Posted 4 months ago #
I'm planing to migrate from Apache to NGINX.
Q1> How to migrate a WP Multisite from Apache to NGINX?
Reasons: Faster, Lighter
Drawbacks: No CGI, Subversion, WebDAV, .htaccess support
#The CGI problem can be fixed by FastCGI
#Subversion is not that important
#WebDAV is kinda important but we can live without it.
Q2> BUT what about .htaccess???
Q3> What kinda problems i can face?
Posted 4 months ago #
There are quite a few guides out there that will give you the configs you need for nginx, so you will not longer use .htaccess.
I am currently going through this process myself and having a hard time with the configs even though there are tutorials.
Posted 4 months ago #
The lead dev, Nacin, has already written a lengthy reply for a similar question about a week back.
For your #Q2: htaccess files can be handled by try_files directive or rewrite directive. There is no automatic way to create these (like .htaccess file).
For your #Q3: I have not got any issue when setting up the test environment of WP Multisite. I have no production server experience, yet! That's why I linked Nacin's reply.
Update: For #Q1: You may follow the instructions found in http://wiki.nginx.org/WordPress. Again, I'm speaking only from my test environment knowledge. Thanks.
Posted 4 months ago #
Is there any way to test it locally? I mean is there any stack like WAMP?
Posted 4 months ago #
I had success installing Nginx in Linux locally. Not sure, if there is any stack that support Nginx in Windows.
Posted 4 months ago #
Missing "Ipstenu" and her experience in this area :( But we have some experienced users like "Pothi Kalimuthu" :)
I'm looking for a Windows solution.
Interestingly .htaccess can be used in Engine-X if we configure it as a front-end proxy to Apache.
Anyone is using it along with Apache?
I'm using Apache and know sod all about nginx, which is why I had nothing to say. (When I don't reply, it's because (1) I don't know or (2) I can't be nice ;) )
Posted 4 months ago #
I know both of these, that you are using Apache and having a quiet little experience with engine-x at this time. What I meant was, I'm missing your guidance in this topic as you are not not that familiar with it. And ya I know your rules btw :)
Don't do Windows either :)
To be somewhat topical, when you asked 'What issues will I face' the biggest is support.
By far, most of us use apache on linux for WordPress, and even more use it for Multisite. Totally made up numbers (gut feelings here): 70% of WP users use Linux, and 90% of Mutlisite users use linux.
I do know, personally, 2 people who use nginx, one of them being wpmuguru.
Posted 4 months ago #
It seems another misinterpretation :)
I'm using Debian on my server. When i said "I'm looking for a Windows solution.", I was talking about My "Local System" to test NGINX on Windows . :)
Obviously I'm a member of LAMP family, but want to join LEMP now :P
And ya I agree, support is the biggest issue!
That's why I'm looking for a proxy solution, like configuring it as a front-end proxy to Apache. So that unsupported requests will be handled by Apache thus we can use .htaccess and minimize all those migration issues.
Would it be a good idea?
Double I don't do windows then :) I do use a Windows PC when I must, but my localhost is all MAMP.
I'm gonna ask what Nacin would (he's on vacation).
Why do you think you need nginx?
Posted 4 months ago #
From my understanding,
NGINX is more beneficial under requests based heavy load instead of process based load. OR simply, it's beneficial for those who are running high-traffic(having/expecting) websites on VPS.
Because Apache is heavier, slower and it consumes more CPU usage.
Where NGINX:
# improves "First Byte Time".
# "Scalability" as it's asynchronous (event-based) server.
# Engine-X helps to save resources (RAM, CPU) and improves overall performance.
It seems Nginx can handle much more traffic as compared to Apache on same H/W configuration. :)
Yeah, but ... are you having that load where you need it?
I haven't pegged out apache yet, and I can take 40k hits in n hour without a glitch. On a VPS.
Posted 4 months ago #
I'm using 512mb RAM & my VPS restarts at least 1 to 2 times a day due to heavy load. I optimized my site in order to reduce the processing based load AMSP.
Ya, a little more memory could have fixed this problem easily, But I'm expecting more high traffic in near future.
And last reason, but not the least, my nickname describes myself :)
Okay. What server side caching do you have?
I have an 800mb RAM box, though it's on a cloud/burst setup right now, so it's usage is weird. When I was on traditional VPS, though, I had 512mb and never used more than 60% on a big day. THAT SAID.
httpd.conf is generally NOT optomized for WordPress. Your min and max servers, plus child settings, often need to be heavily tweaked. On top of that, I found that installing some sort of caching for PHP was critical. I use APC (it's built into PHP) and it took my average load from 75% memory to 40%. Also I turned off Clam and ClamAV (which have never actually helped me), as well as things like Entropy chat and other Cpanel/WHM features that cause bloat.
You can also use nginx as a front end caching proxy server to apache. Now THAT is fun. :)
Posted 4 months ago #
I'm using APC too :)
What about Varnish? you have any idea?
@Andrea
That's what I've mentioned on my 3rd comment.
Which one is better ?
Varnish + Apache or NGINX + Apache or NGINX + PHP-FPM + APC ?
What is the basic difference between these two "Using NGINX as a front end proxy to Apache" & "100% NGINX"?
I understand that configuring it as a front-end proxy to Apache so that unsupported requests will be handled by Apache thus we can use mod_rewrite/.htaccess and minimize all those migration issues..
But other than that? Is there any kinda advantage of using 100% NGINX?
Posted 4 months ago #
Some food for thought.
The latest video from WordPress.tv is a nice one. Here TJ Stein talks about Varnish + Nginx + PHP-FPM + APC.
TJ Stein – Developing Fast & Scalable Severs for WordPress
The slides are not visible in the video. So, here is the link to the slides.
Posted 4 months ago #
@Pothi Kalimuthu
Truly Awesome :)
Is there any kinda advantage of using 100% NGINX?
Do you only have one server? Use Nginx.
Posted 4 months ago #
Do you only have one server? Use Nginx.
Can you please elaborate? I'm not getting your point/logic.
If you only have one server for your site and not multiple servers, you are better off using just Nginx instead of Apache+all the other options.
You asked above:
Which one is better ?
Varnish + Apache or NGINX + Apache or NGINX + PHP-FPM + APC ?What is the basic difference between these two "Using NGINX as a front end proxy to Apache" & "100% NGINX"?
How many servers you have is the difference.
Posted 4 months ago #
And If I have multiple servers? I mean I'm planing for A Multi Servers Architecture. What would you suggest then?
#Is there any good reference for WP-NGINX Configuration?
And that's where we reach the extent of my server knowledge. :D
At this time, there's no real decent WP-nginx resource. just some blog posts here & there, and mostly for one box.
Anything bigger than that is vague, or basically a "here's how we did it" guideline.
Good stuff here tho:
http://wordpress.tv/2011/08/20/mark-jaquith-scaling-servers-and-deploys-oh-my/
Posted 4 months ago #
Thanks :)
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