgrade. I say this, because I was attacked again last evening. My site is currently down.

    In doing a cross reference via Google, I find that there are a few people who are running into the same problem, mostly in Germany and Portugal. However, they seem as mystified as I am, passed coming up with the idea that there is some kind of vulnerability within the web servers implementation of PHP.

    I am told, that the web server I'm on is Windows IIS, though the version I don't know.

    my website is currently down, and I'm in need of some help, not only to get it running again, but to close the security hole.

    Any ideas, anyone?

  2. Joni
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I hate to say this but since this is definitely not a WordPress issue don't expect a lot of help. Not because people don't care or are unsympathetic to your problem, but because this forum should be as much about WordPress issues -- and nothing else -- as possible.

    I suggest you talk to your ISP; believe me, if there is a vulnerability, it could affect other clients of theirs, especially if you are on a shared server. It is in their best interests to solve your problem.

    Other than that, try googling some more for an answer.

    Best of luck to you.

  3. Bithead
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    OK,gang, here's the lowdown.

    Last week, we had an attack on the core SQL database that runs BitsBlog. The most obvious result of that attack was four instances of an HTML FRAME callout showing up showing up on the header of every page on the site.

    ( http://usuarios.arnet.com.ar/alvarezluque/morgan.html" width="0" height="0" frameborder="0"></iframe)

    (Take my advice, don't go there... in investigating the site and doing soem cross checking, I find there's a bunch of real weirdos, there.)

    Once I went through all my PHP coding by hand, I realized that the callouts were in none of them, and that the code must have been injected into the database. A database restore from my end was out of the question for several technical reasons. The backup design assumed that the site would be available. Dumb, yeah, but there it is.

    So, I got on with the ISP, and had them do an full wipe and restore.

    Once that was done, and assuming that because my site was a little behind the WordPress current release, I then changed all my heavy passwords, and upgraded to the most recent version.

    Two days later, we're back in the soup. Logically, whatever the security hole was, was not directly a part of WordPress, but WHAT WAS IT? Simply having the ISP go to tape again, still left the Blog vulnerable.

    At this point, I started asking around. I went to the WordPress support forums. Let's just say they're Linux snobs, and leave it at that, shall we? I mean, I like Linux, too, but telling me my biggest problem is the thing is an ISS server isn't helping. I was dealing with applications issues when we went the Windows Server route anyway.

    Still, they had a point that the Windows environment isn't nearly as secure, so some rather pointed questions were fired at the ISP.

    UNlike the folks at WordPress who couldn't get past the word "Windows", the IX folks actually investigated, and found that there was indeed a problem with the WordPress installation:

    We've restored your site from our backup. Also after investigation of our system administration team, we've found that your WordPress installation is vulnerable to remote file inclusion attacks. Please refer to following link for more information regarding that security hole:

    http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/bugtraq/2007-05/msg00010.html

    Please upgrade/fix your software ( wordTube plugin ) as soon as possible, and update this ticket once it's done.

    Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us 24x7.

    Well, what do you know. An ISP actually willing to help, when the pressure is on. I've done a rebuild to the most recent versons, changed out my passwords again, and blown away the YouTube plughin... it wasn't working well anyway.

    Kudos to IX Web hosting, for a job well done.

    And a raspberry or three to the WordPress Support forums, and to the denizens of their IRC room, who were even worse. ...

    (Well, OK, the guy in the forum was apparently trying to warn me of the bias, but the fact remains the help forum was anything but... even there, he decided it wasn't a wordpress issue.)

  4. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 6 years ago #

    That link you posted isn't pointing out a WordPress vulnerability, it's pointing out a vulnerability in some plugin you're using. Upgrade that plugin or don't use it.

    Also, these *are* the WordPress support forums, and I don't see anybody here complaining about use of a Windows server. What forums are you talking about?

  5. Bithead
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Seems to me that area of responsibility is a little on the gray side, given that I downloaded the plug in by linking through the the word press website.

    But more... It seems also to me, that it would be wise to be a one stop for all things WordPress. Your success rate could only improve with that kind of PR effort.

    I came in here looking for WordPress expertise. Where the beep ELSE would I go to get such questions asked? The idea that it might have been the plugin never occurred to me... I admit after a few hours of my site down, I was a bit frazzled. But what I got while in that condition, instead of expertise from people who know the package, (and presumably what people tend to add to it for the most part ) what I got was Linux snobbery, and 'it's not our problem." Nobody even bothered asking what wordpress plugins I was running, except the ISP. Once the idea that an IIS server was involved that's all they wanted to know. Nose in the air, fade to black. Didn't even BOTHER to ask any other questions, and weren't interested in the symptoms. Not exactly good PR

    And no, my anger isn't being directed at jonimueller, but rather at the IRC channel.

    Enough.
    Wordpress is a fine product. Just wish the support was a little less tone deaf.

    I'm not exactly a babe in the woods on this stuff; I've been in end user support for many years. The ones who tend to do well, are the ones who don't draw arbitrary support lines.

  6. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    ... Can I echo Otto42's question?

    Also, these *are* the WordPress support forums, and I don't see anybody here complaining about use of a Windows server. What forums are you talking about?

    Which topic in these forums was side-tracked by the IIS server factor? I can't find it -- and I'd like to see it.

  7. Root
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    And AFAIK there is not and has never been any linux snobbery in these forums. Recognising, acknowledging, and using a program that was built for the purpose is not snobbery. Historically IIS has caused endless grief to WP users.

  8. Bithead
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Handy and Root: Look again:

    And no, my anger isn't being directed at jonimueller, but rather at the IRC channel.

    Questions?

  9. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Nah, but it clarifies this:

    And a raspberry or three to the WordPress Support forums, and to the denizens of their IRC room, who were even worse. ...

    As volunteers, raspberries are a real drag.

  10. Joni
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    And @the OP, I'm not a GUY {{looks down}} .. nope. Still a GIRL.

    And .. I reiterate, it is the problem of a WP PLUGIN. And to answer the question where to go for help? First, to the plugin author. Some plugin devs are better about support than others. Some of them (David Chait of ChaitGear comes immediately to mind) go above and beyond any reasonable call of duty; others throw the plugin out there and leave it for its users to sort things out.

    I commend you for returning to this forum to report the solution. Sounds to me like that post was a cut and paste job, meant for more than just this forum. In any event, I wish more people would post solutions to problems like you did.

    Joni

  11. Bithead
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    And @the OP, I'm not a GUY {{looks down}} .. nope. Still a GIRL.

    Well, you know how it is when you get married....

    And .. I reiterate, it is the problem of a WP PLUGIN. And to answer the question where to go for help? First, to the plugin author. Some plugin devs are better about support than others.

    Maybe, but look again:
    I had no idea the problem was a plugin.

    I commend you for returning to this forum to report the solution.

    Of course!
    If I complain about others not passing along what information they have, what kind of credibility with the complaint have if I didn't do better than what I was complaining about?

    Sounds to me like that post was a cut and paste job, meant for more than just this forum.

    Correct; I put the info on my blog, as well.

  12. Jingan Eugen
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

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